What's wrong with a Belief in God?

Discussion in 'Knowledge of the Spirit' started by Shadowprophet, Oct 17, 2018.

  1. Kchoo

    Kchoo Lunar Goon III Pilot

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    Brought to you by the number 3.
     
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  2. pepe

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    Carbon, hydrogen and oxygen.
    One percent short of the complete ingredients for life when combined.

    Echoes of our past that imprint our future.
     
  3. Shadowprophet

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    To clarify on holographic universe theory, Many people misunderstand what holographic universe theory really is, It doesn't necessarily mean we are photonic holograms like a light. The belief is, That reality, The universe. is being more or less "projected" on to some great kind of gravitational plane. Basically, Physical matter can only exist where there is space for it to exist, Oddly enough, The way physical matter interacts at the subatomic and quantum levels leads us to believe, the Higgs field is an anomaly upon which the foundations of physical reality "Manifest" "Project" " Exist" basically, That physical matter as we understand it, Doesn't react they ways it should, under certain conditions at the subatomic or quantum level. It changes next to nothing about the nature of physical matter on the Macro level at all, only how physical matter interacts with space itself.

    Consider it like this, Space is the Screen, upon which, Physical matter manifests. So it's only holographic in its principals, Not Literally photonic, As In projections of light. The holographic theory does much more to prove the universe and life is a unique thing while disproving multiverse theory and embracing the idea of a flat infinite space.

    The holographic theory does not necessarily embrace "simulation theory" But that is another subject. The Ancestor simulation idea is pretty cool though.
     
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  4. pepe

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    Totally agree with eye, hair and skin colour as being none important.

    Structure is different in only one of the above. Surely has meaning of difference.

    Everybody does worship the very same God/Gods, just a different theme. We are meant to dispute as it keeps it ripe for progress. For those who are Atheist, there will be a certain leaning toward one religion, as we have the capability to chose without having to make the choice. Usually culture embedded.

    Never had a wife or a partner where I have toed the expected line. Maybe not having the stresses of children and loved ones has given me time to see things differently. I feel that reflected in many people I know.
     
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  5. Shadowprophet

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    Here is a better way to explain it, Spacetime is something we can actually see with gravitational lensing

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    So, The idea here is Gravity, Bends space right? So,, holographic universe theory is like this. Some great unseen gravitational force has shaped space in such a way, That reality is shaped much like one of those lenses, And as such, Reality can only exist within these margins, Like it's being focused like this lens here, Reality is shaped by some great unseen assumed gravitational force and the energy is focusing at these points, Like energy or matter focuses at these points to basically form the reality we know "holographic theory in a nutshell"
     
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  6. Shadowprophet

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    Really? Somehow, I always imagined you as a married guy with grandchildren. It's your demeanor, You come off as too wise and reserved, If I was a betting man, I would have put all my money on the table that you were a family man brother.
     
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    Never had an interest in family or sharing my life with anyone, long term scares me. Times I have shared with women but I am true to my nature and not monogamous. Never cheated, ships that pass in the night more like.

    Love for my makers was and is paramount in that department. My brother is a mate and his kids are little mates.
     
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    Fuck them. This is why I have SUCH a problem with staunch atheism. The "we cannot prove God exists, so God is not real" attitude is ignorant. The truth is, we as humans don't know. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Of course we don't have solid, scientific evidence, but that doesn't mean there is no possibility. And yeah, honestly I understand scientists that judge hardcore religious folks. You know, the people that believe man was molded from clay and the world was made in 7 days. Because it's funny to poke fun at them... but that's not you. If you're wanting to have legitimate discussions with scientists, and you bring up the existence of god, why should you be made fun of? Shouldn't it be discussed? Isn't the point of science to explore the unknown? They bitch about religious people being closed-minded but they're doing the exact same thing.

    Holy crap, this got be riled up... and this is coming from an agnostic-atheist.
     
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  9. pepe

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    Grandchildren ?

    By the common standard of age, my kids would be sex offenders.

    Kiddophiles.
     
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    Always begs the question of who's lenses are those with restriction.

    I'm linear.
     
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  11. Kchoo

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    Guess you are younger than I thought....
    Since you identify with Jack, I figured you would be roughly the same age.
     
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  12. Kchoo

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    We do not live in a holographic universe... but we could be tricked into believing that...
     
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  13. pepe

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    Half Jack in age and man.
     
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  14. nivek

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    Our universe isn't solid but we could be tricked into believing that...

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  15. Kchoo

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    But I disagree...
    The universe is touchable, tasty, smelly, and sometimes pretty.


    If it is not solid... what keeps us from sinking into the ground below?
    w24
     
  16. nivek

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    See you have been tricked into thinking that...lol

    Electromagnetic forces, electrons pushing other electrons away...

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  17. Shadowprophet

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    I kind of see it like this, I wish Thomas would Input on the science aspect of this, But I can see why he hasn't yet. But, I see it in this way, E=Mc2 I'm not proclaiming rocket science, I wouldn't know this unless I studied it. I'm not a genius,
    Genusis? lol anyway, Energy is equivalent to mass, Times the speed of light in the Vacuum, Or, Dark interaction <-- with Dark interaction being my own term to describe the Vacuum of space as the pull of dark energy on the universe.

    But, Energy and matter are basically the same things, Matter is just energy that has been converted into another form of energy which just happens to have physical properties in the case of matter, it can and does return to energy some day. All physical matter decays, Anyway, So this gravitational plane, interacts with possibly the electromagnetic force or the QED in this very precise way, to give us physical matter, but only at this very specifically focused point in this gravitational field/horizon I don't know, I repeat this partly because of OCD and partly because I'm still trying to Grasp this myself, Thomas, Are you around?
     
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  18. Kchoo

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    I am just glad I dont get absorbed by Earth's surface...
    o_O
     
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  19. Shadowprophet

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    There is literally no rule that says we can not phase through an object,



    In fact, In the case of superfluids, it can and does happen, Here is an article about Superfluids tunneling through a glass container, I believe it was helium with a glass container, Quantum phase transition from a superfluid to a Mott insulator in a gas of ultracold atoms This article is on scholarly is it cited by 6173 physicists.

    And here is helium as a superfluid climbing out of its container by running up the sides and leaking through the solid glass. Absolute zero viscosity.



    Anyway, The point is, What we consider a Solid matter is really just a perception, Atoms don't actually touch one another their electrons repulse one another. Why Physics Says You Can Never Actually Touch Anything there is a very fine electromagnetic field repulsing between atoms that will not allow them to ever really touch, even at incredible densities.

    So, In superfluids case, Quantum tunneling is really just allowing the mass of one object to pass between the atoms of the other because atoms never touch anyway.
     
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  20. Sheltie

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    So are the ideas of a multiverse and a holographic universe mutually exclusive?
     
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