Dejan Corovic
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Here is a good one from Texas 
Obviously on can not tell, but if it is real, it is a very good one.
Obviously on can not tell, but if it is real, it is a very good one.
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Dejan Corovic
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One street block away from me, in somebody's back garden, there is a metal surface that reflects light directly at my window, every day during the exactly same 2 - 3 hours period. This is the same thing, particularly because its not moving. It could just be metal roof over somebody's shed or ventilation duct etc.
pigfarmer
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Here is a good one from Texas
Obviously on can not tell, but if it is real, it is a very good one.
Scout ship from the Fesarius again? Good. I'm out of Tranya.
pigfarmer
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Mystery ‘bulging triangle UFO’ filmed lurking over major city for 2 HOURS
Mysterious ‘bulging triangle UFO’ filmed lurking over major city for TWO HOURS leaving alien hunters stunned
Olivia Burke 8:35 ET, Feb 22 2022 Updated: 11:22 ET, Feb 22 202
ALIEN hunters were left stunned after a "bulging triangle UFO" was filmed lurking over a major city for TWO HOURS.
The unusual object was spotted prowling the skies of Islamabad, Pakistan, in broad daylight by an extraterrestrial enthusiast.
The triangular shaped object was seen hovering over Islamabad, Pakistan, for over 2 hoursCredit: Credit: Pen News/Arslan Warraich
Alien enthusiast Arslan Warraich spotted the UFO lurking in the skiesCredit: Credit: Pen News/Arslan Warraich
Gobsmacked Arslan Warraich says he spent a lengthy two hours watching the triangular shape hovering above the capital city.
The 33-year-old was mesmerised by the unusual object drifting over the city’s wealthy DHA 1 district - and the clip has now sent sky-watchers' tongues wagging.
He recorded the UFO making the most of the clear airspace for over 12 minutes from different angles to acquire the best view.
The businessman, formerly of Birmingham, then shared the unbelievable sighting on the internet for other alien fanatics to enjoy.
Arslan explained: "I still don't know what it was.
"I filmed it for over 12 minutes at different times, took dozens of pictures and observed it for the best part of two hours.
"To the naked eye it seemed like a black round rock but as I zoomed in, I could see it was roughly the shape of a triangle with a clear bulge on top towards the back.
"It was solid black and had no sharp edges. It wasn't reflecting too much light and no lights were emanating from it."
In the extraordinary footage, the mystifying object is seen hanging motionless over the hustle and bustle of the capital city below.
A fly and several birds then also crossed into the shot, showing the clear difference between the creatures and the distant UFO.
Arslan added: "I don't know what it was, but I know what it wasn't – it wasn't a bird.
"I actually got birds in the clip while I was filming this thing. I fly drones myself so I know it wasn't a commercial drone either.
"And it makes no sense for our military to be flying secret drones over a posh area of Islamabad where most of the army and government officers live."
'RARE' SIGHTING
After sharing the enthralling clip online, he sparked a frenzy amongst fellow UFO hunters who applauded the clarity of the sighting.
One admirer wrote: "The recording is extremely high quality.
"Not just for the technical achievement of such extended physical effort to track it for so long, but also for the extended verbal commentary and description of the event.
"Do you realise how rare a document like this is?"
Another viewer added: "This is how you capture a UFO!"
While a third conspiracy theorist suggested the interestingly shaped object was a perfect match for a sighting they’d had in New York.
They wrote: "It was just like this, not blinking lights, no nothing, just floating in the sky for about four minutes and then it went up until it was completely gone."
I don't know what it was, but I know what it wasn't – it wasn't a bird.
Arslan Warraich
Arslan stayed to appreciate the curious shape swirling in the skies were too dark to see it.
He brushed off skeptics comments, insisting regardless of what he saw, humans are not alone in the universe.
The 33-year-old continued: "With the number of stars and planets in the known universe, it is statistically impossible that we are the only intelligent beings in this universe.
"There must be civilisations which are millions or billions of years more advanced than us and then there must be others that are just starting out.
"Have they have visited Earth? I think we have to look at the evidence and go where it leads. There is certainly a possibility."
It comes after alien hunters claimed NASA accidentally captured a flying saucer zooming above the Earth on an unearthed image from the Apollo. 9 mission.
They suggested the picture showing the tiny black triangle lurking among the clouds was mistakenly shared by the space agency.
Mysterious ‘bulging triangle UFO’ filmed lurking over major city for TWO HOURS leaving alien hunters stunned
Olivia Burke 8:35 ET, Feb 22 2022 Updated: 11:22 ET, Feb 22 202
ALIEN hunters were left stunned after a "bulging triangle UFO" was filmed lurking over a major city for TWO HOURS.
The unusual object was spotted prowling the skies of Islamabad, Pakistan, in broad daylight by an extraterrestrial enthusiast.
The triangular shaped object was seen hovering over Islamabad, Pakistan, for over 2 hoursCredit: Credit: Pen News/Arslan Warraich
Alien enthusiast Arslan Warraich spotted the UFO lurking in the skiesCredit: Credit: Pen News/Arslan Warraich
Gobsmacked Arslan Warraich says he spent a lengthy two hours watching the triangular shape hovering above the capital city.
The 33-year-old was mesmerised by the unusual object drifting over the city’s wealthy DHA 1 district - and the clip has now sent sky-watchers' tongues wagging.
He recorded the UFO making the most of the clear airspace for over 12 minutes from different angles to acquire the best view.
The businessman, formerly of Birmingham, then shared the unbelievable sighting on the internet for other alien fanatics to enjoy.
Arslan explained: "I still don't know what it was.
"I filmed it for over 12 minutes at different times, took dozens of pictures and observed it for the best part of two hours.
"To the naked eye it seemed like a black round rock but as I zoomed in, I could see it was roughly the shape of a triangle with a clear bulge on top towards the back.
"It was solid black and had no sharp edges. It wasn't reflecting too much light and no lights were emanating from it."
In the extraordinary footage, the mystifying object is seen hanging motionless over the hustle and bustle of the capital city below.
A fly and several birds then also crossed into the shot, showing the clear difference between the creatures and the distant UFO.
Arslan added: "I don't know what it was, but I know what it wasn't – it wasn't a bird.
"I actually got birds in the clip while I was filming this thing. I fly drones myself so I know it wasn't a commercial drone either.
"And it makes no sense for our military to be flying secret drones over a posh area of Islamabad where most of the army and government officers live."
'RARE' SIGHTING
After sharing the enthralling clip online, he sparked a frenzy amongst fellow UFO hunters who applauded the clarity of the sighting.
One admirer wrote: "The recording is extremely high quality.
"Not just for the technical achievement of such extended physical effort to track it for so long, but also for the extended verbal commentary and description of the event.
"Do you realise how rare a document like this is?"
Another viewer added: "This is how you capture a UFO!"
While a third conspiracy theorist suggested the interestingly shaped object was a perfect match for a sighting they’d had in New York.
They wrote: "It was just like this, not blinking lights, no nothing, just floating in the sky for about four minutes and then it went up until it was completely gone."
I don't know what it was, but I know what it wasn't – it wasn't a bird.
Arslan Warraich
Arslan stayed to appreciate the curious shape swirling in the skies were too dark to see it.
He brushed off skeptics comments, insisting regardless of what he saw, humans are not alone in the universe.
The 33-year-old continued: "With the number of stars and planets in the known universe, it is statistically impossible that we are the only intelligent beings in this universe.
"There must be civilisations which are millions or billions of years more advanced than us and then there must be others that are just starting out.
"Have they have visited Earth? I think we have to look at the evidence and go where it leads. There is certainly a possibility."
It comes after alien hunters claimed NASA accidentally captured a flying saucer zooming above the Earth on an unearthed image from the Apollo. 9 mission.
They suggested the picture showing the tiny black triangle lurking among the clouds was mistakenly shared by the space agency.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
No interest in a Pakistani UFO, eh?
Here's something to chew on:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a37028104/battle-blimps-history/
The Return of the Battle Blimps
Operating at the edge of space, 21st century airships are the ultimate weapon in the war on international terrorism.
By Jim Wilson
Sep 23, 2021
Popular Mechanics
In the March 2002 issue, Popular Mechanics explored the return of an all military weapon system—the battle blimp. While lighter-than-air aircraft had been used in battle since the Civil War, blimps never found much use in the atomic era. In the early 2000s, things had changed and blimps seemed like a great option for battling international terrorism. The idea never really took off, but its core idea of blimps powered by solar power could still find a place in the skies in the near future.
Of the thousands of men who volunteered to fight in the Civil War, none offered their services with the panache of Thaddeus Sobieski Constantine Lowe. Suspended beneath a hydrogen-filled balloon floating 500 ft. above Washington, D.C., Lowe sent this message to President Lincoln: "Sir, I take great pleasure in sending you this first dispatch ever telegraphed from an aerial station."
More than 140 years after that afternoon on June 17, 1861, a new generation of high-altitude, heavy-lift airships is emerging. Equipped with sophisticated ground-tracking, radar, and defended with laser cannons, these 21st century battle blimps could become a crucial weapon in the war on international terrorism.
Hovering high above the fray for weeks on end, they could economically monitor enemy troops and point the laser designators that guide cruise missiles and smart bombs, released from ships and conventional warplanes, toward elusive moving targets.
"The desire to have an electronic payload in the stratosphere has been with us almost since the invention of aviation," said Per Lindstrand, founder of Lindstrand Balloons of Oswestry, England. Located between 11 and 13 miles above sea level, the stratosphere is above all weather and is almost moisture-free.
"It is also the calmest part of the atmosphere, which is very important for geostationary flight," Lindstrand said at the 14th American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Lighter-Than-Air Systems Convention and Exhibition in Akron, Ohio, this past summer.
The First Battle Blimps
Galerie BilderweltGetty Images
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As part of Operation Plumbbob tests conducted in 1957, the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) hung nuclear weapons as large as 74 kilotons beneath blimps. The nuclear balloon era came to a close in 1963 after a pair of freak accidents destroyed the AEC's two airships on two consecutive days. On that Saturday, April 20, a blaze caused by a loose gas cap on a motor-generator set fire to an airship moored overhead. The next day, a lightning strike caused the cable to break on the second airship. It drifted across the Nevada weapons test range and out of sight of ground crews, never to be seen again.While the AEC was experimenting with using airships to lift nuclear weapons, the Air Force was in the midst of Operation Moby Dick. This was an attempt to photograph Soviet military installations from altitudes over 100,000 ft., safely above the range of surface-to-air missiles. An internal study written in 1957, and classified secret for 40 years, concluded that free-floating balloons could not accurately photograph small targets. The job of watching our adversaries was eventually turned over to U-2 and SR-71 aircraft, and later satellites.The military has known how to lift payloads as heavy as 15 tons into the stratosphere for nearly half a century. In the spring of 1960, Goodyear Aircraft—now part of Lockheed Martin—went public with a proposal to enlarge the 80-ft. ZPG-3W airship it built for the U.S. Navy to nearly the length of two football fields. The unnamed craft would have carried 110,000 pounds.
Geostationary operation in the stratosphere permits radar and other observation systems perfected for satellites to operate at 10 to 50 times the resolution of the view from space, providing highly detailed battlefield images. During tests conducted over Kosovo in November 2000, for example, the United Nations successfully demonstrated that synthetic aperture radar hung beneath a small commercial airship—the sort used for advertising-could detect buried land mines and even live hand grenades.
"The results of the radar trial in Kosovo exceeded those expected," Simon Christoforato, of the British Defence Evaluation and Research Agency, told the Akron conference.
Advertisement - Continue Reading Below
Power To Burn
Popular Mechanics
The second key to the revival of the battle blimp is power. Here, NASA engineers and contractors have played the starring role by solving the problem that, at least publicly, stumped military designers during the early years of the Star Wars missile defense program. At that time, blimps were envisioned as platforms for testing lasers that would eventually shoot down Soviet missiles in space.
Advertisement - Continue Reading Below
In the early 1980s, the Pentagon funded a design study of a battle blimp powered by four piston engines, fueled with liquid hydrogen."This obviously meant frequent refueling, which is undesirable as 90 percent of all airship accidents happen during the docking phase," Lindstrand said. The Star Wars blimp was never built.
NASA approached the fuel problem by looking to the sun. It financed research into the development of high-efficiency-30 percent plus solar cells and, later, lightweight fuel cells. This work was eventually incorporated into NASA's Helios program which involved building a long-endurance, high-altitude drone for atmospheric research.
Inside the Battle Blimp
Future battle blimps will draw heavily on technology, such as solar cells and fuel cells developed for aerial cellphone relay stations and laser cannons designed for missile defense.
Popular Mechanics / John Batchelor
During daylight hours, high-efficiency solar cells power electric motors for propulsion. Surplus electricity is used to break water down into hydrogen and oxygen, which is then stored. At night the gases are recombined in a fuel cell, producing electricity and water, which is used the following day. In an airship, the combination of solar cells and fuel cells provides an additional benefit. As the lifting bag leaks—all such bags eventually leak-lost helium is simply replaced with lighter hydrogen.
"A lot of NASA Helios technology has found its way into what we are doing," Charles K. Lavan Jr. tells Popular Mechanics. He is the principal engineer for advanced programs at Lockheed Martin Naval Electronics and Surveillance Systems in Akron. The company has designed a high-altitude airship that can carry telephone- and Internet-switching equipment. Lavan heads a team that has come up with a design that uses nacelle-mounted, brushless DC motors to keep a blimp"on station." Hydrogen and oxygen are stored in hollow tail-structure tubes-and there will be plenty to store.
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High efficiency solar cells operate even better at high altitudes, Lavan explains. The net result is that sufficient power for both telecommunications gear and station-keeping can be obtained by covering only the tail assembly with solar cells. To satisfy the higher power requirements for radar and laser designators, and perhaps someday defensive laser cannons, designers could extend solar cell coverage over more of the airship.
Exactly how far the United States has progressed in developing a 21st century battle blimp remains a matter of speculation. The most advanced work is highly classified. Some attribute UFO sightings to a massive military balloon that has the ability to mask itself by displaying on its undercarriage a montage of stars that duplicate those overhead. What is known for certain is that the more expensive the war on international terrorism grows, the more vital the "aerial station" Lowe offered President Lincoln will become.
Here's something to chew on:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a37028104/battle-blimps-history/
The Return of the Battle Blimps
Operating at the edge of space, 21st century airships are the ultimate weapon in the war on international terrorism.
By Jim Wilson
Sep 23, 2021
Popular Mechanics
In the March 2002 issue, Popular Mechanics explored the return of an all military weapon system—the battle blimp. While lighter-than-air aircraft had been used in battle since the Civil War, blimps never found much use in the atomic era. In the early 2000s, things had changed and blimps seemed like a great option for battling international terrorism. The idea never really took off, but its core idea of blimps powered by solar power could still find a place in the skies in the near future.
Of the thousands of men who volunteered to fight in the Civil War, none offered their services with the panache of Thaddeus Sobieski Constantine Lowe. Suspended beneath a hydrogen-filled balloon floating 500 ft. above Washington, D.C., Lowe sent this message to President Lincoln: "Sir, I take great pleasure in sending you this first dispatch ever telegraphed from an aerial station."
More than 140 years after that afternoon on June 17, 1861, a new generation of high-altitude, heavy-lift airships is emerging. Equipped with sophisticated ground-tracking, radar, and defended with laser cannons, these 21st century battle blimps could become a crucial weapon in the war on international terrorism.
Hovering high above the fray for weeks on end, they could economically monitor enemy troops and point the laser designators that guide cruise missiles and smart bombs, released from ships and conventional warplanes, toward elusive moving targets.
"The desire to have an electronic payload in the stratosphere has been with us almost since the invention of aviation," said Per Lindstrand, founder of Lindstrand Balloons of Oswestry, England. Located between 11 and 13 miles above sea level, the stratosphere is above all weather and is almost moisture-free.
"It is also the calmest part of the atmosphere, which is very important for geostationary flight," Lindstrand said at the 14th American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Lighter-Than-Air Systems Convention and Exhibition in Akron, Ohio, this past summer.
The First Battle Blimps
Galerie BilderweltGetty Images
Advertisement - Continue Reading Below
As part of Operation Plumbbob tests conducted in 1957, the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) hung nuclear weapons as large as 74 kilotons beneath blimps. The nuclear balloon era came to a close in 1963 after a pair of freak accidents destroyed the AEC's two airships on two consecutive days. On that Saturday, April 20, a blaze caused by a loose gas cap on a motor-generator set fire to an airship moored overhead. The next day, a lightning strike caused the cable to break on the second airship. It drifted across the Nevada weapons test range and out of sight of ground crews, never to be seen again.While the AEC was experimenting with using airships to lift nuclear weapons, the Air Force was in the midst of Operation Moby Dick. This was an attempt to photograph Soviet military installations from altitudes over 100,000 ft., safely above the range of surface-to-air missiles. An internal study written in 1957, and classified secret for 40 years, concluded that free-floating balloons could not accurately photograph small targets. The job of watching our adversaries was eventually turned over to U-2 and SR-71 aircraft, and later satellites.The military has known how to lift payloads as heavy as 15 tons into the stratosphere for nearly half a century. In the spring of 1960, Goodyear Aircraft—now part of Lockheed Martin—went public with a proposal to enlarge the 80-ft. ZPG-3W airship it built for the U.S. Navy to nearly the length of two football fields. The unnamed craft would have carried 110,000 pounds.
Geostationary operation in the stratosphere permits radar and other observation systems perfected for satellites to operate at 10 to 50 times the resolution of the view from space, providing highly detailed battlefield images. During tests conducted over Kosovo in November 2000, for example, the United Nations successfully demonstrated that synthetic aperture radar hung beneath a small commercial airship—the sort used for advertising-could detect buried land mines and even live hand grenades.
"The results of the radar trial in Kosovo exceeded those expected," Simon Christoforato, of the British Defence Evaluation and Research Agency, told the Akron conference.
Advertisement - Continue Reading Below
Power To Burn
Popular Mechanics
The second key to the revival of the battle blimp is power. Here, NASA engineers and contractors have played the starring role by solving the problem that, at least publicly, stumped military designers during the early years of the Star Wars missile defense program. At that time, blimps were envisioned as platforms for testing lasers that would eventually shoot down Soviet missiles in space.
Advertisement - Continue Reading Below
In the early 1980s, the Pentagon funded a design study of a battle blimp powered by four piston engines, fueled with liquid hydrogen."This obviously meant frequent refueling, which is undesirable as 90 percent of all airship accidents happen during the docking phase," Lindstrand said. The Star Wars blimp was never built.
NASA approached the fuel problem by looking to the sun. It financed research into the development of high-efficiency-30 percent plus solar cells and, later, lightweight fuel cells. This work was eventually incorporated into NASA's Helios program which involved building a long-endurance, high-altitude drone for atmospheric research.
Inside the Battle Blimp
Future battle blimps will draw heavily on technology, such as solar cells and fuel cells developed for aerial cellphone relay stations and laser cannons designed for missile defense.
Popular Mechanics / John Batchelor
During daylight hours, high-efficiency solar cells power electric motors for propulsion. Surplus electricity is used to break water down into hydrogen and oxygen, which is then stored. At night the gases are recombined in a fuel cell, producing electricity and water, which is used the following day. In an airship, the combination of solar cells and fuel cells provides an additional benefit. As the lifting bag leaks—all such bags eventually leak-lost helium is simply replaced with lighter hydrogen.
"A lot of NASA Helios technology has found its way into what we are doing," Charles K. Lavan Jr. tells Popular Mechanics. He is the principal engineer for advanced programs at Lockheed Martin Naval Electronics and Surveillance Systems in Akron. The company has designed a high-altitude airship that can carry telephone- and Internet-switching equipment. Lavan heads a team that has come up with a design that uses nacelle-mounted, brushless DC motors to keep a blimp"on station." Hydrogen and oxygen are stored in hollow tail-structure tubes-and there will be plenty to store.
Pop Mech Rewind
PM Takes a Look at Fighter Jet Ejection Seats
The Weird Supersonic Bomber That Never Was
The Sea Shadow, America's 'Invisible Warship'
High efficiency solar cells operate even better at high altitudes, Lavan explains. The net result is that sufficient power for both telecommunications gear and station-keeping can be obtained by covering only the tail assembly with solar cells. To satisfy the higher power requirements for radar and laser designators, and perhaps someday defensive laser cannons, designers could extend solar cell coverage over more of the airship.
Exactly how far the United States has progressed in developing a 21st century battle blimp remains a matter of speculation. The most advanced work is highly classified. Some attribute UFO sightings to a massive military balloon that has the ability to mask itself by displaying on its undercarriage a montage of stars that duplicate those overhead. What is known for certain is that the more expensive the war on international terrorism grows, the more vital the "aerial station" Lowe offered President Lincoln will become.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
That Pakistani sighting sounds an awful lot like one of those military blimps, if they exist, which they probably do in some form. Popular Science back in the '70s had all sorts of articles about heavy lift rigid airships. The earliest use of any balloon was for observation and that hasn't changed:
The Giant Blimp Hovering Over Kabul
A solar powered craft has already flown around the world without using any fuel:
Inside the First Solar-Powered Flight Around the World | Innovation| Smithsonian Magazine
High altitude balloons with all sorts of interesting capabilities are currently being used, they are quite real and current:
What We Know About The High-Altitude Balloons Recently Lingering Off America's Coastlines
Serious long term loiter capability.
If this is the publicly available information that some schmuck like me sitting in his jammies can find out in just a few minutes, I imagine the Department of Good Ideas that Dr. Alexander mentions has probably had a look at this. You go back and read about at the experience we've had over the years - Skyhook, Mogul etc - and realize that the applications for these things still exist and the capability has only increased. Seems like a pretty good return on investment there. Just like decades past I bet these things are often subject to UFO reports - and the military or intelligence agency responsible for them would be tickled to hear that.
Obviously doesn't explain the high strange really fast ones, but I bet it does explain this incident in Islamabad.
The Giant Blimp Hovering Over Kabul
A solar powered craft has already flown around the world without using any fuel:
Inside the First Solar-Powered Flight Around the World | Innovation| Smithsonian Magazine
High altitude balloons with all sorts of interesting capabilities are currently being used, they are quite real and current:
What We Know About The High-Altitude Balloons Recently Lingering Off America's Coastlines
Serious long term loiter capability.
If this is the publicly available information that some schmuck like me sitting in his jammies can find out in just a few minutes, I imagine the Department of Good Ideas that Dr. Alexander mentions has probably had a look at this. You go back and read about at the experience we've had over the years - Skyhook, Mogul etc - and realize that the applications for these things still exist and the capability has only increased. Seems like a pretty good return on investment there. Just like decades past I bet these things are often subject to UFO reports - and the military or intelligence agency responsible for them would be tickled to hear that.
Obviously doesn't explain the high strange really fast ones, but I bet it does explain this incident in Islamabad.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
Balloon at 1:20 Probably a lot like the ones in this link that I posted below:
What We Know About The High-Altitude Balloons Recently Lingering Off America's Coastlines
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
I was getting in my truck the other morning, heard a large plane flying low and slow coming in my direction. I could see what looked like powerful white lights for landing (or who knows what) , the entire wing and the recognition lights. I knew it had to be a C17 or the like. Any time there is conflict in the world that heavy lift wing at Stewart Newburgh is likely to be active. It looked like a boomerang or bat wing - exactly has been reported around here for years.
Even knowing what it was it took forever to get my iPhone ready. I tried to take a video and bungled it. My prize was two still pics and this was the clearest of them. Yes, it's a plane but the difference between what I saw and what is in the pic is amazing. Like two totally different things but they're not. It seemed so low at the time I could throw a rock and hit it - obviously not but it looked a hell of a lot bigger real time.
No reduction, here's the entire pic from Feb 23 2022 0547
Even knowing what it was it took forever to get my iPhone ready. I tried to take a video and bungled it. My prize was two still pics and this was the clearest of them. Yes, it's a plane but the difference between what I saw and what is in the pic is amazing. Like two totally different things but they're not. It seemed so low at the time I could throw a rock and hit it - obviously not but it looked a hell of a lot bigger real time.
No reduction, here's the entire pic from Feb 23 2022 0547
Todd Feinman
Show us the satellite pics...
This is supposed to be actual intercept footage taken during the Triangle wave in Belgium:
Dejan Corovic
As above, so bellow
But there is obvious movement there consistent with movement of aircraft.
Anyways, here the one similar to the previous two: hovering in a spot at night close to a city. Maybe the same craft goes every night to visit a different city.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
Just showing what they look like. I see things like that constantly, I live not too far from Stewart-Newburgh ANG base that they operate out of. Sometimes you don't hear a sound but look up and see something BIG up there. The recognition lights aren't always obvious and the landing lights, especially on a foggy or wet morning, can be very startling.
Dejan Corovic
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OK, but do they stand in one spot for many minutes without changing overall size?
However an aircraft moves it will very quickly change the size.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
In actual practice yes, sometimes they do appear stationary. All depends on what it and I am doing at the time. I once saw a bright orange cigar shape that seemed to hover. Nope. Commercial airliner making a wide turn headed for SWF caught in the morning sun
Dejan Corovic
As above, so bellow
If that's true, then I've been fooled by many of these night videos.
I even posted many of them here.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
I can’t speak to any videos you posted but yes, it’s true. So much faith is placed in eyewitness testimony when it’s saying something agreeable there should be room for when it’s not
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Dejan Corovic
As above, so bellow
They should start putting thermal imaging cameras on mobile phones.
That would show plane wings and tails
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