What's wrong with a Belief in God?

Discussion in 'Knowledge of the Spirit' started by Shadowprophet, Oct 17, 2018.

  1. Ron67

    Ron67 Ignorance isn’t bliss!

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    I’m quite an easy going person.As I’ve grown older I’ve become more self aware.I really struggle to take seriously anyone who believes in a god.I know this is ridiculous and it means I won’t get to know some fantastic people but I can’t change my response.Im not rude or derogatory towards them I just stay away as I feel I have nothing in common with them.I need evidence before I will believe anything,it’s the way my mind works.And as someone smarter than me said “ If god exists,why did he make me an Atheist “?.
     
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  2. Kchoo

    Kchoo At Peace.

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    I wish I knew there was a God. There are hints that could be explained by that...

    I just don’t know.

    I look for it... I have read the Bible, I have spent hours in Sunday School, really wanting to believe... I sang in church and tried to feel the Holy Spirit... my spine tingled and I would get get goose bumps... I prayed for Jesus to come in to my heart... I felt good about that... I was 10 years old.

    As I got older, I questioned it more and more... struggled... I WANTED to believe in God, But my mind saw too many questions... Too many fake preachings... human theatrics... I wanted to believe... because it would be so cool to have a God that would take care of everything....

    I GOT MAD at God when I went through my divorce and said “Show me you are real! Make it so obvious that no one can deny it!”

    In my mind I heard laughter, and a voice, “Look at you! Funny man... trying so hard to prove I exist and yelling at me... is that not prof that I exist right there?”

    “Ooof... you got me... You must be real in some way to me, or I would not be angry with you...”

    So thus demonstrates the complexity of my own God or no God question.

    I think it is easy to express that Man needs something greater than himself, and we all find ways to search for it, and we can catch ourselves clinging to it from time to time, yes?

    Maybe that is the only real proof we have that there is something greater out there...?
     
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  3. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    Nothing wrong with imagination and belief. Rub whatever color mud you like in your navel for contemplation. I don't think it's necessary to probe the inner workings of absolutely everything. A belief in God (or whatever you like for that matter) is to provide comfort and peace of mind.

    It's a question of what you do with it and how it affects you and those around you. As long as you're not actively trying to proselytize someone or creating problems for others because of it I say no harm done.

    Organized religion is another matter and I have little use for any of that.
     
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  4. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    I've been reading the thread, There are so many people to reply too, If I quoted them all my post would be so long no one would look at it.

    I can explain this as best I can, This Diety Question, It comes about because Something has come over me, I can't really identify this feeling, It's not like a sadness, But I don't know if it's a depression.

    I've gone from thinking I was a young man, With all the time in the world, To realizing I'm 41, No matter how I split the math and fraction it out, My life is more than half over, Psychologically, This has shaken me somewhat.

    I would call it a Midlife crisis, But I don't know if that's what it is, It's all a very calm and melancholily feeling...
    It feels Like time and how I spend it, has suddenly become terribly important, I find myself, Looking for things to do, Even not knowing what I want to do, I search, So, I am a little late with replies, And I honestly never found anything to do, and I'm still searching. :/
     
  5. Kchoo

    Kchoo At Peace.

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    Yep, hit me at 41 too...

    Fear not... just feel it, get over it and get on with it.

    I cant give it due respect in words, but there is actually something very liberating about it once you emerge...
     
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  6. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    Yeah, I can't tell you just when I got there but at 54 it wasn't too long ago. Just realized that time has passed and I'm not exactly the same person I have been up to this point. Not old by any means yet, assuming you're in the right crowd, but not a exactly a young person either. Natural to feel some angst over this. All I can say for certain is that trying to recapture lost youth always looks pathetic to me and is generally unsuccessful. Own it without regret and move on.

    Your job doesn't define you. A hard won lesson I've recently learned, and a far longer post. That was a tough one to swallow and I still struggle with it. I am much, much happier and at ease now that I've come out the other end of the pipe
     
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  7. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    I like that, it makes a really important point, Life, no matter how much time any of us have, Is too short to spend it on things like regret.

    That's very Wise advice bro.
     
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  8. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    It's true, The more time I spend worrying about the time I've lost, Ironically, the more time I lose, Time I could be spending in more positive ways, You and farmer are right, This isn't a the glass is only half full kind of thing. This is a The Glass isn't empty yet Kind of thing.

    I agree :)
     
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  9. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    hopefully the glass is half full of some fine bourbon .......
     
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  10. pepe

    pepe Noble

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    The initial question of origin did not come from fear. I totally agree that we are fear based and our modern day fear is all about dying and loss but the first one to have the internal question of being, didn't come across it by fearing an end, more like an epiphany. Once the general consensus realises things just don't suddenly appear, the concept of creation fills the void.
     
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  11. Kchoo

    Kchoo At Peace.

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    As long as there is food to eat, and trees to give us shade, but if the trees die and food supply fails, nobody will care if there is a deity or not as the gnashing of teeth becomes the final blow to Faith.
     
  12. pepe

    pepe Noble

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    It's perfect.

    There is no need for us to fight but we do, there is no need for us to be prjudice but we are. Our evolutionary path is in our hands as we have no competition. Both are of anamalistic quality.

    I think faith is eternal and the same for science. One is a tool and the other is from a primal and logical mind.

    For me, I think of our kind without the question and it makes us anonymous and pointless.

    I look at all life coming from one source, linking us to every other living thing. I have no religion other than creation itself. By what is a personal preference. Me, another civilisation that left us to develop and make the grade in becoming a keeper. Like parenthood of the universe.

    A code of conduct.
     
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  13. Kchoo

    Kchoo At Peace.

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    @pepe

    “another civilisation that left us to develop and make the grade in becoming a keeper. Like parenthood of the universe.”

    I Agree. It explains our sudden appearance... hard to link us back to evolving from apes without some kind of external influence or placement. I am sure Meddling occurred and that is why we are here, but I would not call them Gods... just doodlers...
     
  14. pepe

    pepe Noble

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    It's not about us kchoo as our form is temporary. Life is the light and we are the Olympic carries of the torch as temporary champions.

    This existence is everything and nothing what ever angle it is viewed. Not either or so embrace the realisation of the greater cause.

    We are young and learning in cycles.



    Ride it like a wave and you will be loved again. I'm off my face.
     
  15. Kchoo

    Kchoo At Peace.

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    Well, thanks for the party! (It’s not every day you get to party with Pepe... )
     
  16. pepe

    pepe Noble

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    My pleasure.

    Hope it was uplifting. My only problem with life is, I would have prefered a later ticket without the relativity of time as a damper.
     
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  17. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Can you elaborate on why you see it like this, humans did not suddenly appear according to evolution and not according to old esoteric sources...

    ...
     
  18. Kchoo

    Kchoo At Peace.

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    I will create a thread. "Sudden appearance of Man?" Where we can swap info...

    Might be a day or two, as work calls... :)
     
  19. Rick Hunter

    Rick Hunter Honorable

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    I believe in God 100%. Because, it makes my life better than it would be without a belief in God. If I was an atheist or simply agnostic I would have jumped off a tall building years ago. I am more than happy to share my faith with others, if they are willing to listen to it. If they choose otherwise I respect their decision.

    I attend a church and love it, however they do not dictate or define my relationship with God. I believe that all the major religions of the world have some truth in them which I agree with. I do not practice apologetics or compile evidence to support "Creationism" as my interest in those things could be measured as about 60 inches of vacuum.

    The fundamentals of my religion can be summed up in the Apostle's Creed:

    Apostles' Creed - Wikipedia

    You will notice there is nothing in there for or against evolution, gay marriage, global warming, socialism, capitalism, President Trump, Hillary Clinton, immigration, social justice, or any of the thousands of other man-made controversies which too often have a thin veneer of religious concern applied over them to induce the masses to serve and worship them.
     
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  20. Rick Hunter

    Rick Hunter Honorable

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    I should also note that I firmly believe in other worlds and planes of existence, however we might define them. I would love to have some sort of experiences with that world while I am in this life, perhaps through out of body travel or encountering some visitors as Kchoo has done.
     
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