EVPs...The Hidden Science

coubob

Celestial
I get the impression that he was rather scruffy and unkept?
Yes, he was in about 75 +/- 10 didnt have much and was on ssi, he took in other homeless so they could get their act together and get off the street, was a righteous dude. long white shaggy hair and beard and cowboy hat, long sleeve button shirt. blah blah blah sat on his front porch drinkin and whatnot playing his acoustic 6 string. his boys were always roughhousers and fightin out in the street, He was a Cheyenne, i also have a bit,and because of that is why i think he took liken to me. he called it a bond.
 

Georgek

George
His age...I could not detect but I can sense him around.
Folks do not generally believe that I can do this..but I can...lol

Cheyenne?

We Brits only know that Cheyenne was on the telly Clint Walker back in the early 1960s in cowboy films.

I think he was called Cheyenne Bowdy? Some of the GranPops here may remember him?
We had a stone cast figure of him and used his head as a door stop.

Ahh..you mean the Indian tribe...lol Good on you!

George
 

coubob

Celestial
His age...I could not detect but I can sense him around.
Folks do not generally believe that I can do this..but I can...lol

Cheyenne?

We Brits only know that Cheyenne was on the telly Clint Walker back in the early 1960s in cowboy films.

I think he was called Cheyenne Bowdy? Some of the GranPops here may remember him?
We had a stone cast figure of him and used his head as a door stop.

Ahh..you mean the Indian tribe...lol Good on you!

George
I have kinda known that old guy was around and is cool you picked up on that. what about a little girl. I have often seen and felt the presence of a little girl ghost,looks around 4 years old, she hangs around across the street mostly but i had a game cam pic of her peeking in at the bottom of the front screen door at one time. Its weird but at times when storms are loud its like i can feel her grasping on my leg when i`m outside.
 

Georgek

George
I have kinda known that old guy was around and is cool you picked up on that. what about a little girl. I have often seen and felt the presence of a little girl ghost,looks around 4 years old, she hangs around across the street mostly but i had a game cam pic of her peeking in at the bottom of the front screen door at one time. Its weird but at times when storms are loud its like i can feel her grasping on my leg when i`m outside.
Leave that one with me for a while.

I am just wondering whether I am picking things up from you as opposed to the actual events?

Do you have a psychic ability that you had not told us about Coubob...lol?

George
 

coubob

Celestial
Do you have a psychic ability that you had not told us about Coubob...lol?
I been told i`m gifted, i notice things with clairvoyant, clairempathy , clairaudient. and weird as it may be an evil-eye that i have to be careful with.
 

Georgek

George
I just wanted to know who and what I am dealing with.

It comes from your Indian ancestors Coubob.
The pictures that come to my mind are strong and usually a full page in seconds.

Your thought patterns intervene with mine as I am seeing pictures which seem to be coming from your eyes?
Did at some time in your family history a curse was laid down from generation to generation?

I get a feeling of 'not belonging' ? Loneliness...isolation?
 

coubob

Celestial
I just wanted to know who and what I am dealing with.

It comes from your Indian ancestors Coubob.
The pictures that come to my mind are strong and usually a full page in seconds.

Your thought patterns intervene with mine as I am seeing pictures which seem to be coming from your eyes?
Did at some time in your family history a curse was laid down from generation to generation?

I get a feeling of 'not belonging' ? Loneliness...isolation?

I`m not that much Indian at all really, maybe a 1/16th, but my Iowa Indian friend says it don`t matter how much. He was mad the first time i talked to him about my visions, cause he never has them and is full blood. He told me my ancestors must been a medicine man.

Seeing pictures coming from my eyes? Oh no. LOL . Thats something i have tried doing with others.

A family curse? My dad always said we also had some gypsy blood also, Pennsyvania black dutch , German Gypsy, or whatever, no idea really. or if that matters, i have wondered about a curse at times, like for the fact there is less than 1500 people with my surname in the U.S. last time i checked. or maybe your picking up that i can cast them.

Not belonging' ? Loneliness...isolation? I was a only child and have been like that my whole life, even now stuck with a crappy job, cause its easier to be able to take care of my wife with all her health issues. but i`m not bitchin about it. i have known what my life was going to be like since i had my near death experience, my time here is for her.
 

Georgek

George
I`m not that much Indian at all really, maybe a 1/16th, but my Iowa Indian friend says it don`t matter how much. He was mad the first time i talked to him about my visions, cause he never has them and is full blood. He told me my ancestors must been a medicine man.

Seeing pictures coming from my eyes? Oh no. LOL . Thats something i have tried doing with others.

A family curse? My dad always said we also had some gypsy blood also, Pennsyvania black dutch , German Gypsy, or whatever, no idea really. or if that matters, i have wondered about a curse at times, like for the fact there is less than 1500 people with my surname in the U.S. last time i checked. or maybe your picking up that i can cast them.

Not belonging' ? Loneliness...isolation? I was a only child and have been like that my whole life, even now stuck with a crappy job, cause its easier to be able to take care of my wife with all her health issues. but i`m not bitchin about it. i have known what my life was going to be like since i had my near death experience, my time here is for her.
Hello Coubob,

Thanks for your reply.

No this is not what I am picking up. Perhaps you can put some other light on it?

The feeling that I am getting is-referring to your Indian heritage.
Your ancestor I feel had got ousted from his village because of the mixing of Indian blood. He was sent away as a loner as I see him on a hill looking into the smoke of a fire he had lit.

The curse seems to come from his tribe which is being passed onto his kin?
This is no reflection on yourself.

Any feedback on this would be interesting.
I will soon work on that child that you mentioned.

Regards

George:)

(hey the rest of you guys are getting your money's worth here...lol)
 

coubob

Celestial
Hello Coubob,

Thanks for your reply.

No this is not what I am picking up. Perhaps you can put some other light on it?

The feeling that I am getting is-referring to your Indian heritage.
Your ancestor I feel had got ousted from his village because of the mixing of Indian blood. He was sent away as a loner as I see him on a hill looking into the smoke of a fire he had lit.

The curse seems to come from his tribe which is being passed onto his kin?
This is no reflection on yourself.

Any feedback on this would be interesting.
I will soon work on that child that you mentioned.

Regards

George:)

(hey the rest of you guys are getting your money's worth here...lol)
I only know that my grandpa`s grandma was a full blood indian, and theres some on my dads side also but no idea of how or where.
 

Georgek

George
I only know that my grandpa`s grandma was a full blood indian, and theres some on my dads side also but no idea of how or where.

It is your dad's side...that I am pulled to.

I found this on the Internet.

Native American tradition[edit]
In some First Nations[3] and Native American ceremonies, certain herbs are traditionally used to purify or bless people and places. For instance, some cultures use the smoke of burning red cedar as part of purification and healing ceremonies,

I somehow feel that a certain isolation took place based on the mixing of native Indian blood.
Mixing the blood race of an Indian I feel would have led to denouncement or rejection by the tribe concerned.

Many Red Indians resented the Caucasian impurity of the aggressor and i feel that a mixed marriage would not have been in tradition with the survival of the Indian race.?

It is for this reason why I may be seeing loneliness and isolation within your Indian family tree?

If this was going against Indian rights of race survival, being unable to stop a mixed marriage I somehow feel that the tribe would curse the marriage by isolation as not to allow prosperity within the white man's province?

The curse would pass from generation to generation as to cause a falling apart of family virtues bringing misery and possible death through this line of descendent to yourself.

An envelope of sadness I feel with this ancestor through rejection and misery.

Any such curse can be broken and I feel that spiritual healing may be the answer.


Regards

George
 

Georgek

George
I have kinda known that old guy was around and is cool you picked up on that. what about a little girl. I have often seen and felt the presence of a little girl ghost,looks around 4 years old, she hangs around across the street mostly but i had a game cam pic of her peeking in at the bottom of the front screen door at one time. Its weird but at times when storms are loud its like i can feel her grasping on my leg when i`m outside.

The feeling I am getting from this, is around 1930s-1950s

Age wise I would say about 6-8 yrs?
Did this one live across your road?
There is a feeling of animosity between mother and daughter.
I feel that the child being from a one parent family had an extra burden on the mother as this was not an affluent period.

A resentment flared towards the child as she would often go and play by herself on the street. Hop scotch or something similar with occasional skipping.

Typically in pig tails she wore a cotton dress.

I think she was struck by a truck whilst playing as the scene I am getting is old vehicles.
The mother is full of guilt having neglected her daughter with a strong feeling of remorse and sadness.

I feel that it was not her time to die and that she may not know she is in spirit.
Did not get any connection with you as she seems to be looking for comfort.

Quite skinny and Caucasian.
 

coubob

Celestial
It is your dad's side...that I am pulled to.

I found this on the Internet.

Native American tradition[edit]
In some First Nations[3] and Native American ceremonies, certain herbs are traditionally used to purify or bless people and places. For instance, some cultures use the smoke of burning red cedar as part of purification and healing ceremonies,

I somehow feel that a certain isolation took place based on the mixing of native Indian blood.
Mixing the blood race of an Indian I feel would have led to denouncement or rejection by the tribe concerned.

Many Red Indians resented the Caucasian impurity of the aggressor and i feel that a mixed marriage would not have been in tradition with the survival of the Indian race.?

It is for this reason why I may be seeing loneliness and isolation within your Indian family tree?

If this was going against Indian rights of race survival, being unable to stop a mixed marriage I somehow feel that the tribe would curse the marriage by isolation as not to allow prosperity within the white man's province?

The curse would pass from generation to generation as to cause a falling apart of family virtues bringing misery and possible death through this line of descendent to yourself.

An envelope of sadness I feel with this ancestor through rejection and misery.

Any such curse can be broken and I feel that spiritual healing may be the answer.


Regards

George
Well i don`t know about the Indian in him other than it was less than a 3/32, but on my moms side she could still get on the roll but has not and i dont have enough to, but her and her 9 siblings all went to a Indian school in southern Oklahoma,(empire state maybe) and they all got harassed. but a mixed marrage or premartial sex was a taboo in my upbringing. And yes i do need a cleansing here and to wear or keep an Apache tear on me all times i`ve been told.
 

coubob

Celestial
The feeling I am getting from this, is around 1930s-1950s

Age wise I would say about 6-8 yrs?
Did this one live across your road?
There is a feeling of animosity between mother and daughter.
I feel that the child being from a one parent family had an extra burden on the mother as this was not an affluent period.

A resentment flared towards the child as she would often go and play by herself on the street. Hop scotch or something similar with occasional skipping.

Typically in pig tails she wore a cotton dress.

I think she was struck by a truck whilst playing as the scene I am getting is old vehicles.
The mother is full of guilt having neglected her daughter with a strong feeling of remorse and sadness.

I feel that it was not her time to die and that she may not know she is in spirit.
Did not get any connection with you as she seems to be looking for comfort.

Quite skinny and Caucasian.
That would be about right, with the age and i have only seen her with a cotton dress,bushy unkept hair,blackeyes,ghostly to say the least,and i was just talking to a neighbor today, he just moved in a while back, but we got to talkin about his dog going missing in the swampy marsh along the RR tracks behind them, and how i`ve seen cougars and rattlers back there, and mentioned some bigfoot stories back there as well, but we got to ghost and he brought up he seen a little girl around 8 in a cotton dress , before i mentioned it and he said he seen at the same house i have been. Tried doing a search didnt find out much except the was no houses there before 1980 on that side of the road. My house and the one caddie corner from me were built in the 1920`s.. I have tried communicating with her and telling her what to do and i would try to help. I`ll do more searching. reminds me of the full name i heard doing a evp and looked it up and found out his 91 years son lived less than a 1/4 mile away.
 

Georgek

George
That would be about right, with the age and i have only seen her with a cotton dress,bushy unkept hair,blackeyes,ghostly to say the least,and i was just talking to a neighbor today, he just moved in a while back, but we got to talkin about his dog going missing in the swampy marsh along the RR tracks behind them, and how i`ve seen cougars and rattlers back there, and mentioned some bigfoot stories back there as well, but we got to ghost and he brought up he seen a little girl around 8 in a cotton dress , before i mentioned it and he said he seen at the same house i have been. Tried doing a search didnt find out much except the was no houses there before 1980 on that side of the road. My house and the one caddie corner from me were built in the 1920`s.. I have tried communicating with her and telling her what to do and i would try to help. I`ll do more searching. reminds me of the full name i heard doing a evp and looked it up and found out his 91 years son lived less than a 1/4 mile away.

Hi coubob,

The bushy unkept hair does not come across with me? If she is commonly seen across your road, there has to be a reason?
She must be 'pulled' to that spot?

I can see from your location that you come from Oklahoma? The 'Depression' had hit farming hard and this would account for the poverty that I mentioned.

Ah...I see what you mean about seeing her across the road, that she actually lived at your house because there were no other houses until the 1980s.
This is why I put a question mark asking whether she lived across the road?

The date that I mentioned would start to fit.

Check your house register to find out whether a single mother and her daughter lived alone at your house around the 1930s-1940s?

I am seeing the Depression as I write as if someone is showing me the collapse of the stock exchange on Wall Street New York?

I have just been doing some reading on your city and have found that the Great Dustbowl in Oklahoma was the probably cause of an oil glut based on the agricultural economy that sent share prices falling.
The repercussion of that event caused 20% of your city folks to emigrate Westward.

Let me know how you get on and work on the Depression as well.

George
 

Georgek

George
Well i don`t know about the Indian in him other than it was less than a 3/32, but on my moms side she could still get on the roll but has not and i dont have enough to, but her and her 9 siblings all went to a Indian school in southern Oklahoma,(empire state maybe) and they all got harassed. but a mixed marrage or premartial sex was a taboo in my upbringing. And yes i do need a cleansing here and to wear or keep an Apache tear on me all times i`ve been told.

I know from my heritage that it was always rammed down my throat that the Greeks were the most powerful and cleverest people in the world and to be proud of that because they civilised the world.

Even now, they do not like foreigners and treat others as inferior. I am not saying that this is true, but they are a very proud nation. As so are the Germans and many other races.

We tend to stick together and marry our on kind. When their husbands die, the widows wear black for the rest of their lives, over here they are usually down at the pub the next day. May not be a bad idea...lol?

People say that we are all the same and being different is being raciest?

We are made different and when that happens we act differently. Brits do not understand this?

The average Brit is made from a mixture of races and have lost their identity. From Anglo Saxon, Viking, Norman and so on. There is no real heritage. We are proud of our roots as so where the Indians.

Throughout history the Red Indian was classed as the bad ones. America was their country for God's sake.
So equally they too were proud.
They were harassed because they were different and believed in themselves This is something you too must be proud off.
Equally so, they must been against mixed marriages as this would definitely have been an issue before your time.

It is not your fault as you are the result.

This makes you alienated in respect that you should not be here.
As this is what I believe was so!

It is difficult to go back three or four generations to see the issues but there were some.

This resulted with a curse and through the ages distorted it's way through various avenues.
A curse is kept alive by belief and this is what you have been given. The source may be wrong as Black Dutch or German Gypsy but the effect remains. It is purely kept alive with it's potency through changing ways.

A curse on it's own is nothing. What gives it potency is your own powerful mind.

Get it removed by which that in itself is the belief that removes it.
The sentence:- "A travelling man" is what I am picking up.
You will know more about this?
Or
"A rolling stone gathers no moss"

George
 
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