humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
i am gonna start giving everyone that mentions a obscure ufo case, a awesome from now onPerhaps Joe Simonton was on to something
i am gonna start giving everyone that mentions a obscure ufo case, a awesome from now onPerhaps Joe Simonton was on to something
I prefer this explanation. Your true essence is soul. You don’t have a soul. The body is merely a sheath or covering for soul.
It has become impossible to be white and offended
Totally agree but not sure of the prognosis.And the deindustrialization of this nation has forced all of the money, which is in the hands of the very few instead of the many, into a stock market bubble that’s doomed to burst very badly, along with a real estate market that’s now so bloated that few can afford a home for their families.
These are the fundamental issues that drive the collapse of civilizations.
wholesale slaughter and mayhem that we’ve wrought all across the Mideast has created a global terrorism epidemic and the largest refugee crisis since WWII
There are various levels of collapse, to be sure. The Great Depression was a pretty major collapse, but we eventually recovered for a variety of reasons, including the diverse economic systems around the world at the time, and the strength of our industrial sector at that time. Today with globalization I'm less confident in the resilience of the system - the 2007 crash should've been a wake-up call because that showed us how widespread the effects of a financial meltdown can be. And it looked pretty touch-and-go there for awhile. The bubble today is larger, and the fundamentals are weaker. It's only a matter of time before the psychopaths on Wall Street and their puppets in Washington precipitate an irrecoverable global economic catastrophe, imo. It'll probably happen in series of progressively crippling stages, like the fall of the Roman Empire.Totally agree but not sure of the prognosis.
Is it not an update of the Marxist position that capitalism would fail due to money concentrating in fewer and fewer hands. The poor would then not have the income to buy the products produced leading to collapse? Didn't happen, central intervention provided stabilization.
I'm not sure that I catch your meaning. But I think that most of us are blithely unaware that the quality of our daily lives has plummeted in recent decades as the corruption in the political and economic systems has spiraled completely out of control. We're the frog in the pot and the water has been gradually coming to a boil.Hence the piss-poor foreign policy.
Human nature is consistent.I can't speak to global conspiracy but have plenty of opinions about what affects my daily life.
The world is so deeply leveraged with debt now that I can't help but wonder how much debt is sustainable. I guess we'll find out, probably sooner than later.I believe the next crisis will be due to ageing populations. My Chinese language partner said it was a huge problem there due to the previous one child policy. When he was young his village had 1000 people, now 200 due to migration to cities.
He said the West could throw money at the problem but not an option for third world countries.
Have to differ. Many of the cleverest people on the planet are involved in the financial world, and the influence of oligarchs is not certain.Today with globalization I'm less confident in the resilience of the system
I'm not sure that I catch your meaning.
Pepe’s post triggered my response. From direct personal experience I have been categorized and filed based my physical appearance and subjected to verbal abuse of one form or another. Go pick some other demographic to do that to and tell me how that goes over – but it’s just fine for me. You can toss in the anti-Semitic horseshit my wife has to listen to for good measure. We live in a time when it’s OK to gratuitously spew vitriol because well, we’re so damned correct about one thing or another and it’s someone else's fault so there is no responsibility for poor behavior. That is something I have noted on the rise and see it as a disturbing trend. I attribute it to what I have said before, the immediacy of communication.
That sounds eerily similar to animal nature. Granted, humans are animals too, but in my perhaps naïve view, I think we should do better than that.Human nature means the strong prey upon the weak
I’m a bit confused by this statement, because here you seem to be saying that conspiracies are real and inescapably part of human nature, but later on you seem to deny them.conspiracies are part and parcel of our sociological makeup.
The Romans would understand it, but look how that turned out. Decades of unchecked imperialism, which comes with a steep price tag in mangled human bodies, deep and lasting outrage, and trillions of dollars, strikes me as the surest and historically well-tested method to collapse a civilization.As for the last two decades of foreign policy, Ike’s warning about the military industrial complex was quite real but has been reduced to cliché. It’s a major factor to why we were in Iraq and just about everywhere else, and why Europe has been inundated with refugees. But, the Romans would understand it and so would William Randolph Hearst. It’s the scope and scale at play not the basic concepts.
All of the large-scale socioeconomic data refutes this viewpoint. Sure, within your own personal sphere, you may see a pocket of opportunity and a correlation between hard work and success (and the healthcare industry is one of the few that we can't export, so that's doing uncommonly well these days). But nationally, and all across the Western world, that’s not what’s happening. Today, the US is the wealthiest nation in human history, as it has been for many decades. But over the last half century the middle class has been hollowed out as many if not most of our industries have been exported, to exploit the cheap labor abroad. This has shifted the money from the many to the very few: the economic inequality in the US today ranks 23 out of 30 nations on the “inclusive development index,” which factors in data on income, health, poverty, and sustainability:From my experience I don’t agree with “the quality of our daily lives has plummeted in recent decades”
Self-reliance has been a hard earned lesson for me and starting at level zero I have found that many opportunities are there for those who seek them. Still are. I’m talking about real, live and in person experience with education, health care and employment. I haven’t seen the quality of daily life degrade, in many cases I see improvement to those willing to work and not expect something for free.
I never used the word conspiracy and that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the natural historical trend of all civilizations whereby wealth and political power tends to increasingly accrue at the top, until that civilization collapses. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s simply greed + the tendency of the plutocrat class to rig economic and political systems in their favor.I don’t speak to global conspiracy because – and please, I really mean no offense here – it sounds extreme to my ear and just the sort of thing that real extremists i.e. doomsday preppers, militias etc. base a lot of their rhetoric on.
I see a dearth of decency and civility online, for sure. You may be right; it could be the immediacy of online communication and the knee-jerk-response online culture that’s arisen over the last 20 years. Especially with platforms like Twitter and facebook that treat all of the content as a fleeting stream of consciousness with no enduring meaning or value, flowing into oblivion every day as new content buries it – I think that the inherent architecture of those types of platforms encourages people to see their own words as inconsequential – lost in the flotsam of chatter, so many people often just spout whatever garbage floats through their mind, and then move on to comment on the next thing, just as impulsively and thoughtlessly. I think that the indirectness of this medium contributes to that; if people had to look each other in the eye in person when they were communicating, instead of hitting a button and sending their words through a large network of machines from one screen to another hundreds or thousands of miles away, they’d consider their words and ideas far more carefully. Most people would, anyway; there's always been a minority of people willing to say stupid and ugly things to others in person. But in the past, those people were shunned, which limited their reach. Now that kind of person can spread filth all day and night on multiple social media platforms, often anonymously, and basically without any consequences whatsoever. The final result is an often ugly, vapid, and inflammatory new form of culture frequently dominated by the lowest form of human being.
That sounds eerily similar to animal nature. Granted, humans are animals too, but in my perhaps naïve view, I think we should do better than that.
And I’m troubled by the meaning of “strong” and “weak” in this context. Because today in America, “strong” means “rich” and “weak” means “poor,” and I’ve noticed that far too often those who are rich are deeply inferior to some of the poorest people I know, in terms of intelligence, capability, and character. That seems backwards to me. I’m seeing the rise of a vapid and entirely self-gratifying aristocratic class, and an alarming percentage of them have inherited their fortunes and power from earlier generations. Simultaneously I’ve seen America’s production industries move abroad, forcing the most capable and ingenious people to take steep pay-cuts, if they can find work at all. This is a recipe for disaster, imo.
I’m a bit confused by this statement, because here you seem to be saying that conspiracies are real and inescapably part of human nature, but later on you seem to deny them.
But I’m not talking about a conspiracy; I’m talking about the return of the "aristocracy vs. peasantry" economic and political dynamic.
The Romans would understand it, but look how that turned out. Decades of unchecked imperialism, which comes with a steep price tag in mangled human bodies, deep and lasting outrage, and trillions of dollars, strikes me as the surest and historically well-tested method to collapse a civilization.
All of the large-scale socioeconomic data refutes this viewpoint. Sure, within your own personal sphere, you may see a pocket of opportunity and a correlation between hard work and success (and the healthcare industry is one of the few that we can't export, so that's doing uncommonly well these days). But nationally, and all across the Western world, that’s not what’s happening. Today, the US is the wealthiest nation in human history, as it has been for many decades. But over the last half century the middle class has been hollowed out as many if not most of our industries have been exported, to exploit the cheap labor abroad. This has shifted the money from the many to the very few: the economic inequality in the US today ranks 23 out of 30 nations on inequality measures:
WEF: U.S. Ranks 23rd Out of 30 for Inequality - The Atlantic
Income inequality, specifically, has skyrocketed in the United States since 1980, and is now comparable to income inequality levels in Mexico and Turkey, according to the OECD and every other credible economic analysis:
“Over the past few years, income inequality levels have remained at historically high levels. Across OECD countries, the average Gini coefficient of disposable household income reached 0.318 in 2014, compared to 0.315 in 2010. This is the highest value on record, since the mid-1980s”
Inequality - OECD
Here’s a chart that shows the imbalance more explicitly:
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How economically unequal is the United States?
Nationally, we were doing quite well from about 1945 to 1980. But now we’re back to where we were in 1929 when the stock market collapsed and triggered the Great Depression. And globally, 82% of all wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population:
82% of the World's Wealth Went to the Richest 1% in 2017
Americans are increasingly aware of the problem, which is why millions of people on both sides of the political spectrum filled stadiums for their anti-establishment candidates in 2016, and why Hillary Clinton (the establishment candidate) couldn’t beat the faux-populist Donald Trump even though she outspent him 2:1. The nation is increasingly anxious, struggling, and frustrated that our political system no longer represents them, as the labor class now pays a higher tax rate than billionaires like Warren Buffet, and corporations like Amazon and General Electric pay no taxes at all.
I never used the word conspiracy and that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the natural historical trend of all civilizations whereby wealth and political power tends to increasingly accrue at the top, until that civilization collapses. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s simply greed + the tendency of the plutocrat class to rig economic and political systems in their favor.
Not only is the national economy now rigged in favor of the new aristocratic class consisting primarily of billionaires and multinational corporations, but they’ve completely rigged the political system as well. This was empirically proven by the 2014 Gilens and Page study from Princeton on policy-making in the United States. They found that the general population had no statistically significant influence on the policy-making process in Washington, even when we amass into large political lobbies, whereas the elites – the political donor class consisting mainly of billionaires and large corporations - had all of the impact on the political policy-making process:
“Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.”
https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites...testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf
In common parlance, that says that we’re no longer a representational Republic – the United States is now an oligarchy. We’re past the point where we have to fight to prevent it from happening: it’s already happened. Now we either have to fight to take back our government, or submit to the inevitable descent into neofeudalism and the tyrannical rule of the aristocrats, which is precisely what our founding fathers fought against 250 years ago.
I’m trying to come up with a third option, because the corporate news media has very effectively crippled the capacity of the American people to identify the structural problems of our nation and to organize to fight for crucial political reforms, but it’s a long-shot at best. So it looks to me like we’re facing a decent into a new Dark Age, and it’ll probably take a few centuries for people to get tired of essentially being neofeudal wage slaves while the wealthy bloodlines throw parties and take vanity trips to the Moon on luxury spaceliners.
Agreed. Sometimes getting what you think you want doesn't always work out the way you had hoped but I make a point to exercise my right to vote and speak my mind to my representatives as I see fit and can do so without fear of anything.We the people have the word on who represents us, not a mystery organisation
Also agreed, to a point. Much of what I was saying in response to your initial post was based on bad-breath level experience not from sitting in front of a computer.I am a street level person who goes by my gut
Okay: the major corporations and billionaires pull the strings here. Political campaign donations buy influence over the politicians, and the politicians in turn control the policy-making decisions.United States ? Name the guys who are pulling the strings there.
Where do you and pigfarmer get the idea that we’re talking about a “secret” and/or a “conspiracy?” It’s neither. The corruption is right out in the open; it’s not a secret and it’s not a conspiracy – it’s just graft, plain and simple. And that’s as old as human civilization itself.Cash for questions and large donations I will grant but to say that there is a secret elite power running democracy is grotesque.
You’re oversimplifying a wide range of individual issues – the US targets a lot of countries through policy, sanctions, and warfare, for a whole lot of different reasons which generally boil down to exploiting foreign resources and protecting the PetroDollar system. We don’t really care if a nation is oppressive as long as we’re making a profit off of them – that whole “spreading freedom and democracy” BS is just PR. If we had a problem with oppressive nations, all of our presidents and representatives wouldn’t bow before the Saudis, for example. They just publicly beheaded a young woman for participating in a peaceful protest, btw.Funny how the countries known to have been or are under this oppression are on the target list of your own nation in one way or another.
Haha – that’s funny. I guess you’ve never studied US politics. The two parties pick who runs in the primaries, and they fund the candidates that their donors want them to fund, so those candidates (from both parties) run against each other, and so about 99.9% of the time, one of those two donor-selected candidates wins the election, and then goes on to represent the donor class at the federal or state level.We the people have the word on who represents us
Do you guys know the meaning of “aristocracy?” It’s not an organization, and it’s not a mystery. It’s a class of people who have the wealth and political power to control the legislative process.not a mystery organisation.
I don’t know what you’re talking about here. I’m talking about politics and economics. It’s spelled “poignant,” btw.The power struggle is all about keeping or giving. It has been up for grabs for decades and know the keepers, who remained silent for purposes of dignity, said enough is enough. The shocking and poinient fact that shook it up was the lack of boundaries concerning freedoms. There were none as fear of being viewed as prejudice ( Trump ) was infectious.
The gut reaction is the primary tool used to manipulate the public – by simply framing issues in either a favorable or unfavorable light – often through the choice of language used, people respond emotionally the way that the corporate news media wants you to respond.I am a street level person who goes by my gut.
I have no idea what you’re talking about here. Lots of nations have freedom. And if Americans have become exceptionally “soft-headed” (whatever that means), I would think that it has more to do with the comparatively poor quality of our educational system and the poor quality of our corporate news media.Promise lands have manifested from our freedom and those who have lived under it have become as pigfarmer mentioned, soft headed. It's why we are firming up.
The first part of that is correct, but you haven’t realized yet that those large media corporations/organizations act essentially as the megaphone of the government, aka, the Deep State, which is in turn predominantly controlled by the donor class. All of the major corporations and the government work hand-in-hand now; the oligarchy of the United States consists of media corporations, defense corporations, banking corporations, etc., and the billionaires who own them. The politicians are basically just their employees.Large media organisations in advanced countries who massage emotion by choosing the theme have more oligarchial qualities than government.
You don’t have anything to fear, other than the fact that they’ll ignore you. Your representatives don’t represent you; they represent their donors.Agreed. Sometimes getting what you think you want doesn't always work out the way you had hoped but I make a point to exercise my right to vote and speak my mind to my representatives as I see fit and can do so without fear of anything.
You shouldn’t knock the computer – the internet is the most powerful library system ever built, if it’s used that way. But I also grew up in a political family because my father was a politician, and that's a helpful way to get a clear view of the playing field.Also agreed, to a point. Much of what I was saying in response to your initial post was based on bad-breath level experience not from sitting in front of a computer.
That's interesting, While my ideas are different. You consider the soul to have its own lifespan, So the soul is not eternal? in your view?To me the soul is another 'body' for consciousness but of a different resonance, place, and lifespan...
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Where do you and pigfarmer get the idea that we’re talking about a “secret” and/or a “conspiracy?” It’s neither. The corruption is right out in the open; it’s not a secret and it’s not a conspiracy – it’s just graft, plain and simple. And that’s as old as human civilization itself.
Haha – that’s funny. I guess you’ve never studied US politics. The two parties pick who runs in the primaries, and they fund the candidates that their donors want them to fund, so those candidates (from both parties) run against each other, and so about 99.9% of the time, one of those two donor-selected candidates wins the election, and then goes on to represent the donor class at the federal or state level.
I have no idea what you’re talking about here. Lots of nations have freedom. And if Americans have become exceptionally “soft-headed” (whatever that means), I would think that it has more to do with the comparatively poor quality of our educational system and the poor quality of our corporate news media.
You don’t have anything to fear, other than the fact that they’ll ignore you. Your representatives don’t represent you; they represent their donors.