UFO videos

Discussion in 'UFOs & Sightings' started by humanoidlord, Feb 26, 2018.

  1. Standingstones

    Standingstones See you in heaven, if you make the list.

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    I disagree completely. Third Phase is showing those videos in order to get as many looks as is possible. I don’t care how time consuming it takes to make a video. A fake is a fake. Also, who wants to wade through 99 fake videos to possibly find 1 real video (if that is even possible.) Most people have better things to do with their time.
     
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  2. Dejan Corovic

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    Exactly! But their motive has no correlation to the quality of that 20% of good videos. When Peter cried wolf fourth time, there was a real wolf. And those who didn't believe to Peter, got eaten by that wolf ;-). Agreeing or disagreeing is not relevant, because physical reality is completely independent of personal opinion.

    Instead on focusing on messenger, it's more important to focus on message and evaluate it's truthfulness by looking at the whole context.

    As an aside, have you actually ever done any serious amount of CGI or digital imaging work?

    It is very unlikely that somebody will invest lots of time an money to make a fake, for which the only reward will be few laughs. The whole idea of hoax is to have a laugh on other peoples' expense. But joke would be on the hoaxer if he had spent whole month working on the hoax, and lost regular income because of that.

    You are only thinking as a passive observer who wants to be entertained. There are lots of people who are so keen on UFOs that they would devote all of their available time and even money in pursuit of the UFO research. A good quality UFO book, with thorough research and a couple of dozens of cases might take a whole year of meticulous work to complete.
     
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  3. Standingstones

    Standingstones See you in heaven, if you make the list.

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    I don’t believe you know me in the slightest. I don’t wished to be entertained by fakers. I believe we will need to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
     
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  4. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    just google "jerusalem UFO hoax"
     
  5. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    airplane, i saw a pretty much identical video made by a camera in that UFO volcano in mexico.
    the speed is because, its a well a time lapse
    confirmed hoax:
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    source: mexican UFO investigator santiago ytturia
    sorry guys just a plane
    the cousin brothers have been in the CGI business in a good while and they have proved in the past that they can make some pretty realistic hoaxes
     
  6. humanoidlord

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    these guys are pretty clever, i have heard in the past they use custom built drones in some of their hoaxes too
     
  7. Dejan Corovic

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    Yeah, I read one debunking analysis. It's just his point of view, nothing more. He picks things he wants to see.

    For starters, the spineless armchair philosopher is making a mockery of something that can seriously affect life of the witness. UFO witnesses can expect general ridicule in their community, being passed by promotions at work and even being fired as unreliable. There were cases where children of UFO witnesses had been harassed at school by other children. There were cases where rotten vegetables were thrown at witness in public in broad daylight and derogatory words shouted at them.

    It is highly regrettable that spineless guy is able to make living by humiliating and dwarfing perfectly honest people.

    90% of UFO cases don't get reported exactly for fear of ridicule not just of the witness, but of his/her whole family. I met 4-5 people on UFO forums that had personally seen UFOs, but they never reported them. They are making absolutely no fuss about it, they are just curious to understand what had happened. Are they all than fakes?

    Second, as for the reflection of the UFO's light on the Dome of The Rock, that was a very good one. I have full respect for that one. But weather reflection was there or not can only be done if both before and after photos were available and compared. One can not tell which reflection belongs to which light source, until one light source was removed. Otherwise, reflection would be there, just the armchair philosopher pretended not to see it.

    Third, as for video editing possibility, it's completely laughable. Why on Earth would one need expensive and sophisticated software to shake a video footage? Just take out your mobile, turn on the recording and shake it and you'll get 'shaken' footage for free. Most footage taken by hand held mobile cams is already shaken. Basically, that guy is seeing unicorns every-way he looks. It's just proof that he is not a serious researcher, but that he's pushing an agenda.

    Third, possibility of the hoax is not a proof of hoax, as a general case is not proof that in a particular case had happened. Proof of the hoax is that hoaxer was caught preparing or performing the hoax. If one bald man robs the bank, it doesn't mean that all bald men are bank robbers ;-). All these 'I can fake it' videos more show that that guy who's so quick to find the way to fake it, is good at misleading people and maybe does it for living, so he is most probably untrustworthy.

    That painted vessel is, in Diaz case, is not a proof that Diaz did the same. Additionally, Diaz's UFO shoots a beam of solid white light, that can not be replicated by any technology on Earth. Such, beams of solid light were mentioned in Benwaters case, Coyne helicopter case etc.
     
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  8. humanoidlord

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    jerusalem UFO: there isn't only one debunk, look at youtube there are better debunks there
    diaz: those are painted lamps made by a factory located near diaz home, the owners confirmed diaz ordered some from them, as for the bean, well he was a pro photographer, he certainly could do some tricks
     
  9. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Links !...You can't expect someone to go fishing around for a video you want to be seen, post it yourself...

    ...
     
  10. humanoidlord

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    again, i am lazy
     
  11. Alien

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  12. humanoidlord

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    very interesting, i have heard that it was venus, but i am unable to confirm or deny that
     
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  13. 1963

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    You are quite right Nivek. :Thumbsup: ... This is one of those old 'good looking' [nay... great looking!] flying saucer videos that initially has you all worked up thinking that nobody can still deny that there is proof of actual metallic flying saucers buzzing around our atmosphere. But then with a little added digging around you find that you're quickly dragged back down to Earth , because as you say.... the most likely identity for this splendid 'flying saucer' is in fact "The Queen Of UFO's" [a term that Phil Klass wittily came up with, and then thought that it was such a witty catch phrase that he erroneously used it in 99% of all ET/Ufologically Related cases!] ...

    Subject: Messengers Datum: 11-28-93 Area: Mufon_Public From The Lone Star (TX) MUFON Repor

    Still a "great looking" video though.... pity it's not the smoking gun though ! :(

    Cheers Buddy.
     
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  14. humanoidlord

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    thanks! well that debunks it
     
  15. michael59

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    The music is so dramatic. lol

    The cameraman did an excellent job!
     
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  16. michael59

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    Is that one of those rectangular black ones, like these ones?

     
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  17. michael59

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    Not always. I had one experience where I was followed by MIB for over 48 hours. He looked perfectly normal with the exception being that his wig was from the early 70's and so were his clothing.
     
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  18. michael59

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    This is a great video, Zeke. Thanks for sharing. :)

    I can't understand why, in this day and age, that anyone would be offended by "explicit" language, dude. lol
     
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  19. michael59

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    Regarding the first video... I have pretty bad eyesight but I could see little sparkles around it. At first I thought they were stars but they move too quickly back and forth to be stars.

    In the second video... I can hear the guy clicking his light source. The orbs or whatever they are called, definitely mimic the sound.
     
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  20. michael59

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    Omg, I forgot how much notdej loves to argue. lol

    Where is he anyway? I miss him. :)
     
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