U.S. Space Force to Fight Extraterrestrial Wars

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  1. kellyb

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    This is from 2012:
    Tomgram: Alfred McCoy, Super Weapons and Global Dominion | TomDispatch

    "It’s 2025 and an American “triple canopy” of advanced surveillance and armed drones fills the heavens from the lower- to the exo-atmosphere. A wonder of the modern age, it can deliver its weaponry anywhere on the planet with staggering speed, knock out an enemy’s satellite communications system, or follow individuals biometrically for great distances. Along with the country’s advanced cyberwar capacity, it’s also the most sophisticated militarized information system ever created and an insurance policy for U.S. global dominion deep into the twenty-first century. It’s the future as the Pentagon imagines it; it’s under development; and Americans know nothing about it."​
     
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  2. pigfarmer

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    You know, I never thought of that. I suppose one day there will be one - unless we do something stupid and cede everything to the cockroaches.
     
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  3. nivek

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    That is something I could see as quite possible given the right conditions...

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  4. CasualBystander

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    All this is fine and good, but destroy a few more satellites in LEO and LEO will become a field of shrapnel that will kill all LEO satellites and space capabilities.

    The Indian ASAT test is a good example.

    Kill a few more and it hits critical mass as they lose control of damaged satellites and the dead satellites start bouncing into each other.

    For example, an Iridium satellite was killed by a dead Russian satellite.

    Since the US has the most satellite capability for China or Russia to make space unusable is a good move in a conflict.

    Would make future space travel dangerous.
     
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  5. Kchoo

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    The thought of mass satellite destruction makes me cringe.
    It is a real and likely threat, I think.
    Yikes!
     
  6. CasualBystander

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    Where Do Satellites Get Their Power From?

    Avoiding collisions in space

    In some cases, satellites have to be moved to avoid collision with space debris. Space debris includes everything from screws and bolts to larger chunks of spacecraft. This risk is highest for the Metop satellites which are operating in Low Earth Orbit at around 820km where most of the debris is.


    It is bad enough now that satellites are shortening their lifespans using fuel to avoid debris.

    The ISS has to move once in a while - but it is so low that atmospheric drag has mostly cleared its orbit, which also means it has to burn fuel to maintain its orbit.

    If the ISS was moved to a high parking orbit it would get pinged by debris occasionally.

    Satellites like Iridium are in the heart of the debris belt (800 km).

    GPS satellites are halfway to a Geosynchronous orbit and wouldn't see a lot of action.
     
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    Space Force to cost billions more than expected, CBO warns
     
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  11. nivek

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  15. Gambeir

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    It's post like this that make this site. Just the fact that it's Ted Cruz talking about space pirates speaks volumes. See the powers that be are aware that there is a grass roots effort to break the crime cabals monopoly on freedom. So what good ole boy Teddy is doing is trying to lay the groundwork for why we need to regulate who get to go where in space. Don't ya see it's all about maintaining absolute control over you and your freedom, it's even coming down to where these insane lunatics are now planning how to prevent you from escaping their authority even in outer space.

    Space force to fight aliens? How about watch towers to prevent escape instead? Seriously they can invent anything and the average idiot just gulps it down. So ya see, even if we do succeed in creating our own antigravity ships, by the time we get there these criminals will have created a barbed wire fence with machine guns around the planet to prevent escape, and why you ask, well because you're a pirate obviously.

    See they know by way of monitoring the internet that antigravity is a grass roots effort planetary wide. They know that it's a matter of time before it becomes real, and they know it because they have had it for over 80 years. They probably have already mapped the Milkyway Galaxy. That's how great their crimes truly are. Just imagine what kind of monsters must be in control if we are all being kept here locked up on this mud ball in space while they travel among the stars already.
     
  16. pigfarmer

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    Barbary Coast Space Pirates maybe. Thomas Jefferson would get it. Once you get past the snickering there is a point to consider.

    Earth orbit is the military high ground and holding valuable assets under threat of seizure or destruction is an old game. Privatization makes access to those assets more probable. Exactly what a Space Force could do and how is an open question. Probably not Moonraker but when you consider the environments that specially trained operators currently function in to perform all sorts of clandestine missions it really isn't that much of a stretch.

    Admittedly this sounds odd but if there were an incident of some kind then guaranteed the world would turn to the US military and wonder what they are going to do about it because it would be naturally assumed they can.
     
  17. nivek

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    How many vessel do we have?...

    US Space Command will launch this month, ahead of Trump's Space Force

    WASHINGTON – The Space Force is getting closer to launch. Speaking at Tuesday's meeting of the National Space Council, Vice President Mike Pence and Pentagon officials announced that a key step in creating the newest branch of the military would happen next week.

    The U.S. Space Command officially starts Aug. 29, serving as the launching pad for the Space Force, they said. Air Force Gen. John Raymond has been tapped and confirmed by the Senate as its first leader.

    "The United States Space Force will ensure that our nation is prepared to defend our people, defend our interests, and to defend our values in the vast expanse of space and here on Earth with the technologies that will support our common defense for the vast reaches of outer space," Pence said.

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  18. nivek

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    So we are officially launching a Space Force and at the same time our Senators are being given classified briefings on UFOs...Seems legit...:huh8:

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    The Space Force is officially the sixth military branch. Here’s what that means.

    Air Force officials on Friday told reporters that people are clamoring for information on how to join the military’s latest branch. The short answer is, they’re going to have to wait a while.

    President Trump officially signed the Space Force into law Friday, but for now, all that means is everyone at Air Force Space Command will now be assigned to Space Force. Over the next 18 months, officials said, the finer details of manning and training the new branch will be hammered out and set in motion.

    “It’s going to be really important that we get this right. A uniform, a patch, a song ― it gets to the culture of a service,” said Air Force Gen. Jay Raymond, the head of Air Force Space Command and U.S. Space Command, who will lead Space Force until a chief of space operations is confirmed by the Senate. “There’s a lot of work going on toward that end. It’s going to take a long time to get to that point, but that’s not something we’re going to roll out on day one.”

    For now, the 16,000 active-duty airmen and civilians who work at Air Force Space Command will be assigned to the Space Force, but nothing else will change. Uniforms, a rank structure, training and education are all to be determined, and for the foreseeable future, Space Force will continue to be manned by airmen, wearing, Air Force uniforms, subject to that service’s fitness program, personnel system and so on.

    Meanwhile, U.S Space Command, which stood up in August, will continue to exist as a combatant command, similar to Cyber Command, Special Operations Command and others.

    “There have been Army and Navy, especially, participants in the planning and the development of the staged roll-out that we have underway,” Air Force Secretary Barbara Barrett said.

    Barrett will be the Space Force’s service secretary, as the service will be nestled within the Air Force Department, the same way the Marine Corps is part of the Navy Department.

    Eventually, she said, those services’ space commands will be rolled into Space Force, and those personnel will transfer branches. In the more immediate future, officials said, soldiers and sailors could be detailed to Space Force.

    About 2,000 of the initial personnel are specifically Air Force space professionals, who spend their careers in those billets, will be transferred to the Space Force when it gets its own personnel system up and running. There are several thousand more airmen who support Air Force Space Command, including contracting personnel, engineers, security forces and others. They will move on to other Air Force billets once their tours are over.

    There is also a likelihood that Air Force bases that have dealt mainly with space operations could see a re-0brand ― think Vandenberg Space Force Base, California, or Shriever Space Force Base, Colorado.

    Officials drew some comparisons to the birth of the Air Force, which came out of the Army Air Corps, and the process it took to grow a new service ― though at the time, the Army Air Corps was a fairly self-contained organization, with a shared history and unique cultural identity to pass on.

    “There’s not a really good playbook on, how do you stand up a separate service?” Raymond said. “We haven’t really done this since 1947.”

    Officials did not answer definitively when or whether Space Force would be standing up support commands, to include logistics, security forces, medical, legal, financial or other specialties.

    “There’s still a lot of things that we don’t know,” Raymond said.

    As the saying goes, the Army equips soldiers and the Navy mans equipment. The Space Force will be more like the latter, Barrett said, as technology will be its main mission, and its manning needs will be rather lean. She offered the Global Positioning System as an example of a mission that is vital and far-reaching in scope, but has a relatively small personnel footprint.

    “The whole GPS system that the world depends upon so significantly — 40 operators run that system,” she said.

    Without sharing details of the plan, a senior Air Force official said on background, because he was not authorized to speak on the record, there will be 30, 60 and 90-day benchmarks to meet. Where it took three years to stand up the Air Force, he said, the Space Force hopes to be off and running in 18 months or less. That includes, he added, sending a four-star officer to represent the service on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
     
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  20. wwkirk

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    From Wikipedia:

    Functions and duties

    Functions

    As described in the United States Space Force Act, the U.S. Space Force will be organized, trained, and equipped to:


    1. "Provide freedom of operation for the United States in, from, and to space"
    2. "Provide prompt and sustained space operations"

    Duties
    The duties of the Space Force include to:


    1. "Protect the interests of the United States in space"
    2. "Deter aggression in, from, and to space"
    3. "Conduct space operations"

    Role and mission
    The U.S. Space Force's mission is to "organize, train, and equip space forces in order to protect U.S. and allied interests in space and to provide space capabilities to the joint force. The Space Force's responsibilities include developing military space professionals, acquiring military space systems, maturing the military doctrine for space power, and organizing space forces to present to the Combatant Commands."

    Theoretically, the Space Force would be America's first line of defense for battling hostile extraterrestrials. Though, obviously, no government has admitted or confirmed that such exist.
     
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