Was Epstein Suicided?

AlienView

Noble
I used to study, for interest and entertainment, organized crime {If you like that kind of stuff don't miss
the new movie "The Irishman" on Jimmy Hoffa, its a masterpiece}.

At any rate way back when, 1930s or 40s, there was a famous racketeer, Abe Reles {not sure of spelling}
who the government had locked up as a witness in a mob case and he was under 24/7 protection.

Long story short, he ended up jumping or falling out the window of where he was locked up
- And the famous quote: "Abe Reles, the canary who could sing like a bird but couldn't fly like one" was coined.

Point being, Epstein had to be silenced - the first attempted suicide was probably a fake attempt
- but the second one was most probably murder - 'They' could not take the chance of him singing
- And how do they let the most important criminal in America kill himself anyway?
- They help him do it !
 

nivek

As Above So Below

nivek

As Above So Below
PICTURED: Bill Clinton poses with Jeffrey Epstein's 'madam' Ghislaine Maxwell and relaxes with a cigar on board pedophile's infamous 'Lolita Express' private jet along with Kevin Spacey


New photos picture former President Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged ‘madam’ Ghislaine Maxwell together on board the billionaire’s private jet, dubbed the Lolita Express (top left). Clinton is also seen lounging on the jet, smoking a cigar and reading a newspaper (bottom center). They were accompanied by actor Kevin Spacey (top inset and bottom right) and comedian Chris Tucker on a five-day humanitarian trip to Africa in 2002 (bottom left). Epstein's personal masseuse, Chauntae Davies, 40 (bottom inset, with Epstein, and top right, with Clinton), who played the role of air-hostess, recounted the trip in an exclusive interview with The Sun. She said Clinton was a 'complete gentleman' throughout the trip and that no misconduct occurred around him. There is no evidence to suggest Clinton, Tucker or Spacey engaged in any sexual activities when they flew on the plane or that they knew of Epstein's crimes.

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AlienView

Noble
I would suggest, but cannot prove, that there is a highly clandestine government agency in the US and elsewhere, that arranges the death of persons who may damage people inside of government - and throughout the elite ruling class who are protected by 'them'.

Now apparently the video tapes from Epstein's jail cell have 'disappeared' !!!

I would not compare Epstein with JFK except to say, like Kennedy, the truth will never be revealed.

To understand this is to understand the truth - As 'they' want you to see it !

The only question is - Do they work from within agencies of government
- Or are they a separate 'New World Order' group ?

I would also suggest - You don't really want to know - As once you are in, there is no way out !
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Jeffrey Epstein had burst capillaries in his eyeballs when he died which suggests he was STRANGLED, pathologist tells Dr. Oz



WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT: In an exclusive clip from a Dr. Oz special set to air on Thursday, pathologist Dr. Michael Baden examines photographs of Epstein's eyes. Dr. Baden was among physicians in the room when Epstein's autopsy took place. He says it is highly unusual that the cause of his death went from being undetermined - when it was first ruled - to suicide by hanging five days later. He said he believes there are many 'red flags' which suggest he was murdered and did not kill himself. Chief among them are the burst capillaries and the fact that the color in his lower legs was pale and not purple or blueish which, he says, would have likely been the case had he hung himself from his bunk bed as officials say he did.

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
We were cheated.

I'd prefer to have Epstein alive and well - and strapped to a sheet of plywood out in the middle of a field. Then I would like to have Harvey Weinstein dropped from a great height directly on top of him.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
It always amazes me when these guys like Weinstein get caught being crude human beings. It never fails, they suddenly get sick. Whether it is cancer or some crippling disease. Here comes Weinstein into the courtroom using a walker and looking unkempt. I wish someone would call out these characters and have them submit to an extensive physical exam and get to the bottom of all these so-called ailments.
 

AlienView

Noble
It always amazes me when these guys like Weinstein get caught being crude human beings. It never fails, they suddenly get sick. Whether it is cancer or some crippling disease. Here comes Weinstein into the courtroom using a walker and looking unkempt. I wish someone would call out these characters and have them submit to an extensive physical exam and get to the bottom of all these so-called ailments.
It also amazes me how we have become a nation that is willing to convict anyone if the media says they are
guilty - Not to say characters like Epstein and Weinstein are innocent - They might be as guilty as sin.
But supposedly under our legal system one is innocent until proven guilty.
Again, not that I still like Donald Trump - But its funny how one women popped up saying something about him and suddenly there was a chorus line waiting to convict him of something
- Seems to me the Impeachment is act II.
There is a whole bunch of men of power that lately are being accused of some sort of unwanted sexual advance from women in their past - Obviously some, say like Bill Cosby, are probably guilty.
But I wonder if the world has gone so far into an anti-male type of feminism that a successful media
publisher such as Hugh Hefner {Playboy Magazine} in today's world would be found guilty of abusing women, even though he made many women rich and famous. Harvey Weinstein claims the same thing about helping the career of many women - But then again he has already been found guilty by the media, right?
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
It also amazes me how we have become a nation that is willing to convict anyone if the media says they are
guilty - Not to say characters like Epstein and Weinstein are innocent - They might be as guilty as sin.
But supposedly under our legal system one is innocent until proven guilty.
Again, not that I still like Donald Trump - But its funny how one women popped up saying something about him and suddenly there was chorus line waiting to convict him of something - Seems to me the Impeachment is act II.
There is whole bunch of men of power that lately are being accused of some sort of unwanted sexual advance from women in their past - Obviously some, say like Bill Cosby, are probably guilty.
But I wonder if the world has gone so far into an anti-male type of feminism that a successful media
publisher such as Hugh Hefner {Playboy Magazine} in today's world would be found guilty of abusing women, even though he made many women rich and famous. Harvey Weinstein claims the same thing about helping the career of many women - But then again he has already been found guilty by the media, right?

in the good old days we'd just lynch the bastard and hope we got the right guy
 

nivek

As Above So Below
in the good old days we'd just lynch the bastard and hope we got the right guy
Its also a bit different in its formalities than that of hanging a man, in some cases lynching sometimes involves finding the closest tree...
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“Hanging one scoundrel, it appears, does not deter the next. Well, what of it? The first one is at least disposed of."
- H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)


George Maledon of Judge Parker’s court in Ft. Smith hanged at least 60 but he was an exception.

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Lynchings & Hangings of America – Page 2 – Legends of America
In June 1851, an Australian with a bad reputation became the first victim of San Francisco’s”vigilance” committee. Caught in the act of stealing a safe, Jenkins, along with three other Australians from Sydney, were subjected to a mock trial, then marched to San Francisco’s Custom House, where they all had nooses put around their necks and were hanged on the spot. A second San Francisco “vigilance” committee formed in 1856 and lynched two men, James P. Casey and Charles Cora. Casey had shot and killed a newspaper editor named James King who had been bolding assaulting evildoers in his newspaper. Charles Cora, an Italian gambler, had shot and killed a U.S. marshal named Richardson in November 1855.
A mob of about 6,000 persons either helped to perpetrate or witnessed the lynching of the two men. Casey and Cora were seized and hanged from projecting beams rigged on the roof of a building on Sacramento Street.

Before the mob dissipated, two more unidentified men were hung from the beams for unknown reasons. :ohmy8::Whistle:


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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Before the mob dissipated, two more unidentified men were hung from the beams for unknown reasons.

Just being careful. Since they went through all the trouble it would be a shame to have to go back twice.

Oh. THAT Judge Parker. I'd like to think these things used to be much simpler.

 

nivek

As Above So Below
The remake isn't bad either, even had a proper hanging (x3)...:Whistle:

"I see men out there in that crowd is worse than me." (57 seconds in)

 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
The remake isn't bad either, even had a proper hanging (x3)...:Whistle:

"I see men out there in that crowd is worse than me." (57 seconds in)



The book is worth a look too even if you've seen the movie too many times. I was surprised how much dialogue was directly lifted for the first movie. The more recent version is much closer to the book.
 
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