Was Jesus a Buddhist?

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  1. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Indeed, Christ did not personally begin Christianity, Buddha did not personally start Buddhism, they were created by people who wanted to be like those two men and cherished and preserved all their words and movements in life, men such as these, if they did what history claims they did, care nothing for organized movements and would disband any that were formed in their names...If these two men were as we know them to be through word of mouth and written records, then they were indeed remarkable men...
     
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  2. Rikki

    Rikki High Priestess

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    Jesus was not Buddhist.

    He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.” The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That’s enough!” he replied.

    — Gospel of Luke 22:36-38, NIV
    12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.

    15 On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’ But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’
    This shows Jesus was Human and flawed. Jesus also ordered his followers to steal a horse.
    Luke 19:29-34 "[Jesus] sent two of his disciples, Saying, Go ye into the village . . . ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither. And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him. . . . And as they were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose ye the colt? And they said, The Lord hath need of him." (parallels in Matthew)
    This alone shows Jesus was not Buddhist. Or the Christ.
    Blessed Be
    Rikki
     
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  3. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    As I get older, I begin to think about Religion and the basic sub message it seems to teach others. Religion seems to adapt to cultural regions, But when you really look past all of this, Religion pushes this same message to human culture, it tells this basic story to every region in every language. You are not alone, There is a creator, Follow X spiritual path, Attain a greater afterlife. Perhaps this message was from a higher race of beings at one point in our history, Who really knows. Think about it. When watered down isn't this what every religion teaches?

    What I find odd about it all is, This original message, Does seem to be as old as human understanding.
     
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  4. Zeke

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    For whatever it's worth, here are some explanations for these biblical references you cite. There is a lot more detail even but not allowed to copy and paste, copying few relevant snippets from The Second Coming of Christ.


    Here looks like he got his disciples to carry swords in order to fulfill one of a long list of requirements for the Messiah listed in the Torah. So no one got hurt or slashed here, but you reference it as indicating him arming his crew to kill or maim people? It is explained in the verse the reason. Anyway, in extension to the sword reference, from what I've read in the Second Coming account a 'sword of discrimination or wisdom' is required to make progress and cut through delusion.


    "Great prophets, though they are internally free from anger, may use semblance of anger to admonish and correct those who respond more to fear vibrations than to love vibrations.. There is a spiritual lesson in the above act of Jesus. The temple of mind, during prayer, should not be a place where the thoughts of material gain persist.. Many people, during prayer, carry in the background of their minds the thought of buying and selling of material things and the profit thereof...

    Jesus, in this act, tried to show people that they should concentrate on one thing at a time. In the house of business they should think of selling articles. In the House of God they should think of Him. Besides, Jesus, with his little cord, didn't hurt anyone nor was he actually angry internally."


    Not sure why he made this particular tree unable to bare fruit ever again, but other references to fig tree relate a deeper meaning. "Jesus said to Nathaniel: "I saw thee under the fig tree" (I saw thy soul under the nerve branches of the cerebro-spinal tree.) Jesus, by his Spiritual Eye saw Nathanial's soul resting under the astral nervous system (fig tree). Man's body is an upturned tree with roots of hair and cranial nerves at the base of the trunk of the spinal tree of life, shooting out branches of the nervous sytem..


    Apparently Jesus' entry to Jerusalem on a donkey may have symbolized his entry as the Prince of Peace, not as a warmongering king.

    In order to execute the plan for him by "God" he needed all these things, as part of an outward drama for internal "salvation". I don't think he killed or beat up people, your citations here attempt to completely discredit or debunk him for acquiring swords or stealing (borrowing?) a donkey.

    Technically "buddha" means "awakened one" so if the person of Jesus (Christ or Nazareth) was "awakened" then he was by definition a buddha. Their routes, drastically different in outer form though. One guy leaves his family to sit under a tree, other guy shows up to be arrested and crucified and killed. Buddha and Jesus did not go the same outer route, nor do any of the "religions" that is true.

    Remember also the Hindu (Bhagavad Gita) is based on going to battle and killing your family members! There's an inner battle within everyone going on, needs to be fought and won, eventually. These things only make sense in light of deeper meanings as listed above.

    Religion is not some made up bullshit someone pulled out of their ass, it's based on real stuff at core of existence, expressed in unique ways.
     
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  5. Rikki

    Rikki High Priestess

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    And he looked around at them with anger, grieved at their hardness of heart, Mark 3;5.

    "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law, justice and mercy and faith; these you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel! ... Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within they are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness."

    And he entered the temple and began to drive out those who sold and those who bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons; and he would not allow any one to carry anything through the temple.

    Sounds like he was angry .
    Blessed Be
    Rikki
     
  6. Zeke

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    Jesus called his disciples to him and said, “I have compassion for these people; they have already been with me three days and have nothing to eat. I do not want to send them away hungry, or they may collapse on the way.”

    His disciples answered, “Where could we get enough bread in this remote place to feed such a crowd?”

    “How many loaves do you have?” Jesus asked.

    “Seven,” they replied, “and a few small fish.”

    He told the crowd to sit down on the ground. Then he took the seven loaves and the fish, and when he had given thanks, he broke them and gave them to the disciples, and they in turn to the people. They all ate and were satisfied. Afterward the disciples picked up seven basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. The number of those who ate was four thousand men, besides women and children." -Matthew 15

    Yes very angry guy all around. /s
     
  7. Rikki

    Rikki High Priestess

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    I have begun more searching into this topic. if what this article is true Jesus in his last incantation was THE Buddha!
    This fits well as Jesus had reached a state of Enlightenment. But being a human he also showed all the flaws of a man.
    Jesus and the Buddha one in the same?
    Buddha as a Past Life of Jesus Christ

    Blessed Be
    Rikki
     
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  8. aNorthernSoul

    aNorthernSoul Adept

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    I think you are approaching this backwards. It's a chicken or the egg thing. Jesus made some claims and laid out some instructions. Modern day philosophies have adopted some of those and have perverted others. I guess, that's if you believe he even existed in the first place. We know David did so I believe Jesus did, personally.
     
  9. aNorthernSoul

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    I don't mean to be rude but where do you get here? His last incantation or incarnation? These are important points. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he born before Christ? If anything, I would slot Buddha as a Nephilim, it ticks all the boxes.
     
  10. Rikki

    Rikki High Priestess

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    The Buddha died around 400 BCE. His enlightened soul went to the highest places of the summer lands for rest. He spent his time in deep meditation. He began to prepare himself for a greater work. And he returned to his last incarnation.
    His final turn upon the wheel of life. He was born Yoshua Ben Yossef. He grew up in humble surroundings. He began to teach. We call him today Jesus.
    Nephilim: there are two translations to the word.
    1. Giant. (from wiki)
    Most of the contemporary English translations of the Genesis 6:1-4 and Numbers 13:33 render the Heb. nefilim as "giants". This tendency in turn stems from the fact that one of the earliest translation of the Hebrew Bible, the Septuagint composed in III/II century BCE, renders the said word as gigantes. The choice made by the Greek translators has been later adopted into the Latin translation, Vulgate, compiled in IV/V century CE, which uses the transcription of the Greek term rather than the literal translation of the Heb. nefilim. From there, the tradition of the giant progeny of the sons of God and the daughters of men spread to later medieval translations of the Bible.
    2. fallen (from Wiki)

    All early sources refer to the "sons of heaven" as angels. From the third century BCE onwards, references are found in the Enochic literature, the Dead Sea Scrolls (the Genesis Apocryphon, the Damascus Document, 4Q180), Jubilees, the Testament of Reuben, 2 Baruch, Josephus, and the book of Jude (compare with 2 Peter 2). For example: 1 Enoch 7:2 "And when the angels, (3) the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children." Some Christian apologists, such as Tertullian and especially Lactantius, shared this opinion.

    The earliest statement in a secondary commentary explicitly interpreting this to mean that angelic beings mated with humans can be traced to the rabbinical Targum Pseudo-Jonathan and it has since become especially commonplace in modern-day Christian commentaries. This line of interpretation finds additional support in the text of Genesis 6:4 which juxtaposes the sons of God (male gender, divine nature) with the daughters of men (female gender, human nature). From this parallelism it could be inferred that the sons of God are understood as some superhuman beings.[21]

    The New American Bible commentary draws a parallel to the Epistle of Jude and the statements set forth in Genesis, suggesting that the Epistle refers implicitly to the paternity of Nephilim as heavenly beings who came to earth and had sexual intercourse with women.[22] The footnotes of the Jerusalem Bible suggest that the biblical author intended the Nephilim to be an "anecdote of a superhuman race".[23]

    Some Christian commentators have argued against this view, citing Jesus's statement that angels do not marry.[24] Others believe that Jesus was only referring to angels in heaven.[25]

    Evidence cited in favor of the fallen angels interpretation includes the fact that the phrase "the sons of God" (Hebrew: בְּנֵי הָֽאֱלֹהִים‬; or "sons of the gods") is used twice outside of Genesis chapter 6, in the Book of Job (1:6 and 2:1) where the phrase explicitly references angels. The Septuagint manuscript Codex Alexandrinus reading of Genesis 6:2 renders this phrase as "the angels of God" while Codex Vaticanus reads "sons".[26]

    Targum Pseudo-Jonathan identifies the Nephilim as Shemihaza and the angels in the name list from 1 Enoch.[27]

    so when using the word do you mean a giant? or a fallen Angel? And do you hold the bible is true and correct in all matters? Do you think the bible is a true account of all things? I could discuss the Bible in great detail but I will choose not to. Let us say there is truth in the Bible. As well as other holy books.
    Blessed Be
    Rikki
     

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