Why don’t Astronomers see UFOs?

nivek

As Above So Below
I've only quoted below a part of an article, a certain part of it, for this topic that I wanted to expand on; 'astronomer sightings of UFOs'...Are there good pictures taken by astronomers, what good sightings reports have you heard of that involve astronomer sightings of UFOs...


Are we alone? The question is worthy of serious scientific study

The fact is that they do. In 1977, Peter Sturrock, a professor of space science and astrophysics at Stanford University, mailed 2,611 questionnaires about UFO sightings to members of the American Astronomical Society. He received 1,356 responses from which 62 astronomers – 4.6 percent – reported witnessing or recording inexplicable aerial phenomena. This rate is similar to the approximately 5 percent of UFO sightings that are never explained.

As expected, Sturrock found that astronomers who witnessed UFOs were more likely to be night sky observers. Over 80 percent of Sturrock’s respondents were willing to study the UFO phenomenon if there was a way to do so. More than half of them felt that the topic deserves to be studied versus 20 percent who felt that it should not. The survey also revealed that younger scientists were more likely to support the study of UFOs.

UFOs have been observed through telescopes. I know of one telescope sighting by an experienced amateur astronomer in which he observed an object shaped like a guitar pick moving through the telescope’s field of view. Further sightings are documented in the book “Wonders in the Sky,” in which the authors compile numerous observations of unexplained aerial phenomena made by astronomers and published in scientific journals throughout the 1700s and 1800s.

Wonders in the Sky: Unexplained Aerial Objects from Antiquity to Modern Times

Report on a Survey of the Membership of the American Astronomical Society Concerning the UFO Problem: Part 1

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wwkirk

Divine
Jacques Vallee Interview
"When I was beginning my career in science," recalls Dr. Jacques Vallee, "the main argument against UFOs was that astronomers never saw them. I found that argument convincing." Then, in 1961, he and other satellite trackers at the Paris Observatory detected something odd overhead. Stranger still was what happened after that: The project director erased the data tape before an orbit for the unidentified object could be computed. "I thought, here we are at a renowned institution, seeing something we can't explain and destroying data for fear of ridicule. That, for me, reopened the entire question."

Jacques Vallee Interview | Our Strange Planet
Have you ever seen any flying disks?

Jacques Vallee: I’ve seen things that shouldn’t have been there when I was tracking satellites at the Paris observatory. I saw them visually as part of a team, and that’s really what started my research. Obviously, I had heard of UFOs before then, but I always thought that if there were UFOs astronomers would see them and would tell us, but my first job as an astronomer left me disillusioned. I was part of a team that was tracking satellites for the French Space Committee. We found ourselves tracking objects that were not satellites, and were not anything else recognizable either. One night we got eleven data points on one of these objects on a magnetic tape and wanted to run the tape through a computer and compute an orbit and see the thing again. To this day, I can’t tell you that it wasn’t some piece of technology that somebody had. It could have been some very bizarre piece of human technology, but what intrigued me was that the man in charge of the project confiscated the tape and erased it. That’s really what got me started, because I suddenly realized that astronomers saw things that they did not report.
 

Georgek

George
I've only quoted below a part of an article, a certain part of it, for this topic that I wanted to expand on; 'astronomer sightings of UFOs'...Are there good pictures taken by astronomers, what good sightings reports have you heard of that involve astronomer sightings of UFOs...


Are we alone? The question is worthy of serious scientific study

The fact is that they do. In 1977, Peter Sturrock, a professor of space science and astrophysics at Stanford University, mailed 2,611 questionnaires about UFO sightings to members of the American Astronomical Society. He received 1,356 responses from which 62 astronomers – 4.6 percent – reported witnessing or recording inexplicable aerial phenomena. This rate is similar to the approximately 5 percent of UFO sightings that are never explained.

As expected, Sturrock found that astronomers who witnessed UFOs were more likely to be night sky observers. Over 80 percent of Sturrock’s respondents were willing to study the UFO phenomenon if there was a way to do so. More than half of them felt that the topic deserves to be studied versus 20 percent who felt that it should not. The survey also revealed that younger scientists were more likely to support the study of UFOs.

UFOs have been observed through telescopes. I know of one telescope sighting by an experienced amateur astronomer in which he observed an object shaped like a guitar pick moving through the telescope’s field of view. Further sightings are documented in the book “Wonders in the Sky,” in which the authors compile numerous observations of unexplained aerial phenomena made by astronomers and published in scientific journals throughout the 1700s and 1800s.

Wonders in the Sky: Unexplained Aerial Objects from Antiquity to Modern Times

Report on a Survey of the Membership of the American Astronomical Society Concerning the UFO Problem: Part 1

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This is where the problem lies.
What does 4,6% inexplicable phenomenon really mean? No one attributed these to alien craft from other worlds. Therefore the mystery still remains. 1,365 responses? What does that mean? Out of a million...two million or twenty million? Depicting something as not existing in our logistics is neither one way or the other.

It is like going to an atheist party and asking someone about God? "Oh we had this lightning strike, but it did not seem natural?"

Most astronomers are anti-UFOs anyway. Even if one sat on their telescope, it would take an hour before it would be recognised.

Let us face it.....UFOs bu**ers up astronomers belief system .

They spend all their time thinking of life under the rocks on Mars or aliens buried inside the moon as science will one day revolutionise space and all will be revealed!
Astronomers have good cause not to see UFOs.....

They are too busy looking for junk in space and listening to NASA...lol

Just my thoughts
 

Georgek

George
Scientists should scrap their conventional thoughts about UFOs and realise that there is something wrong?

To look at the sky and to see billions dots of stars and still these UFOs come?

Why is that?

The planet is sick and all they can do is watch from afar as not to mingle with the natives.

They come to me...why not to them?

I found them to be the most intelligent....nicest entities anyone can meet. Having given me the greatest respect which is more than I ever had from my fellow man.

They have not only mastered our science, politics, languages and history but our whole makeup.
Their power is awesome as they can zoom into you through mere thought.

Science should understand that they we are not the masters of the universe and that everything is at our disposal . As it is they who judge ...not us!
 

Dean

Adept Dabbler
During an evening reception of several hundred astronomers at Victoria, British Columbia, in the summer of 1968, word spread that just outside the hall strangely maneuvering lights -- UFOs -- had been spotted. The news was met by casual banter and the giggling sound that often accompanies an embarrassing situation. Not one astronomer ventured outside in the summer night to see for himself.

Erwin Schrodinger, pioneer in quantum mechanics and a philosopher of science, wrote: "The first requirement of a scientist is that he be curious. He should be capable of being astronished and eager to find out."

-- from The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry, by J. Allen Hynek, Ph.D. (Henry Regnery, 1972, page 6)
 

Georgek

George
During an evening reception of several hundred astronomers at Victoria, British Columbia, in the summer of 1968, word spread that just outside the hall strangely maneuvering lights -- UFOs -- had been spotted. The news was met by casual banter and the giggling sound that often accompanies an embarrassing situation. Not one astronomer ventured outside in the summer night to see for himself.

Erwin Schrodinger, pioneer in quantum mechanics and a philosopher of science, wrote: "The first requirement of a scientist is that he be curious. He should be capable of being astronished and eager to find out."

-- from The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry, by J. Allen Hynek, Ph.D. (Henry Regnery, 1972, page 6)
Yep....exactly!


I recollect returning to Heathrow Airport from Cyprus one evening.

We queued at the bus shelter waiting for the bus to take us North into Nottingham.
I was looking up at the sky, comparing the UK sky to that of Cyprus.
Over in the UK, it is never black-black at night because of the long days and short nights in Summer. meaning the stars were never as bright as in Cyprus. I had often ventured into the hills at night time in Cyprus just to look at the stars in the night sky.
The nights were hot and the sound of crickets were so loud, they sounded like a million watt electric generator.

Anyway....whilst at Heathrow I watched some of the planes coming into land followed by the roar of turbine engines almost ear splitting.

As I looked up, well above the craft coming in to land were these things what I can only describe as looking at frog spawn .

There must have been at least one dozen high above without even making a sound. For a few seconds I forgot where I was, as I wondered what these strange objects were doing?

I shouted in a deep exclamation:- "QUICK...Look over there!!!" as I pointed at the objects.

There must have been about 6-10 people queuing up for the bus, and not one person paid a blind bit of notice to me!

I watched these objects, as one at the back seemed to take the lead as the whole formation appeared like an arrow head.
They moved so fast, twisting and turning and seemed to know what the leader was doing at the speed of thought.

It was incredible to watch the leading craft undulate, turn sharp right hand dive downwards in the blink of an eye with all these objects behind doing exactly the same at precisely the same time withing a 100th of a second or so.

It showed to me, that they were not physical.

Heathrow Airport has the most sophisticated radar equipment in the world and is the busiest airport in the world.

So they must know what goes on in their airspace?

Hence I wrote to Heathrow Airport and they denied ever picking anything up.

That was ridicules and shows what we are dealing with.

The only time I eves dropped conversations about Astronomers was when the famous UFO TV presenter Jenny Randles was talking to Patrick Moore the world famous astronomer at Jenny's home in Manchester when she invited me to pop over to chat.

Well..let us say I invited myself..lol

Jenny Randles - Wikipedia

She was chatting over the telephone with Patrick Moore and the conversation was not a happy one!

Jenny Randles was trying to promote UFOs and make them respectable and used Patrick Moore's 'staggered influence' to make out that he believed in them.

By which he was going to take her to court.
Patrick Moore - Wikipedia

I am not sure if temper 'blew over' but Patrick Moore was having none of it!
 

Toroid

Founding Member
I've only quoted below a part of an article, a certain part of it, for this topic that I wanted to expand on; 'astronomer sightings of UFOs'...Are there good pictures taken by astronomers, what good sightings reports have you heard of that involve astronomer sightings of UFOs...


Are we alone? The question is worthy of serious scientific study

The fact is that they do. In 1977, Peter Sturrock, a professor of space science and astrophysics at Stanford University, mailed 2,611 questionnaires about UFO sightings to members of the American Astronomical Society. He received 1,356 responses from which 62 astronomers – 4.6 percent – reported witnessing or recording inexplicable aerial phenomena. This rate is similar to the approximately 5 percent of UFO sightings that are never explained.

As expected, Sturrock found that astronomers who witnessed UFOs were more likely to be night sky observers. Over 80 percent of Sturrock’s respondents were willing to study the UFO phenomenon if there was a way to do so. More than half of them felt that the topic deserves to be studied versus 20 percent who felt that it should not. The survey also revealed that younger scientists were more likely to support the study of UFOs.

UFOs have been observed through telescopes. I know of one telescope sighting by an experienced amateur astronomer in which he observed an object shaped like a guitar pick moving through the telescope’s field of view. Further sightings are documented in the book “Wonders in the Sky,” in which the authors compile numerous observations of unexplained aerial phenomena made by astronomers and published in scientific journals throughout the 1700s and 1800s.

Wonders in the Sky: Unexplained Aerial Objects from Antiquity to Modern Times

Report on a Survey of the Membership of the American Astronomical Society Concerning the UFO Problem: Part 1

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I imagine astronauts would have to sign all kinds of forms stating they won't divulge the fact that they've seen alien craft or supernatural events. All data coming from the ISS & shuttle program probably goes through security screening before it's released.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
i recall there was an entire website designed to debunk this common skeptic statement being a database of astronomer sightings
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I imagine astronauts would have to sign all kinds of forms stating they won't divulge the fact that they've seen alien craft or supernatural events. All data coming from the ISS & shuttle program probably goes through security screening before it's released.

Those astronauts had to compete for their spot on the mission, generally. Maybe that's not the right term - but fair to say that anyone aboard the ISS has to work their A-SS off to get there and not everybody makes it. I'd think most people would be inclined to be awfully circumspect before opening their mouths about anything short of a near-catastrophic event for fear of destroying their careers.
 

michael59

Celestial
So, 20% of them say they do not think it should be investigated. Do you think that fear of ridicule is the only reason for that 20%?

That response about "if they knew how to study them they would..." Well, to start with, don't erase the evidence. Then compile everything you have, get together and compare notes.

I bet ya they already do that.
 
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