What are Dreams.

Discussion in 'Perceptions & Experiences' started by Shadowprophet, Jul 27, 2018.

  1. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet N=R^.fp.ne.f1.fi.fc.L

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    I've been really sick lately. So much so I've slept for the better part of four days. Today. Is a wonderful Day. I'm not in any pain. I have that feeling of relief like I was in pain, And now I'm not. To put all of that aside. I have incredibly strange dreams. Not just this time, But Any time I remember a dream, There is a weird feeling Like I'm somewhere Else. I will see people I know In places I don't know But these people that I know they are different somehow. In many cases, they seem to know me too and yet they are somehow different then I know them. Recently. I had a dream that struck me as odd. I was with my Ex we were at some kind of theme park with rides and water slides and such, It bothered me because instantly, I had the thought that. Wait a minute. I left this woman me and she shouldn't be together. I pick up my phone to see the date as April 23rd, 2019, I was confused and angry. Surely I would have never gotten back with this woman, There was someone Who I needed to call, But I couldn't remember my wife in the dream. I knew there was another woman, I needed very much to speak to, But I couldn't remember her. I checked my phone again. There were texts from my ex that I was apparently with and even my Ex-wife. So I excuse myself and then Hop on a bus. Which takes me directly to my ex-wife. Even then, I knew she wasn't the person I needed to talk too, I just couldn't remember. So I ran. Then I ran into my father. Who was at least twenty years younger then he is. He knew me, But not as his son, He just knew me as Darren. And was generally friendly toward me.

    It's one thing when dreams are just events that play out. But sometimes there is a lot of surrealism and emotion. It's like it's really happening. The taste, the smell the feel, It's all like it's really happening. This link is one of many Can Dreams Offer Glimpses into Alternate Realities? It, Along with countless other. Suggests that there is something more to dreams than just events our minds create to keep us entertained. Some people believe there is an infinite parallel And while. I'm not mentally connected to you in some parallel universe. That I am in some sort of Quantum mental way connected to myself in that other place. And the beings there wouldn't know the difference, and for some reason. Neither would we, Other than. something was different and odd.

    So my question is. Is the mind connected in some ununderstood way, to parallel versions of ourselves? When we Dream. Are we simply experiencing another reality, of another version of ourselves? What are your thoughts on this guys?
     
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  2. Rikki

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    Sometime we see what could have been or could be.
    I seen my life unwind in dreams. I never met Bob. I never had my kids.
    Or I married different. Or never married at all.
    I seen myself die. I seen the accident where Ian broke his arm play out when my son was hurt badly or died. There are realms and realities. I visit the fay realm. The shadow realm, where dark things live. The light realm where all blessings flow
    Dreams are doorways to lives and places beyond.
    Blessed Be
    Rikki
     
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  3. Gambeir

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    All humans are connected mentally because humans are the consciousness of Universe. All thoughts, experience, and knowledge is available while in an incorporeal state: In death all knowledge and all experience is known and knowable. In dreams we can, at times, access this ocean of consciousness.

    First we must understand the primary consciousness which we call ourselves before we begin to understand and make sense of the unconscious connection to Universe.

    My experience with dreams is that there are basically two kinds. One is the problem resolution entertainment dream. This is the most common form of dreaming. Dreams are formed in a visual format which is disconnected from the otherwise completely overbearing conscious side. That side which we refer to as the Ego, which is a pathological liar, and which must dominate all consciousness and considers itself infallible.

    The pathological nature of our own conscious mind has been adequately demonstrated, so to think otherwise is once more only another delusional lie, one that your own conscious~awareness creates to deny it's own failings. For that reason and only in the dream state can the consciousness be taken to task by the unconscious mind. You have two complete brains and two minds; it's only the ruler of consciousness who thinks otherwise.

    Our unconsciousness mind is the complete opposite and pathologically truthful; it see's all, never misses anything, and shoves the crimes of the conscious mind in it's face when it cannot fight back with denials. However, this side of the mind is not a verbal side and it's communications are almost exclusively visual.

    In the problem resolution entertainment dream the communication is allegorical with visual symbolism. In most cases this form of communication is aimed at resolving or explaining a problem or conflict encountered by the conscious mind. Keep in mind that your conscious mind is basically insane to all other outside viewers, all of whom are themselves insane as well, but don't know it. So consciousness constantly creates problems for itself because it is the home of the self consuming self. Freud called this the Ego. Our consciousness is mainly composed of this egotistical person, and that is actually who we are, and we cannot escape the delusional state of mind that most of live in most of the time. Understanding this may help to understand why humans can be so easily mind controlled.

    You see, in our dream state is a the truth state, it is a non~verbal side which has very little vocabulary skills so it mainly communicates with images, but our conscious side of the mind is mostly verbal and to it the images are understood but denied because it is absolutely certain it is in complete control. For this reason it only seems irrational to the conscious mind because it denies that anyone but itself controls the mind. We know this is how it works without any question: It is a axiom that any time the conscious mind denies the desires of the unconscious mind the end result will manifest a psychological pathology; eventually leading to a manifest crack of insanity. So now we understand our own insane consciousness: Goes a long ways to explain human craziness and the dumbass moves you've made in your life huh?

    Unconsciousness is the awareness of Universe, it is the link which gives life to consciousness, which of course consciousness will deny. However, when our unconsciousness is liberated from the psychopath ruling the awake hours it can freely act, and it may choose to try to help the insane if Universe feels that the insane is still needed, or it may feel it needs to search the data base of Universe or to relay information back to Universe.

    My experience with mediums and in interpretations suggests to me that when this unconscious links to Universe it brings back information which is related to whatever quest the conscious insane mind is supposed to be doing. In other words, we are only allowed to do whatever it is we are doing if Universe sees a profit in it. I know that's a little cloudy but the idea is that the unconscious mind has been working looking for something or reporting something, and the consciousness is recalling what the unconscious mind is now allowing. See, now it's controlling, actually really does do all the important controlling. It's an illusion that we are in control of what we are doing most of the time.

    Each of us is like a cell in a body of Universe, we live and die like cells, but the experiences we form are part of Universe, part of a whole which we are ourselves are only fractionally a part of. It's not surprising to me that we feel we are elsewhere in our dreams because we actually are elsewhere.

    Are you in another dimension, in an alternate reality, well no not in the sense you've written. It's more like a simulation pulled out of thin air, a kind of quickly created movie script filled with errors as it's created on the fly, but over all it's done with a purpose in mind.

    I would say this may be a premonition. Precise dates are not typical so is there anything you can recall about April 23rd? Is there any significance to that date you can recall? If anything there stands out than that would be the most likely thing which is related to the precise date of April 23rd, 2019 if it's personally related.

    The alternative is that this might be telling you that April 23rd, 2019 will may be upsetting. Why is unclear.
     
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  4. pepe

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    Ecstasy gave me the Freddie Krugers.

    The waking dream, two weeks of recurring content, each one getting more in my grasp than the previous.

    Whether I had control or just the feeling, by day ten I could fly unaided and flew up the park and showed off my skills to my mates.

    Doors changed position throughout the house and tumbleweed appeared each time without warning.

    I looked forward to them toward the end.
     
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  5. Gambeir

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    That is way cool actually. Humans evolved out of nature and with nature acting in a symbiotic relationship, and so it is nature which has adapted itself to our biology for purposes we cannot imagine. These experiences induced by nature's own creations are there for a specific purpose.
     
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  6. coubob

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    Just today i was reading a book called Consciousness Beyond the body, evidence and reflections.(i`m on page 1288)its all kinda new to me. I too am amazed by some of the dreams i have, or what they are, & the differences in them.
     
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  7. Gambeir

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    As near as I can tell the idea here is that there is a kind of over~seer who is the subconscious mind, and you are the conscious mind, the awake person, well you're here on a learning program. Now it's unclear to me whether these are in fact two entities: you and your over~seer, or if you're consciousness is a part of this entity which is being put here in a conscious format of un~awareness for the specific purpose of gaining some insights. I tend to think this life is like level one for beginners. If you're a real screw up I think that's like all she wrote and it's in the dumpster with you. Reason being these kinds of notions are ancient knowledge to humankind.

    So anyways, the primary idea here is that you aren't actually in your body: That is, our brains are in fact fractal receivers and so our bodies are really forms of biological service tools or robots if you will. Again, that conception is ancient and can be found in many religious texts including the bible if examined in allegorical terms. You never really die you see, provided you're not evil of course because who needs that, and so as a whole body of intelligence our lives are judged and weighed. You're told these things in a distorted form in many ways. I am the light and whosoever believeth in me shall have ever lasting life. Gods' promise in the bible right?
     
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  8. Shadowprophet

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    We Must analyze the different ways we have considered consciousness. I know some people will say that there is no proof of parallel realities, But you know, Sometimes people choose what they invest into. and not for some half-hearted reason, But for the wholehearted reason that believing there is more, Believing that the universe and reality are infinitely bigger than we can perceive, makes more sense, Because, We only know the truth of what we see, But compared to the size of what we know exists. How much of reality do we truly conceive? How much of what is true, Can we account for? The paranormal is a strange thing.

    People say dreams aren't real, And yet, They have a very real impact on us. Who among us would ever speak the truth, We are all human, Who among us has ever had feelings for someone in a dream? people can deny it, But Dreams are more than just illusions. They are deeply intertwined experiences complete with emotions within them.

    Perhaps it is a parallel universe but, But it's somehow more than that. in dreams we are or at least in my experience, I have been, More myself, Then who I am right now. In some ways. dreams are even more real then the reality we consist in...

    I would be a fool, To say that a person could create an entire reality with just the power of their minds. But at that same time, Anyone else would be a fool to say that we do not. Humans Dream of being Gods. What would be it be like to be a God? The truth is, All of us already know what it's like to be a god, We have complete control over our minds. Anything you can imagine. To that extent becomes manifest in your mind. Perhaps. Our minds are connected with all thought. Not just here. But everywhere. And in the mind. There are truly no walls, No limitations.
     
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  9. Gambeir

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    The motivation behind self sacrifice, to risk ones' own life to save another, this comes out of that connection. As individuals none of us matter and yet each one of us is vital and we all know that.

    I think that these other worlds are real but they belong to those whom we call the dead. I think it may be possible to access these at some future time and what you will find are strange places. I read a description the other night of what you're talking about, about splitting a second in to a thousand parts, and how this would create alternative realities where you might find you're in city you know but where there are no people.

    This really hit home because I had a couple dreams just like this. I am pretty sure these dreams were after life futures, and I was in an area not far from where I live now, but it was cool and twilight like. There were no people that I could see, but everything was spotelessly clean, like insanely clean, no dirt or anything on the streets which were silky smooth pitch black new asphalt, a car lovers dream road. I could see car head light running along a bridge far away, but not one car or person anywhere near. I was with my mom and dad, my dad is dead, and my mother is alive somehow. We had a large cabin crusier type boat that was moored near this place we had stopped at, and it had a motel which faced the road with this large river and boat on the backside. So I was asking my folks if they wanted to stay on the boat or in the motel while looking up and down this highway for signs of life, and so while waiting for them to decide I then turned back towards them when I heard this whoosing sound, and it was a light plane landing on the road behind me. I then realized that what I had thought was a parking lot I had been standing in was instead a taxi way and parking lot for aircraft. So I then say to my folks, oh look it's my brother and sister landing.

    I took this dream as telling me that after my mother dies I will be next an then the next two youngest of the family will join shortly afterwards. Eight of us in all so that still leaves three hold outs.
     
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  10. Shadowprophet

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    While I believe Dreams can sometimes or even often see through the veil of time. I also believe they see possible realities of other worlds. Let Us hope they do. I've had some dreams. That I simply don't want to come true. As I know you have brother.
     
  11. Gambeir

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    If I can recall where I read that last evening I will post the link, but it's about time and speculation on time manipulation. I'm gonna laugh my butt off if what we end up finding are the realms of the dead with time travel: Like what the hell, this isn't what I thought it would be. A typical joke of the universe I think.
     
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  12. coubob

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    Job 33:15
    In a dream, in a vision of the night,
    when deep sleep falls on people
    as they slumber in their beds,
     
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  13. Gambeir

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    I've never read the Bible but I assume this must relate.
    PS: I know huh? However you don't need to have read the Bible to know it's critical parts such as Gods' Promise is ever lasting life. Notice this is the same claim being forwarded by the quote false prophets of artificial life; yet again another biblical warning no? See, this stuff is almost innate to the senses, to our connection to universe.
     
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  14. spacecase0

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    so maybe a bit off from the current conversation, but not really
    I have been convinced of what dreams are by 2 people, carlos castanada and wilber smith
    the conclusion is that consciousness creates reality.
    my consciousness can make a small personal reality (some regular dreams)
    and some clearly much more adept consciousness made the world that we have physical bodies in.
    reality was an invention of consciousness.
    it gives us a place to have more to do (went to "not reality" and not surprisingly, there is nothing there)
    dream worlds can be just your own, they can be shared, they can be fluid reality or frozen reality.
    the one we have bodies in is shared (because all the energy is here), and made of frozen reality
    many dreams are in a non shared fluid reality.
     
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    to add to my last post,
    some people don't think some dreams are shared
    the national dream center did a very entertaining thing once,
    they asked people to submit maps of dream worlds.
    turns out they matched up. (I want a copy of that larger map as I have been to that place many times)
    I seriously doubt they all talked to each other about the physical layout of the dream worlds with others all over before submitting the maps.
     
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  16. Shadowprophet

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    I've thought a lot about the mind. Consciousness, For all it's study. Science still can't really understand consciousness, What is it to think independently. What is free will? We can tell you what parts of the brain seem to do what. But we can't tell you where free will and independent thought comes from, There are theories that the mind is shared, Like the Akashic Feild. Akashic records - Wikipedia That states there is but one shared consciousness and we are all part of it. And then there are theories like Mind-Body dualism, Mind–body dualism - Wikipedia A theory that states that our minds, Our actual consciousness Our higher intellect comes from somewhere other than our physical body. This theory attempts to explain, that the Mind, And the physical body. Are separate and that the mind experiences time differently than our bodies. in this theory. it attempts to explain things like Remote viewing and precognition. because. Our minds would experience time in a different way than our bodies would.
     
  17. spacecase0

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    if you look at this topic a bit closer you find that there is very little consciousness research,
    and it would seem that it is because "science" does not really like what they find when they look even a little bit.
     
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  18. nivek

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    Where is the map?...I could not find it on that site or did I overlook it?...

    ...
     
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  20. Wade

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    I've been faithfully recording my dreams for years, at least 5 years now maybe more, it would be little surprise to tell you it's one of my favorite subjects. It seems I went on a bit of a sabbatical after my stroke awhile back but it now appears I'm in full form as I'm starting to progress from fragment going norwhere dreams to seemingly deep introspective semi-diagnostic dreams. I'm hoping I'll progress to my usual assortment of dreams about maintaining footing on narrow footpaths, Looking up some long separated friends in Australia,Quinoset huts (go figure) getting on/off freeway ramps, suburban quite( closed even ) shopping malls, empty vacant construction sites, flying(but very clumsily for some reason) and lastly a lot of scaffolding,.... a lot of them.

    Any hoo, my dreams ran the gamut and threw a lot of things at me, by that I mean, they were at times ominous and threatening, flippant and non-consequential, and many times proficient and seemingly drenched in prophecy. And it is for that reason I never paid much attention to them aside the detail that I sometimes picked up. I felt they were pretty introspective but that was about it.

    It is fun and enlightening to pick them apart though.
     

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