UFO Hoaxes

Discussion in 'UFOs & Sightings' started by Dejan Corovic, Jul 26, 2018.

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  1. Dejan Corovic

    Dejan Corovic Noble

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    Yeah, lets complete the trilogy. We got UFO Images thread and UFO Videos. Lets sum up what in your opinion are hoaxes and please explain why you think so.

    This videos shows how the famous UFO abductions researcher Budd Hopkins was duped by unnamed woman. Hoax was revealed when she sent him an envelope, allegedly from another witness, but the writing on the envelope had exactly the same handwriting as the initial witness. Practically, it came out that both witnesses had the same handwriting style, which is impossible.

    One needs to watch the whole video.



    Poor Budd Hopkins, he invested so much into that story, wrote a book, gave a ton of lectures etc.
     
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  2. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Are you referring to the Linda Cortile UFO Abduction Case?...

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  3. Dejan Corovic

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    I guess so
     
  4. Standingstones

    Standingstones Celestial

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    Budd Hopkins has been dead for almost 7 years now. He doesn't need to worry much about it.
     
  5. Castle-Yankee54

    Castle-Yankee54 Celestial

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    For me it was Dr. Jonathon Reed and then Rendlesham Forest that top the list.
     
  6. Gambeir

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    Yea well I never thought much of alien abductions myself either, but then I decided that because of other areas I was researching I'd spend some time looking in to and researching some of this, I'm glad I did and now I remain questioning but on the whole I cannot deny that what these people have reported is factual. For that reason It's almost certain that this is a counter intel program. This is probably only the start of a program that was undertaken long ago designed to now destroy the other reported truth and so there's a reason for this. People don't do these kinds of things for no reason ya know. It was set up as a safety for that day when people began to take this seriously and for that day when people began asking questions and demanding answers. So this counter intel program was created way back. It's a sleeper program.



    One individual now claiming she falsified everything does not then mean everyone else who claims to have been abducted is also a lunatic A~hole fraud. Rather it strongly supports the notion that she probably is a fraud, one who was supplied with this information that was capable of deceiving Hopkins, and by people who know the truth, and was coerced one way or another to play this sick game by these people: I will be praying she is run over by a Kenworth, and all this really proves is that we now have enough panic going on over secrets revealed that there is a concern about this corruption being exposed and somehow linked back to the rulers who either know or are involved in it as some kind of for profit enterprise. All I see is that a major counter intelligence program has started.

    Hopkins is only one researcher. His long time friend and associate Dr. David Jacobs has a long history working with abductees. He is extremely selective referring most people to other researchers.
    David M. Jacobs - Wikipedia

    The Truth Perspective: Interview with David M. Jacobs: "Walking Among Us: The Alien Plan to Control Humanity" -- Sott.net
    Highly recommended. This interview is from 2016 but great.
    Go to this link for a great and humorous interview with Dr. David Jacobs. Download: OGG, MP3
     
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  7. spacecase0

    spacecase0 earth human

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    when photoshop version one came out, UFO sightings went super high
    many discount all sightings this way,
    assume that many many people are posting fake photos,
    what about the ones before that date ?

    I have talked to a few abduction people,
    what horrible energy
    no one fakes that kind of damage.
     
  8. nivek

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    There were a huge surge in UFOs and visitation contact during the cold war when the super powers were testing and detonating nuclear devices...

    Many alien abductions, in my opinion, are not and have not been faked...Its terrifyingly true experiences and there are some on this forum who have experienced this reality...

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  9. The shadow

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    Billy Mier
    Jonathan Reed/Rutner
    Howard Mengar

    hoax YouTube.
    thirdphaseofmoon
    secureteam10
    more and detailed information when I return from our trip.
     
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  10. Dejan Corovic

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    If one believes into UFOs he can't deny abductions. If aliens are coming here, they would be abducting people, animals, plants etc.

    Big problem with abductions, is that witnesses are in a state of shock and can't tell reality from hallucinations. In all my research abductions contributed the least amount of verifiable facts. Another bad thing about abductions is that there is a big number of freeloaders, who try to sell their mantra or recruit new cult members. The only thing really going for abductions is a good level of cross confirmation and consistency in stories.

    I shouldn't say that abductions are hoaxes, just that witnesses were too confused to give useful testimony.

    The most of verifiable facts I've got from close encounters of third kind. When aliens and witnesses were both outside the craft and had some kind of interaction.
     
  11. nivek

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    I think in some cases hypnotic regression can draw out the probable facts over what the conscious mind can retrieve...It's so traumatizing an experience to some abducted and in some cases a reoccurring experience that their mind filters out much of the detail to protect themselves from the shock of remembering the experience in their minds...It's like a nature defense of a psychological nature, but hypnotic regression appears to be very useful in getting past those filters or blocks and finding out what happened to these people...There's also been cases where technology was allegedly used to hide or remove memories from the abducted so it is understandable their confusion in trying to recall events...

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  12. humanoidlord

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    there are a lot of UFO hoaxes
     
  13. Dejan Corovic

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    Yeah, and that is a big problem for serious research.

    But if just one of these stories is true, abductions are real. And they can't all be hoaxes.
     
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  14. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    some are real, most are just hipnosys induced false memories
     
  15. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Your opinion...

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  16. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    yes, but its supported by how fallible hipnosys is
     
  17. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

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    The Linda Cortile case is one of the most ludicrous cases I've ever heard of. On so many levels.
     
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  18. The shadow

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    hey CGL! welcome to AE. did not see you come in!
     
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  19. SOUL-DRIFTER

    SOUL-DRIFTER Life Long Researcher

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    They do not belong in the same sentence together.
    Reed is a walking hoax, the other I am not at all convinced
     
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  20. humanoidlord

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    yes, it came right from a time people were obsessed with abductions, thanks whitley strieber (another hoax)
     
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