What's wrong with a Belief in God?

Discussion in 'Knowledge of the Spirit' started by Shadowprophet, Oct 17, 2018.

  1. Kchoo

    Kchoo At Peace.

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    Thats a perfect assessment of humanity.

    Just hope we arent too late to reep the benefits...

    Old habits are the scorched earth policy. My employer requires me to drive to the office every day to write code...burning 15 gallons of fuel a week. Even though I have an ULEV it is contributing to the problem....
     
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  2. pepe

    pepe Noble

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    I think we are going all the way to the top.
     
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  3. pepe

    pepe Noble

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    Expanse, paracast and babble.

    I'm literally awash wit it.
     
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  4. Toroid

    Toroid Founding Member

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    Welcome aboard. :)
    q9
     
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  5. pepe

    pepe Noble

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    I like to think we are all in agreement as to our direction of progress as moving forward but we are either going sideways or backward.

    Are our creatures evolving. If so then we were they and they will be another wave of us. When we are long gone and ready to repay the debt by watching over them from a distance as we know what such a truth could damage. Life itself would stagnate to an automonous state .

    Slaves to the rhythm is no freedom.
     
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  6. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    Right, you are guys, This was a discussion about beliefs in God, I get sidetracked a lot, My bad.
    It's literally in my personality, I don't do it intentionally, It's like my brain just changes topics at random, I've always been that way.
     
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  7. Rick Hunter

    Rick Hunter Honorable

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    How many miles a week are you driving? I drive 53 miles each way to work, and I'm burning a little less than that in my 1998 Mazda 626 with 250k on the clock.
     
  8. Dejan Corovic

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    Yeah, religion is just a business masqueraded as, uhmmm, spirituality.

    Basically religion sells you forgetable promisses and charges a good mony for it.

    Catholic church publishes it's accounts every year. I remember reading that US Catholic church, according to that audit, was workth $40B, when Apple's capitalisation was $50B. Not bad for institutioin that is based on stolen and recucled folk farytales.

    It might be interesting to learn how much money are other religions are worth, like Budist, Muslims, Hindu etc.

    If you had any experience in marketing, you would easily see that religion is pure marketing, of course, only this time, without and usefull product or service.

    Actually, there used to be a legend going around on internet, that MENSA institude did a general study of human intelligence, by all categories like profession, age, gender, race etc. MENSA found that 70% of people who are religious have IQ bellow average. Now that's not a problem. Problem are those 30% who are above the average. It just shows that top 30% is slowly but surely milking those 70% of less lucky ones.
     
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  9. Shadowprophet

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    Here is something, List of religious populations - Wikipedia If you look at this page you will see large and by far globally most of the world's population is, in fact, religious with Christianity taking 33% of the world population and Islam taking 24 % With Buddhism at 7% Hinduism taking a 15 % With Non religious beliefs like atheism taking 16 %

    Keeping in mind that only 16 % of the world's population is non-belief or agnostic or atheist.

    Just at this point. That is 79 % of the population of the earth who practice religion versus 16% who do not, and I didn't even finish the list, according to you, The majority of the population of the earth is working with a below average IQ. Seems a little off to me, honestly. How can it be a below average IQ, When the majority seems to be practicing religion. it seems it would be more like an average IQ that practices religion. at this point.
     
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  10. Sheltie

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    I don't want to open a can of worms here but I don't like it when there is a discussion of intelligence based on various popular tests and evaluations. After all, what is intelligence? How do we define it?

    We've all known that person who has more degrees than a thermometer yet has a shockingly inadequate amount of common sense. And there are the people who have exceptional book sense but seemingly little street sense.

    Most intelligence tests are weighted heavily towards problem solving and analytical skills with significantly less attention to creativity and intuition.

    My father was a high school dropout but he had the smarts to learn a trade and start a family and put his kids through college.

    The OP was about belief in God so I suppose I've digressed. :thinking:
     
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  11. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    Thank you!!! OMG Thank you!!! I wanted to say something similar, But, I very much didn't want to speak out. These kinds of conversations are tricky and delicate to be sure.
     
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  12. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Vise versa of that too I have heard before, hardcore religious folks judging and ridiculing scientists and some think they get a free pass because they can ask forgiveness and their 'sins' are washed away at Sunday church...Keep in mind too that the extreme end of some hardcore religious folk are the fanaticals, radicals, terrorists...We don't see radical scientists going around blowing up stuff...Don't misunderstand me though, this post may give the impression that I'm atheist, I am not...

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  13. Shadowprophet

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    As Much as I've screamed about religion over the years, I've screamed ten times the science. I have my spiritual beliefs, But Science isn't guesswork. There is no empirical science fact anywhere that can confirm A deity or creator does or does not exist.

    In fact, it must be said, Many people who legitimately are educated in the field Have questioned Gods existence, The like's of, Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, And Neil DeGrasse Tyson, They search for answers, Maybe they don't believe in God, But they Believe in science enough to be convicted in the fact that they can not use science to disprove God because they don't possess empirical evidence. Any scientist knows, Without empirical evidence, That leaves room for wonder and doubt.

    Anyone who Really understands Science, Knows that Science is an empirical study. You simply can not use it to make someone who is religious look like a fool without looking uneducated in the field. That's just a fact.

    It's fine to not believe in a God, It's fine to believe in one if someone wants too, But it's not fine to misuse science then declare scientifically there is no God and begin Casting judgments on others. That's simply uninformed.

    Ultimately, here, I'm only defending Science, I've chilled out a lot over the years, And I'm not defending religion or God, I think there are enough people doing that already. This was just to point out the fact that, Anyone who laughs at religion and then says science, knows nothing of either subject. ;)
     
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