Wars & Rumours of Wars

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Here is parade going live. One can strike it lucky and see Zelensky attack Red Square while all the villans are in one spot.

 

nivek

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I have been looking at X realizing how little I have been missing.

All the hopping about didn't do the North Koreans much good in Ukraine
 

nivek

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Donald Trump says India and Pakistan have agreed to ceasefire after both sides boasted of fresh military strikes

Donald Trump says India and Pakistan have agreed to a ceasefire just hours after both sides boasted of fresh military strikes. In a post on social media platform Truth Social, the US President wrote: 'After a long night of talks mediated by the United States, I am pleased to announce that India and Pakistan have agreed to a FULL AND IMMEDIATE CEASEFIRE.

'Congratulations to both Countries on using Common Sense and Great Intelligence. Thank you for your attention to this matter!'

Deputy Prime Minister of Pakistan Ishaq Dar said the two sides have agreed to the truce with immediate effect. He added: 'Pakistan has always strived for peace and security in the region, without compromising on its sovereignty and territorial integrity!'

India's Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri confirmed both India and Pakistan would 'stop all firing and military action on land, air and sea' with effect from 17.00 local time (12.30 BST).

Earlier Pakistan fired high-speed missiles at 'multiple targets' across India after it accused its neighbour of attacking air bases. India said it had responded by targeting military bases in Pakistan - in the latest escalation of the conflict between the two nuclear-armed neighbours. Pakistan's military this morning dubbed the operation Bunyan ul Marsoos – meaning unbreakable wall - as it shared a video of a missile being fired on social media.

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Over in the UFOs: skeptics, disclosure, and contact thread I have repeatedly made the assertion that we have an extremely advanced reconnaissance system that may well be the basis for the Nimitz incident, those occurring off the east coast in military training areas and possibly what the Tedesco brothers directly observed and quantified in Nightcrawler.

Is that what it is? Who the hell knows, I'm just a putz sitting in my pajamas but their behavior and predilection to appear largely in certain areas really is something worth thinking about. If you look for patterns there is one right there and just because it doesn't scream ET it's worth objectively considering.

This is a perfect example of why I believe they prefer training areas - they are 'permissive environments' and would be in no great danger of capture and examination by our adversaries, or anyone else. You use it you lose it - just like that 1999 F-117A shootdown

Chinese-Made PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Components Came Down Intact Inside India

Pakistani use of PL-15Es against Indian fighters opens up a new vector for intelligence exploitation on one of China's most threatening missiles.

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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Over in the UFOs: skeptics, disclosure, and contact thread I have repeatedly made the assertion that we have an extremely advanced reconnaissance system that may well be the basis for the Nimitz incident, those occurring off the east coast in military training areas and possibly what the Tedesco brothers directly observed and quantified in Nightcrawler.

Is that what it is? Who the hell knows, I'm just a putz sitting in my pajamas but their behavior and predilection to appear largely in certain areas really is something worth thinking about. If you look for patterns there is one right there and just because it doesn't scream ET it's worth objectively considering.

This is a perfect example of why I believe they prefer training areas - they are 'permissive environments' and would be in no great danger of capture and examination by our adversaries, or anyone else. You use it you lose it - just like that 1999 F-117A shootdown

Chinese-Made PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Components Came Down Intact Inside India

Pakistani use of PL-15Es against Indian fighters opens up a new vector for intelligence exploitation on one of China's most threatening missiles.
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Now that missile is worth its weight in gold, because US can buy it to reverse engineer IR wavelengths that it is sensitive to.

Actually some years ago i've seen a photo found on Google Earth of a back-yard in China where there was fully assembled (and painted) mocup of F-117. Its well known that the wreckage of the downed F-117 was sold to China. Maybe that's why it was discontinued.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Now that missile is worth its weight in gold, because US can buy it to reverse engineer IR wavelengths that it is sensitive to.

Actually some years ago i've seen a photo found on Google Earth of a back-yard in China where there was fully assembled (and painted) mocup of F-117. Its well known that the wreckage of the downed F-117 was sold to China. Maybe that's why it was discontinued.
I think it just got old, we certainly used them. I think the Russians figured out it's general shape - there we are hiding shapes again - by observing heat signatures left in the sand after the mock up had been removed.

Spock told that Romulan Commander he had just nailed that military secrets are the most fleeting of all .................:)
 

nivek

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Why is Putin massing troops on the border of Finland? Military build-up similar to the prelude to Ukraine war sparks alarm in NATO

Satellite images have revealed how Moscow is bulking up its military presence on the Finnish border - in a chilling echo of pictures taken of Russian bases before Putin launched his war in Ukraine.

Moscow is building troop accommodation, aircraft deployment infrastructure and refurbishing old facilities at key military bases, analysts have said, in a sign it is seeking to reinforce its capabilities in the border region.

The pictures, which were obtained by Swedish broadcaster SVT from Planet Labs, suggest there has been activity at four locations inside Russia - Kamenka, Petrozavodsk, Severomorsk-2, and Olenya.

In Kamenka, which is around 35 miles from the Finnish border and was previously undeveloped, more than 130 military tents capable of housing some 2,000 troops are said to have been set up since February.

Kremlin officials hit back at Finland and Sweden's recent accession to NATO at the time with a vague threat of 'military-technical response measures' - which now appear to be well underway.

'When we applied for NATO membership, Russia said it would take such steps. We are now seeing that happen,' Sweden's Chief of Defence Michael Claesson said.

In November 2021, US officials expressed concern over satellite images showing Russian troops massing on the border with Ukraine - a claim the Kremlin dismissed as unfounded. Less than four months later, Putin launched his full-scale war on Ukraine.

Moscow has accused NATO of acting as an aggressor rather than a defensive alliance, and has repeatedly vowed to defend itself by any means, using GPS jamming and other methods.


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AD1184

Celestial

Why is Putin massing troops on the border of Finland? Military build-up similar to the prelude to Ukraine war sparks alarm in NATO

Satellite images have revealed how Moscow is bulking up its military presence on the Finnish border - in a chilling echo of pictures taken of Russian bases before Putin launched his war in Ukraine.

Moscow is building troop accommodation, aircraft deployment infrastructure and refurbishing old facilities at key military bases, analysts have said, in a sign it is seeking to reinforce its capabilities in the border region.

The pictures, which were obtained by Swedish broadcaster SVT from Planet Labs, suggest there has been activity at four locations inside Russia - Kamenka, Petrozavodsk, Severomorsk-2, and Olenya.

In Kamenka, which is around 35 miles from the Finnish border and was previously undeveloped, more than 130 military tents capable of housing some 2,000 troops are said to have been set up since February.

Kremlin officials hit back at Finland and Sweden's recent accession to NATO at the time with a vague threat of 'military-technical response measures' - which now appear to be well underway.

'When we applied for NATO membership, Russia said it would take such steps. We are now seeing that happen,' Sweden's Chief of Defence Michael Claesson said.

In November 2021, US officials expressed concern over satellite images showing Russian troops massing on the border with Ukraine - a claim the Kremlin dismissed as unfounded. Less than four months later, Putin launched his full-scale war on Ukraine.

Moscow has accused NATO of acting as an aggressor rather than a defensive alliance, and has repeatedly vowed to defend itself by any means, using GPS jamming and other methods.
As I said at the time, Finland and Sweden joined NATO as a punitive measure against Russia, rather than a defensive one. One of the consequences of that act is that they escalated tensions with Russia, and have to live with it.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow

Why is Putin massing troops on the border of Finland? Military build-up similar to the prelude to Ukraine war sparks alarm in NATO

Satellite images have revealed how Moscow is bulking up its military presence on the Finnish border - in a chilling echo of pictures taken of Russian bases before Putin launched his war in Ukraine.

Moscow is building troop accommodation, aircraft deployment infrastructure and refurbishing old facilities at key military bases, analysts have said, in a sign it is seeking to reinforce its capabilities in the border region.

The pictures, which were obtained by Swedish broadcaster SVT from Planet Labs, suggest there has been activity at four locations inside Russia - Kamenka, Petrozavodsk, Severomorsk-2, and Olenya.

In Kamenka, which is around 35 miles from the Finnish border and was previously undeveloped, more than 130 military tents capable of housing some 2,000 troops are said to have been set up since February.

Kremlin officials hit back at Finland and Sweden's recent accession to NATO at the time with a vague threat of 'military-technical response measures' - which now appear to be well underway.

'When we applied for NATO membership, Russia said it would take such steps. We are now seeing that happen,' Sweden's Chief of Defence Michael Claesson said.

In November 2021, US officials expressed concern over satellite images showing Russian troops massing on the border with Ukraine - a claim the Kremlin dismissed as unfounded. Less than four months later, Putin launched his full-scale war on Ukraine.

Moscow has accused NATO of acting as an aggressor rather than a defensive alliance, and has repeatedly vowed to defend itself by any means, using GPS jamming and other methods.


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Russia is no match for NATO. Relatively small Ukrainian army destroyed 1/4 of Russian military gear. Just imagine what NATO would do.

Putin is mobilising 10,000 soldiers per month. He has to keep them somewhere, far enough from Ukrainian drones. So he might as well do some posturing.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Perhaps it's time for Starmer and Macron to posture for another photo op ? That should square things away immediately.
Actaully "coalition of willing" is now bordering on ridiculous with "do nothing" posturing of their own. Actually they remind me of that Sadam Husein's minister of propaganda who tried to stop allied invesion with speech full of hyperbolas.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Actaully "coalition of willing" is now bordering on ridiculous with "do nothing" posturing of their own. Actually they remind me of that Sadam Husein's minister of propaganda who tried to stop allied invesion with speech full of hyperbolas.
Baghdad Bob !

"There are no American tanks in Baghdad ...." as US infantry peered in at his press conference and Abrams tanks were out in the street rolling past .................b006
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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Old Bob would have made a better Press Secretary than Karine Jean-Pierre. Truth is, at least over here, shoveling mounds of bullshit is all part f the game but you have to be good at it.
 

nivek

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NATO Is Now Dead

NATO is a corpse. All that remains is the grotesque performance art of a diplomatic zombie stumbling from summit to summit, mouthing tired clichés about “shared values” and “burden sharing,” even as its core strategic logic lies rotting beneath the surface. The Atlantic Alliance, once the steel scaffolding of Western security, has become a hollow ritual. Its military readiness is an illusion. Its political cohesion is fraying. Its future, if it has one, lies not in revival—but in reinvention or replacement.

This is not a triumphalist declaration from the Kremlin or Beijing. It is a sober diagnosis, grounded in realism and restraint. And it should be a wake-up call in Washington, Ottawa, Berlin, and beyond.

NATO’s death was not caused by Donald Trump, though he may soon become its undertaker. Nor was it caused by Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, though that war has exposed the Alliance’s hollowness in ways no war game or communique ever could. The real cause lies in decades of European free-riding, American strategic drift, and a foundational lie at the heart of the Alliance: the idea that an empire can masquerade as a collective defense pact without consequences.

Let’s start with the numbers. Most NATO members still do not meet the 2 percent of GDP defense spending benchmark, despite years of promises and performative panic. Canada, which has taken freeloading to an art form, has shown no serious intention of meeting its obligations. As I’ve written elsewhere, Trudeau’s empty pledges mask a decaying defense industrial base, a stagnant recruiting system, and an Arctic strategy made of snow and sentiment.

Germany—the economic motor of Europe—still can’t field a combat-ready army for more than a few weeks at a time. The Bundeswehr is a shell. Its special fund is already mostly spent, and its political class remains addicted to strategic ambiguity and military minimalism. France wants “strategic autonomy” but lacks the scale and will to lead Europe alone. Poland, despite its impressive rearmament, cannot carry the continent’s defense burden on its shoulders—certainly not while Berlin dithers and Washington increasingly looks west, not east.

Meanwhile, the United States—still NATO’s military backbone—faces a fiscal cliff, a recruitment crisis, and an overstretched force posture. The era of limitless resources is over. American global primacy has ended. Multipolarity has arrived. The U.S. must now prioritize. And that means making hard choices about where its forces are truly needed—and where others must finally step up or face the consequences.

The war in Ukraine has laid these contradictions bare. NATO as an institution is not fighting the war. The United States is. Some European countries are helping—but most are hedging. NATO has been bypassed in favor of bilateral and ad hoc coalitions. Article 5 hasn’t been tested, and it may never be. The idea that NATO is “more united than ever” is a comforting fiction, trotted out to conceal the fact that the Alliance can no longer mount a serious, conventional defense of Europe without massive and prolonged American escalation.

Even the so-called Nordic expansion—Sweden and Finland joining NATO—has not changed the equation. It’s a strategic sideshow. Unless Europe can build up a credible, conventional deterrent in the East, without expecting Washington to always bail it out, the Alliance will remain a Potemkin village: flags, acronyms, and summits without substance.

Trump’s likely return to the White House in 2025 should not be viewed as a cataclysm but as an overdue reckoning. He will not end NATO. He will force Europe to decide whether it is willing to pay for its own defense or not. He will not blow up the Alliance. He will make it answer for its contradictions. And that, frankly, is what a serious ally should do.

Some critics will scream that this is the death knell of the “rules-based international order.” But the order they mourn was already breaking down—long before Trump, long before Ukraine, long before Brexit or Crimea. What we are witnessing is not a collapse but a transition: from the illusion of Atlanticism to the reality of multipolarity. And NATO, if it is to matter at all in this new world, must either become a true European-led military alliance with American support—or fade into history like SEATO and CENTO before it.

This doesn’t mean abandoning Europe to Russian domination. It means telling uncomfortable truths. Europe is rich. Europe is populous. Europe is not helpless. The United States can and should support its European allies—but it should not subsidize their illusions indefinitely. A more self-reliant Europe is not a threat to American interests; it is a precondition for strategic focus on the North Pacific, the Arctic, and the Western Hemisphere—where the real contests of the 21st century will be decided.

In my writing here and elsewhere, I have repeatedly argued that Canada must stop pretending it is a global power and start acting like what it is: a North Pacific, Arctic, and North Atlantic state. That means prioritizing regional defense, rebuilding naval and aerospace capabilities, and getting serious about continental defense. NATO is not the vehicle for that anymore—if it ever was. For Canada, continuing to hide behind NATO rhetoric while failing to meet even the most basic obligations is not only cowardly—it is dangerous.

A dead NATO still carries risks. Strategic ambiguity, brittle expectations, and performative deterrence are a recipe for miscalculation. The Alliance’s political leadership must either acknowledge the need for transformation or risk a future crisis that reveals, in real time and in blood, what we already know: that the emperor has no tanks.

The solution is not sentimental nostalgia. It is clear-eyed realism. NATO in its current form is not worth saving. But its core idea—collective defense among likeminded powers—still has value. What’s needed is a reset: a reimagined Euro-Atlantic security framework led by capable European states, with American support but not American dominance. A NATO that deters by capability, not by assumption. A NATO that can say no as well as yes. A NATO, in short, that lives in the real world.

The alternative is strategic decay. A slow slide into irrelevance. More summits, more selfies, more hollow communiqués. Until, one day, NATO doesn’t die with a bang—but with a bureaucratic whimper.

That future is already here. NATO is dead. The only question now is what comes next—and whether we have the courage to build it.


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AD1184

Celestial

NATO Is Now Dead

NATO is a corpse. All that remains is the grotesque performance art of a diplomatic zombie stumbling from summit to summit, mouthing tired clichés about “shared values” and “burden sharing,” even as its core strategic logic lies rotting beneath the surface. The Atlantic Alliance, once the steel scaffolding of Western security, has become a hollow ritual. Its military readiness is an illusion. Its political cohesion is fraying. Its future, if it has one, lies not in revival—but in reinvention or replacement.

This is not a triumphalist declaration from the Kremlin or Beijing. It is a sober diagnosis, grounded in realism and restraint. And it should be a wake-up call in Washington, Ottawa, Berlin, and beyond.

NATO’s death was not caused by Donald Trump, though he may soon become its undertaker. Nor was it caused by Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, though that war has exposed the Alliance’s hollowness in ways no war game or communique ever could. The real cause lies in decades of European free-riding, American strategic drift, and a foundational lie at the heart of the Alliance: the idea that an empire can masquerade as a collective defense pact without consequences.

Let’s start with the numbers. Most NATO members still do not meet the 2 percent of GDP defense spending benchmark, despite years of promises and performative panic. Canada, which has taken freeloading to an art form, has shown no serious intention of meeting its obligations. As I’ve written elsewhere, Trudeau’s empty pledges mask a decaying defense industrial base, a stagnant recruiting system, and an Arctic strategy made of snow and sentiment.

Germany—the economic motor of Europe—still can’t field a combat-ready army for more than a few weeks at a time. The Bundeswehr is a shell. Its special fund is already mostly spent, and its political class remains addicted to strategic ambiguity and military minimalism. France wants “strategic autonomy” but lacks the scale and will to lead Europe alone. Poland, despite its impressive rearmament, cannot carry the continent’s defense burden on its shoulders—certainly not while Berlin dithers and Washington increasingly looks west, not east.

Meanwhile, the United States—still NATO’s military backbone—faces a fiscal cliff, a recruitment crisis, and an overstretched force posture. The era of limitless resources is over. American global primacy has ended. Multipolarity has arrived. The U.S. must now prioritize. And that means making hard choices about where its forces are truly needed—and where others must finally step up or face the consequences.

The war in Ukraine has laid these contradictions bare. NATO as an institution is not fighting the war. The United States is. Some European countries are helping—but most are hedging. NATO has been bypassed in favor of bilateral and ad hoc coalitions. Article 5 hasn’t been tested, and it may never be. The idea that NATO is “more united than ever” is a comforting fiction, trotted out to conceal the fact that the Alliance can no longer mount a serious, conventional defense of Europe without massive and prolonged American escalation.

Even the so-called Nordic expansion—Sweden and Finland joining NATO—has not changed the equation. It’s a strategic sideshow. Unless Europe can build up a credible, conventional deterrent in the East, without expecting Washington to always bail it out, the Alliance will remain a Potemkin village: flags, acronyms, and summits without substance.

Trump’s likely return to the White House in 2025 should not be viewed as a cataclysm but as an overdue reckoning. He will not end NATO. He will force Europe to decide whether it is willing to pay for its own defense or not. He will not blow up the Alliance. He will make it answer for its contradictions. And that, frankly, is what a serious ally should do.

Some critics will scream that this is the death knell of the “rules-based international order.” But the order they mourn was already breaking down—long before Trump, long before Ukraine, long before Brexit or Crimea. What we are witnessing is not a collapse but a transition: from the illusion of Atlanticism to the reality of multipolarity. And NATO, if it is to matter at all in this new world, must either become a true European-led military alliance with American support—or fade into history like SEATO and CENTO before it.

This doesn’t mean abandoning Europe to Russian domination. It means telling uncomfortable truths. Europe is rich. Europe is populous. Europe is not helpless. The United States can and should support its European allies—but it should not subsidize their illusions indefinitely. A more self-reliant Europe is not a threat to American interests; it is a precondition for strategic focus on the North Pacific, the Arctic, and the Western Hemisphere—where the real contests of the 21st century will be decided.

In my writing here and elsewhere, I have repeatedly argued that Canada must stop pretending it is a global power and start acting like what it is: a North Pacific, Arctic, and North Atlantic state. That means prioritizing regional defense, rebuilding naval and aerospace capabilities, and getting serious about continental defense. NATO is not the vehicle for that anymore—if it ever was. For Canada, continuing to hide behind NATO rhetoric while failing to meet even the most basic obligations is not only cowardly—it is dangerous.

A dead NATO still carries risks. Strategic ambiguity, brittle expectations, and performative deterrence are a recipe for miscalculation. The Alliance’s political leadership must either acknowledge the need for transformation or risk a future crisis that reveals, in real time and in blood, what we already know: that the emperor has no tanks.

The solution is not sentimental nostalgia. It is clear-eyed realism. NATO in its current form is not worth saving. But its core idea—collective defense among likeminded powers—still has value. What’s needed is a reset: a reimagined Euro-Atlantic security framework led by capable European states, with American support but not American dominance. A NATO that deters by capability, not by assumption. A NATO that can say no as well as yes. A NATO, in short, that lives in the real world.

The alternative is strategic decay. A slow slide into irrelevance. More summits, more selfies, more hollow communiqués. Until, one day, NATO doesn’t die with a bang—but with a bureaucratic whimper.

That future is already here. NATO is dead. The only question now is what comes next—and whether we have the courage to build it.


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I don't know if anyone else has the same problem, but MSN.com links do not work for me in the Firefox, or Brave browsers. It might be something to do with my location. MSN is a news aggregator, though, and here is the original source for that article:

 

nivek

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MSN.com links do not work for me in the Firefox, or Brave browsers. It might be something to do with my location.

Must be due to your location as I used Firefox to read and post that...

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