UFOs: skeptics, disclosure, and contact

Todd Feinman

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
Some septics have tuned into this post. They want to keep the door open for the possibility that UFOs might indeed turn out to be non-human technology. Their past biases and ignorance will be very obvious once the truth comes out though. I think there is a real danger of narcissism that can develop among those with a science background; they treat science as a religion and some even have "faith" that aliens exist out in the cosmos (with zero evidence to support the conclusion and the end of the day). UFOs don't require faith.
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My Awkward Inference

There have been over 100K UFO sightings reported worldwide since 1940. Roughly 5% or so are “strong” events, which seem rather hard to explain due to either many witnesses, especially reliable witnesses, physical evidence, or other factors. Many of these events are also “dramatic”, wherein the...
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There is nothing there that hasn't been proffered by UFO researchers for a very long time.
 
pigfarmer

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
John Greenewald made some excellent points in his last couple of audio podcasts.

Any Reaper video is by definition classified and if a civilian is in possession of it where did it come from?

Where was the NRO during the spate of Chinese balloons, etc and doesn't it seem highly improbable that a number of assets had to have been involved? Or are we really that unprepared?

Why did the other shootdowns instantly fall out of public notice or concern? We still seeing things ?

If Eric Davis' meeting with Admiral Wilson was mentioned shouldn't he be willing to testify under oath to what he's been saying?

There is some core phenomenon at work and whatever it is the only way we'll know about it is when it wants everyone to know. In the meantime we'll amuse ourselves with ..... ibid
 
Todd Feinman

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
At Metabunk:
www.metabunk.org

Are All UFO Reports Wrong, Or Are They Evidence That UFOs Exist?

That is a mischaracterization of what I said. I understood that you wanted to bring across that the suggestion that a large number of people were mistaken is insulting and not up for debate. Millenia-old wisdom: to err is human (errare humanum est).
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(red comments, mine)
"1) No-one's reporting flying discs over the USA prior to 1947. (I suspect the "foo fighters" of WW2 are different phenomena).
That is not really true. And often the "discs' are lenticular, not flat. Here is the SternenSchiff of 1851.
(2) In 1947 Kenneth Arnold claims to see UFOs. They are not disc-shaped.
True
(3) A reporter misunderstands Arnold, and coins the term "flying saucer". The "flying saucers" story gets widespread publicity.
True
(4) Within days, other people are reporting "flying saucers", not craft of the shape (or flight characteristics) Arnold described."
This is also true, but the term was used as a catchall for all shapes of UFOs after Arnold's sighting, just as the term "airship" was used before. In fact, in some old articles where an object that is not saucer-shaped is described, the words are in quotation marks, thus it was meant not to be taken literally.

I gave up trying to post at metabunk. Tagged for speculation!! :p
That's all they do over there! Often in a very rude manner.
 
Todd Feinman

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
www.express.co.uk

Ex-Navy chief wants to lift lid on UFOs but fears 'going to jail'

The former Navy senior said he wants to share information on a potentially important sighting but worries he would be sent to jail.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk

www.foxnews.com

UFO search: Retired Navy senior chief 'not going to jail' to report what he saw in Afghanistan

A retired Navy senior chief petty officer told Fox News Digital that he believes he saw a UFO in Afghanistan, but he's afraid to come forward because the information is classified
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
 
Todd Feinman

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
I predict that Mick West will sniff the air and come around, in the not too distant future. He's a smart guy, he'll figure it out.
 
Dejan Corovic

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
This is potentially even bigger then Nimitz encounters. There is CIA whistle-blower, under the protection of Congress, right now talking about UFO crash retrievals going back to the beginning of 20th century:

thedebrief.org

Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin - The Debrief

In a Debrief exclusive, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean report that a former official says the U.S. has retrieved craft of non-human origin.
thedebrief.org thedebrief.org
 
Creepy Green Light

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
Dejan Corovic said:
This is potentially even bigger then Nimitz encounters. There is CIA whistle-blower, under the protection of Congress, right now talking about UFO crash retrievals going back to the beginning of 20th century:

thedebrief.org

Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin - The Debrief

In a Debrief exclusive, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean report that a former official says the U.S. has retrieved craft of non-human origin.
thedebrief.org thedebrief.org
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The link goes to a broke page when I just tried it.
 
Spaceman spiff

Spaceman spiff

Noble
"Appears"... I would still be careful. Weve seen many times on this field that just when the prize is in reach, some trapdoor opens beneath your feet. Apparently NYT, WAPO and Politico declined to run with the story? Why?
 
Dejan Corovic

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Here is a .PDF print of that web page, in case it goes "missing".
 

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