Wars & Rumours of Wars

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  1. nivek

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    Putin will stage 'false flag' attack on his OWN troops as an excuse to invade Ukraine, US intelligence warns: Russia's 'sabotage plan' revealed as Moscow sends MORE troops to the border and Kiev is hit with massive cyber attack

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    The US has intelligence that Russia is planning a 'false-flag' operation on its own forces in eastern Ukraine to create a pretext for invasion. Officials on Friday also said they believed Russia was mounting a social media disinformation campaign to portray Ukraine as the aggressor. The update, making the prospect of military conflict more immediate, came as Ukrainian government websites were taken offline in a 'massive' cyberattack, talks between Washington and Moscow collapsed and Russia held a combat readiness inspection of their troops.

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  2. pigfarmer

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    Germany did that September 1 1939 to Poland
     
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  3. wwkirk

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    Likewise Japan.
     
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  4. nivek

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    Fears and fighting spirit of a nation in Kremlin crosshairs: IAN BIRRELL reports from inside Ukraine as experts warn Russian invasion is imminent

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    Like many families in Kiev, mother and entrepreneur Oksana Lanskaya has friends who lost everything when they fled their homes in 2014 as Vladimir Putin annexed Crimea and stirred up separatist insurgency in eastern Ukraine. 'Should I just close my business now and sell everything while it's still not too late?' she asked. No-one outside the Kremlin can answer that question. But this fretful woman shows how the mood in Kiev is growing worried with a majority of Ukraine's 44million population believing an attack seems likely and citizen militias preparing for guerrilla warfare against invading forces. Oksana is a realist and frightened that history is set to repeat itself. 'Ukraine has little chance against Russia. Our soldiers will fight but they will be outnumbered. Also, the West will not go at war with Russia over Ukraine. We'll be left to face Russian tanks alone once again, like in 2014.' This time, however, Ukrainian forces are substantially stronger and better equipped - boosted by Britain's supply of short-range anti-tank missiles for self-defence and some troops to provide training. Military analyst Yuriy Butusov said support from the UK was significant, adding: 'Putin has to face the facts. London showed Moscow that in the event of full-scale hostilities, Ukraine will be provided with emergency assistance with weapons.'

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  5. nivek

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    Six Russian landing ships sail past Britain sparking speculation they are bound for impending 'full-scale invasion' of Ukraine as Kiev warns Putin has 'nearly completed' troop build-up

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    Russia's Baltic Fleet vessels the Korolev, Minsk (left) and Kaliningrad were today sailing south past the UK followed by Northern Fleet warships Olenegorsky Gornyak, Pyotr Morgunov, (bottom right) and Georgii Pobedonosets which passed the Great Belt Bridge in Denmark on Monday. The ships, which can each carry up to 25 armoured personnel carriers, were deployed three days ago but it remains unclear if they are heading for Ukraine. (top right) The region has been on a knife-edge since the end of last year when Moscow moved as many as 100,000 troops, as well as tanks and missiles, close to the border. Ukrainian Defense Ministry's latest intelligence assessment yesterday warned Russia had massed more than 127,000 troops along the border, together with a sea and component that marked a 'full strength' force. The assessment, seen by CNN , described the situation as 'difficult' and warned Russian President Vladimir Putin was 'trying to split and weaken the European Union and NATO' while also 'limiting the capabilities of the United States... to ensure security on the European continent'. The stark warning comes after two rounds of last ditch talks between the West and Russia failed to de-escalate the conflict which has threatened to bubble over since late last year.

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  6. AD1184

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    This is a problem of the west's own making. I just hope that the British government has the good sense to stay out of it, as we have no interests to uphold in Ukraine.
     
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  7. nivek

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    I really hope the American government doesn't get anymore involved than they are already but I doubt that will happen...Without knowing all of the particulars of what started all this, I think this is a EU & Russian problem, let them sort it out and keep our noses out of it...If there is to be a battle then the Germans and the French should send in their armies...

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  9. michael59

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    We almost lost Clapton's talent to the vaccine. He couldn't use his arms and hands for over 6 months. He's still having issues.
     
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  10. michael59

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    Does that include the little girls being kidnapped and raped by Taliban? They don't stand a chance against men, let alone men with guns.
     
  11. wwkirk

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    In most cultures, men protect women and girls. I'm not sure how that works under Islam in general, or in Afghanistan in particular.

    Although I wrote that a long time ago, I'm sure that was part of what I intended, along with the general premise that a people - primarily, though not exclusively, the men - have to fight to preserve their own freedom and integrity.

    Apropos, an excerpt from a song I find very inspiring goes like this:

    Blest Isle! With matchless beauty crown'd,
    And manly hearts to guard the fair.
     
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  12. michael59

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    I think the entire world should get involved now and stop the Taliban dead in their tracks.

    It's a matter of not letting history repeat itself. The Taliban have absolutely no intention of stopping once they have complete control of Afghanistan. They will just continue to encroach like Hitler did.

    It is in the best interest of the entire world to stop them now.
     
  13. michael59

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    You know the unfathomable truth is that Biden's order to remove Americans out of Afghanistan, with the intention being for the 20th anniversary of the twin towers, is costing triple the amount of danger to American lives in Afghanistan. This could ultimately mean that more lives are lost than were lost in the Towers. Biden must be aware of this fact. Surely someone has mentioned this fact to him.
     
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  14. pigfarmer

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    Capable - yes. Some modernization but what most see as an impressive line of warships is really more like a classic car parade. Old Soviet stuff. It's expensive for them to deploy all that and keep it active, so whatever they are about to do it shouldn't be long.
     
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  15. michael59

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    We really need an LOL appreciation option, Nivek.
     
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    You mean in the USA, right? Because there are dozens of examples throughout history of this type of crisis happening.

    I want to apologize to you, Wwkirk because I am unfairly putting you on the spot for postings made that I should have responded to much sooner, to be fair. I'm only getting to this thread now and I am only on page 8 of 23.

    Sorry. x24
     
  17. michael59

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    This looks so juicy. lol

    I can hardly wait til I get my new computer and can finally update browser and watch all these other forms of media beside just relying on youtube. I've been stranded since just after Christmas with first the car freezing shut and then no battery.
     
  18. michael59

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    People get banned or demonetized daily for stupid things like swearing or showing graphic images like animals being abused or using trigger words like domestic violence....

    But, hey if your a terrorist, welcome to social media, open your account today!
     
  19. michael59

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    I don't know how you do it but, you come up with some of the most thorough and intelligent posts that I have ever had the pleasure of reading. You're very good at this.

    b0044 Thank you.
     
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  20. michael59

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    :shock:

    Did this happen? Google says it was a hoax but that does not nessarily mean it was.
     

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