Venezuela

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  1. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    There is already death and despair present that have already reached destabilizing levels, something must be done but it should be a world intervention not just the US...This situation did not pop up overnight, it started years ago, and started getting really bad just over two years ago, but the world ignored it thereby santioning that country to slip further into the abyss...

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  2. nivek

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    Now Venezuela's water turns BLACK: Horrified residents wake up to find their taps 'running with oil' after week-long power blackout heavily restricted the supply

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    Residents of San Diego, Venezuela, saw their water cut off amid a nationwide blackout before it returned on Wednesday - only to flow black after apparently being contaminated with crude oil. Dozens of people flooded social media with pictures and videos of a thick, black liquid running from their taps and shower heads while blasting the government for failing them yet again. The country has been suffering through a week-long power blackout that has turned off water pumps and left some areas without a supply, while patients have been dying in hospitals.

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  3. Thomas R. Morrison

    Thomas R. Morrison Autodidactic Polymath & Grand Regent of Taraka

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    And in the US:

    Scientific Study Links Flammable Drinking Water to Fracking — ProPublica

    170 Million Americans Are Drinking Radioactive Water. This Interactive Map Shows If You Are Too.

    …while the water in Flint, Michigan is still undrinkable due to lead contamination 4 1/2 years after widespread poisoning symptoms became national news:

    1,600 days on bottled water: Flint still swamped by water woes

    So should somebody invade the US?

    Nearly everything we’re hearing in the mainstream media is propaganda aimed at manufacturing consensus for another disastrous regime change operation in Venezuela, so American corporations can seize their oil for profit:

     
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  5. nivek

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    Polish reporter tells of being beaten by Venezuela police

    A Polish journalist in Venezuela was beaten by police in the troubled South American country, he said in accounts published by his newspaper and Venezuela's press union on Friday.

    The account added to a long list of allegations of brutality and arbitrary arrest of media workers in Venezuela, mostly targeting Venezuelans not working for state media but also increasingly foreign correspondents.

    Tomasz Surdel, who has been in Venezuela for two months on assignment for Poland's Gazeta Wyborcza daily, said he was grabbed by masked and armed members of the FAES special actions unit of the police in Caracas.

    The officers put a bag over his head and started hitting him with blunt objects in the head and ribs, he was cited as saying by the Venezuelan SNTP press union.

    "When they finished and removed the bag I saw a pistol barrel in front of my eyes. One of them ordered the gun to be fired in my face. The other one, laughing, pulled the trigger. The gun wasn't loaded," Surdel was quoted saying.

    The union published photos of Surdel's bloodied and bruised face.

    His newspaper emphasized that the alleged police violence occurred as Surdel was carrying out his journalistic duties.

    It urged "a strong reaction from the (Polish) foreign ministry and the Polish embassy in Caracas to the authorities" in Venezuela.

    Venezuela's political tensions are bubbling over as President Nicolas Maduro grapples with a challenge to the country's leadership from Juan Guaido, the head of the opposition-run congress who has been recognized as interim president by the US and 50 other countries.


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  6. nivek

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    You have not addressed the facts, this isn't about oil, Venezuela is nearing a total societal breakdown, there are tens of thousands of people seeking to flee that country amidst a socialist dictatorship which is an ever growing police state, there are empty store shelves in most stores, little medicine to go around, and even less social stability...Inflation is expected to be at least one million percent later this year, the value of their money isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on, people turn to a barter system because paper money is all but worthless but increasingly they have little in which to barter...Venezuela's fabric of society is tearing apart and is quickly reaching a dangerous apex of despair, starvation, and certain death for its people if something is not done to help them...

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  7. Thomas R. Morrison

    Thomas R. Morrison Autodidactic Polymath & Grand Regent of Taraka

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    This is 100% about oil. Venezuela has oil reserves twice as large as Saudi Arabia - that's why the US is trying to topple their government via sanctions that make it illegal for Venezuela to sell their oil to other nations - a crippling blow aimed at increasingly instability and violence to foment a US-sponsored revolution. This fact - that Trump and the Deep State are after the Venezuelan oil reserves - came out in Andrew McCabe's book.

    Here's what it's actually like today in Caracas, Venezuela - this footage was taken today by independent journalist Eva Bartlett who's actually there right now - it's as peaceful as ever:

    Eva Bartlett on Twitter

    Here's the video (again) about the revelation in McCabe's book, when Trump initially pitched the idea of invading Venezuela for their oil back in 2017:



    Here's what it's like in the shopping stores in Venezuela:



    Look: the entire corporate news media and every government agency told us that "we had to invade Iraq" because Saddam Hussein had WMDs. There were no WMDs in Iraq - that was just a pretext to build public consensus to invade and bomb Iraq back to the Stone Age.

    Then they did the same thing in Libya, and then Syria - lies upon lies to build a public consensus for another disastrous invasion that would leave each and every one of those nations a smoldering heap of civilian corpses.

    You're helping them do it again by promoting MSM propaganda.

    Stop doing that, or the next rash of mutilated corpses will be partly your fault.

    Yes Venezuela has its problems - the biggest one now being the US oil sanctions imposed against them, to topple their democratically elected government. We should lift those sanctions and let those people work out their own problems. The people of Venezuela don't want our brand of "help," and if you were in their shoes, you'd feel the exact same way.
     
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  8. Shadowprophet

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    Wow, I have so little to add and so much to read, Oil in their tap water. is this a freak accident or some kind of attack?
     
  9. Thomas R. Morrison

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    Given the scale of the outage, and the fact that cyberattacks on the power systems of nations the US deems adversaries has been a matter of policy for decades, it's perfectly plausible that the power outage was caused by a covert US operation to further destabilize Venezuela and to help manufacture public consensus for greater US intervention:

    Did the US Recycle a Bush-Era Plan to Take Out Venezuela’s Power Grid?

    It's virtually impossible to prove either way though. And given that the US corporate news media is always pro-war and lies constantly about everything on behalf of the US war machine, I don't see how we can arrive at a clear assessment unless a whistleblower comes forward (and since we jail and torture whistleblowers in the US, that's not likely to happen).
     
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  10. Shadowprophet

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    I could be wrong, But I've been hearing a lot of chatter in many places about how cultures are clashing and this growing cultural conflict is causing a lot of the movements and hate and violence we see, While the internet is a wonderful thing, I've wondered if this modern always connected environment has contributed to social intolerance?
     

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