UFOs vs jets have we fought UFOs?

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When a U.S. Fighter Pilot Got into a Dogfight with a UFO | HISTORY

The government explained the rapidly maneuvering lights as a weather balloon. Experts say there are holes to that theory.
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This is start of a discussion on if we fought air battles vs UFOs. If we lost aircraft to them.
The case is start with is classic. Air ground visual sightings. Radar and a jet engaging a UFO.
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Todd Feinman

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
I'm sure we have shot at them / launched missiles at them, etc. In the old accounts, there are a number of examples of people shooting at UFOs even way back in the 19th/ early 2Oth century --they hit them sometimes too. There is also the Battle of Los Angeles --the real one, not the movie!
 
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Here is the enhanced battle of LA. Note the shells exploding on the craft
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"White House concern may possibly have resulted in an order to shoot down the UFOs, reported in various International News Service (INS) stories on July 29, 1952. E.g., one such story reported that "jet pilots have been placed on a 24-hour nationwide 'alert against the flying saucers' with orders to 'shoot them down' if they ignore orders to land." An Air Force public information officer, Lt. Col. Moncel Monte, confirmed the directive stating, "The jet pilots are, and have been, under orders to investigate unidentified objects and to shoot them down if they can't talk them down." It was further stated that no pilot had been able to get close enough to take a shot at a “flying saucer”, as the objects would disappear or speed away as soon as an interceptor approached, sometimes outflying their pilots by “as much as a thousand miles an hour.”

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1952 Washington, D.C. UFO incident

The 1952 Washington, D.C. UFO incident, also known as the Washington flap or the Washington National Airport Sightings, was a series of unidentified flying object reports from July 12 to July 29, 1952, over Washington, D.C. The most publicized sightings took place on consecutive weekends, July...
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Todd Feinman

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
And there was an anonymous letter circulating at the time --some thought from Einstein, pleading with the government to not open fire on them. In the 1952 "Washington Merry-go-round, unfortunately for skeptics, the objects were detected on radar while the pilots pursuing them simultaneously had eyes on them.
 
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The thing that bugs me is in 1952 we had our government screaming swamp gas and hoax while ordering pilots to shoot UFOs down
 
nivek

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As Above So Below

Investigator Says the U.S. Military Fired on an Unusual Jellyfish UFO​

There are few names in the UFO disclosure world as well known as Jeremy Corbell – the documentary filmmaker responsible for obtaining and releasing a number of military videos and photographs of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encountered by U.S. military personnel, including many taken by pilots using their own cellphones. Corbell’s releases have been confirmed by the Pentagon and the Department of Defense, so those in the UFO research world perk up their ears when Corbell has something new to say. That he did recently in an appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast when he made a controversial revelation: he had seen documents concerning an incident when the U.S. military fired upon a jellyfish-shaped UFO. Since there have been very few confirmed attacks on UAPs – Corbell himself released documentation on at least one – because of the military’s strict rules on engagement, this is highly controversial. And, since many of the UFOs that look like jellyfish have turned out to be rocket launches by SpaceX or a foreign space agency, this could easily have triggered an international incident. What did the documents Jeremy Corbell saw reveal? Did they look like these two?

"We see other countries firing on these. Russia, Syria – we know it's not their assets so the question is, who are these?”
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Jeremy Corbell expressed surprise when he told Joe Rogan about reading the details surrounding a UAP sighting that seemed to escalate into a deadly encounter or potential dogfight. As reported by The Daily Star, he explained that the U.S. military has explicit rules of engagement determining when to fire upon a potential enemy aircraft and when to stand down. Corbell said that those documents discuss determining whether or not the craft or object has a weaponized payload – a “yes” to that question means this UAP is a potential threat and can be fired upon. One piece of data that undoubtedly contributed to the decision in this case was that the UAP was similar to objects the military has confirmed were fired upon by Russian an Syrian forces – that means the UAPs are not theirs and they considered them to be a threat as well.

"I have images of one of these. It looks like a jellyfish. It's stiff, about the size of a big coffee table – about 10-12 feet.”
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If you were thinking U.S. military pilots should be able to identify a rocket launch that looks like a jellyfish, you would be right … and Corbell supports that argument by revealing that he saw at least one photo of at least one of these jellyfish UAPs and it was a relatively small and rigid object – nothing like a rocket or a real jellyfish. He could tell two more disconcerting things from this photograph.

"It was domed and was recently fired upon."
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If there’s one thing you can count on with Jeremy Corbell, he gets his hands on military photos of the UAPs in question – he’s the guy who obtained shots of a pyramid-shaped UFO, videos of dozens of spherical UFOs buzzing aircraft carriers, and the famous ‘transmedium vehicles’ from 2019 that showed no loss of velocity nor maneuverability as they dove in and out of the ocean. He claims to have seen the jellyfish UFO and could tell it had a dome and was recently fired upon. Unbelievably, he also revealed that the military currently has no “retrieval program” for downed UAPs or material left after the missile hit.

What could this jellyfish UAP have been? At ten to twelve feet in length, it sounds like it was the size of a drone. A military drone armed with a ‘payload’ would fit into the decision-making process that resulted in it being fired upon. However, why would this drone be any different than the ‘drones’ in a swam encountered by an aircraft carrier? And why the jellyfish shape?

It seems we can eliminate the possibility that this was a recent rocket launch because of its small size – there are plenty of photos of that jellyfish-like phenomena (see one here) to make identifying it easy – yet many people continue to call in their sightings. The jellyfish UFO or “Atmospheric Jellyfish” is a distinctly shaped UAP that has been around for a while and seen and photographed by many people worldwide, including meteorologists. As Cryptid Wiki reports, “It is one of the few UFO phenomena to be recognized and researched by the scientific community, while additionally still filling the headlines of newspapers.”

The first and perhaps most famous jellyfish UFO incident occurred on September 20, 1977, over an area stretching from Copenhagen and Helsinki in the west to Vladivostok, Russia, in the east. It’s called the ‘Petrozavodsk phenomenon’ because of a particularly large glowing object that beamed numerous rays on the city in what was then the Soviet Union. (Photo here.) It was blamed on aliens and military testing, but the most commonly held explanation as the launch of the Soviet satellite Kosmos-955. Because of the secrecy of the Soviet Union, there were (and still are) doubters, and the Petrozavodsk phenomenon was said to have influenced the creation of Setka AN, a Soviet research program for anomalous atmospheric phenomena.
Another famous Russian jellyfish UAP (do you detect a trend here?) was a squid-like bright light in 1985 witnessed by the crew of an Aeroflot plane flying over Minsk enroute from Tbilisi to Tallinn. A similar squid UAP was sighted on December 24, 1999 (Santa?) over Vitebsk, Belarus. Wintesses claimed the objects were moving, enormous, noiseless, semitransparent, and vanished suddenly, almost like it disintegrated. Another satellite launch?

A more recent non-Russian jellyfish UFO occurred in 2015 over Groningen, Netherlands. Witness Harry Perton thought he was going to take photos of a storm but instead captured a flashing green jellyfish UFO floating in the night sky. He claimed he saw the flash but not the jellyfish UAP until he looked at the photos later. As usual, it was blamed on a rocket launch, a lens flare, aliens or a weather anomaly – even Perton thought it might have been a ray of sun beaming through the dark storm clouds that gave it a greenish tint and jellyfish shape. (Photo here.)

Jellyfish UFOs of the non-rocket and non-weather anomaly kind are rare and unusual. Military pilots would certainly not want to be accused of firing a deadly missile at either by mistake. Jeremy Corbell has proven to have an eye for noting when a UAP is nothing like any known human-made aircraft. Let’s hope he reveals the photo so the public can see just what the jellyfish UAP was that the U.S. military deemed dangerous enough to attack.

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I'm researching a case. Chicago nov 28 1952 a green disk was seen then a military jet following there was a flash of lighting then the plane exploded scattering Debis over the area .I have other info yet. Developing.
 
Dejan Corovic

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
It is pretty much pointless fighting UFOs with jets.

Air-to-air missiles velocity is about 3-4 Mach, while UFOs are clocked up to 15 Mach. Basically UFOs can just turn and fly away. Obviously, once you spend all missiles they can come back and ruin your day.
 
Rick Hunter

Rick Hunter

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In 1967, a UFO destroyed a Cuban MiG-21 that attempted to launch a missile at it. Apparently, the exchange was overheard by an American military listening post and attracted considerable interest from the usual snoops of CIA, AFOSI, NSA, etc.
 
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