Travis Walton UFO abduction was a Hoax, admits crew boss
JahaRa
Noble
But he didn't know that.
nivek
As Above So Below
Yep this is true, in many rural areas people simply don't trust the police and don't bother the police unlike others would in a city setting...Even if trust wasn't a factor people in rural settings will call family or friends for help first before seeking out the county sheriff...I've lived in the big city for short times of my life when I used to travel but most of my life I've lived in rural settings and prefer living in the country much more...
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nivek
As Above So Below
Word spreads faster than you realize in rural areas, when someone sees the sheriff at your house they automatically think something bad happened because people generally don't call the sheriff unless it's really serious and everyone quickly knows...People in rural areas prefer to take care of things themselves and/or with family or friends helping...A sheriff coming to your house is looked upon as intrusive, even when they're there to help...
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pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
Ahhh! That's the basic premise behind David Paulides with the whole missing 411 thing. The Park police have the same list.
If one of my family members went missing I would be out looking myself no matter where I lived. If they suddenly reappeared then I'd call the police. Even in the most remote areas there's somebody. Maybe hours away, but a state trooper, somebody. If for no other reason than to call off any sort of search. If my family member was dazed and incoherent then I'd be looking for medical attention.
Anything else would be after that.
I can't remember who picked him up - his brother? It was more than one person. Did Travis dial a phone # ? Even if he was a mess from his experience and can blame whoever picked him up for what happened next, isn't it coincidental that ufologists found a ufo experience? It has been a while since I read anything on this, maybe I have the details wrong but it never sat quite right for me.
HAL9000
Honorable
nivek
As Above So Below
Apparently Ryan Gordon mis-quoted or manipulated the interview in some way to make it appear Mike Rogers said it was all a hoax when he didn't say that...At least that is what Mike Rogers is saying now...
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Double Nought Spy
Celestial
Garner was from Oklahoma, and did a spot-on suspicious rural law enforcement officer. He wasn't buying any flying saucer nonsense for a second, and there was a person missing under very strange circumstances. I looked for a good clip of his performance, but came up empty.
Rural cops know the local "perps" quite well, who they are related to, what their habits are, who their enemies are. Often, they know them on sight, and might say something to them like "OK Larry, it's time for you to go home. I don't think you want me looking inside your car."
I'm pretty sure all the crew members were Mormon. Arizona is not Utah. Calling family long before calling any official makes perfect sense in that context.
Double Nought Spy
Celestial
Wow.
I haven't bothered to go look up what Kevin Randle posted about Rogers and Walton recently, but it involved some fairly mild quotes from Rogers saying he was no longer supporting Walton in his story, or something along those lines. Sounded like typical family squabbling, and the whole thing was rather vague. It was a long way from Rogers "admitting" to a hoax. I think I'll wait till Randle is past being pissed about the official Pentagon report, and gets around to parsing all this. He too has spoken with those guys over the years, and I think he has a generally favorable opinion of them.
That video makes it sound like this Gordon person is another Klass wannabe. If Klass had managed to buy an "admission" from them, it would be as worthless as his other "research". In other words, I hold Klass in approximately the same esteem as a cockroach. Phil Klass wannabes make me want to dig out my pointy toed boots, wherever they are.
dr wu
Noble
Don't know about that area but 911 was inplemented in the 70's and was created as early as 1968. Just a side note....but regarding calling I also think I would call my best friend, wife, or dad first before the police in those times.
dr wu
Noble
I think there was question of foul play at first. That would be the go to answer since most murders and missing like tnhat are often related to family or friends.
Some one asked what their motivation for a hoax would be....most people do them simply for the fun ..the kicks..the rush etc.; many ufo hoaxes were likely done for similar reasons and not for the hope of money. For all we know they were all drinking and came up with it and then after it was done , well, too late to go back.
Double Nought Spy
Celestial
Stories like that unravel pretty quickly though, especially with law enforcement staring the participants down, assholes dangling checks, reporters digging around like demented hygienists, family tensions, and so on. It was a motley group of guys who knew each other but were not best buddies, none of them well off. I've worked on crews like that, and it's damn near impossible for me to imagine them all sticking to some bullshit story the way they did, especially if it was some hastily concocted, improbable tale with no clear payoff. I'm not saying it really happened, but I just don't see anything to make me bet against it, as ridiculous as it seems.
I don't think the fictional horror movie does anything to help, either way. It just muddies up an already weird story. Walton seemed to be like a lot of other people claiming abduction, with vague and disjointed memories that didn't make sense.
Rick Hunter
Celestial
Didn't they all tell the same story when interviewed separately by the cops? You might get two people to recite a cover story properly when interviewed separately but not four, and I'm sure the cops knew which buttons to press to cause them to roll on each other. This may be the biggest thing in favor of their credibility.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
I didn't even grow up in a setting like that and we knew the local cops by name.