fUSION Anomaly.

[Kilburn]

I find myself agreeing with Wu a lot in this thread.

 

[humanoidlord]

I would ask again why you use the word 'magical'..? That's a subjective interpretation.
But the bigfoot sightings in conjunction with ufos are few and far between and not well documented...as are the alleged ufo sightings at Loch Ness.
And only a few ufos were seen in the Mothman case with Keel in 1966 and I know of few others that are well documented.
I place most of that material in the very grey basket.
So-called paranormal events have happened in some ufo cases both before and after sightings. To ascribe magical to them is an interpretive problem. Again we don't know what it represents and there is no reason to assume it's magical as in the strict meaning of the word.

magical in the sense it defies the laws of nature
there have been a lot of sightings of hairy naked men exiting ufos, not many nowdays but an lot during the golden age of the humanoids (50's to 70's)
there also have been sightings of anomalous black cats and ghosts in the loch ness, it seems we are dealing with an hotspot of .... something
there were an modest number of ufo sightings relationed to mothman
again i am talking magical in the sense of nature defying

 

[humanoidlord]

I find myself agreeing with Wu a lot in this thread.

me too
he has an lot of good ideas

 

[dr wu]

magical in the sense it defies the laws of nature
there have been a lot of sightings of hairy naked men exiting ufos, not many nowdays but an lot during the golden age of the humanoids (50's to 70's)
there also have been sightings of anomalous black cats and ghosts in the loch ness, it seems we are dealing with an hotspot of .... something
there were an modest number of ufo sightings relationed to mothman
again i am talking magical in the sense of nature defying

'Magical in the sense of defying the laws of nature'.....I can see why someone would interpret it in that way in some of the high strangeness cases. But I would add that perhaps we don't have a thorough handle on how all the 'laws of nature' work.
I have read many ufo books over the last 40 years,,,there aren't many cases of bigfoot or hairy apes in conjunction with ufos, though I will say that the early cases of 'humanoids' in the 50 and 60's and even some earlier reports are certainly weird and entertaining. What I find interesting is that many or most of the early cases the 'aliens' looked a lot like us (or like small Asian people)...only later as time went by did they start to look like 'grey aliens'. Did the 'aliens' visiting earth suddenly shift or is something else going on?
The Loch Ness events are interesting on multiple levels and many strange things have been 'seen ' there including UFO's, other weird beings and creatures, and Men In Black also. BTW Aleister Crowley, the occultist., had a cottage on or near the lake which was also owned for a while by Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin.
Again the only ufo events I know of connected to 'Mothman' was in the Point Pleasant VA cases that Keel wrote about.
A very fun read but as a writer Keel had a way of embellishing his stories.

The house at the Loch.....
Boleskine House - Wikipedia

 

[humanoidlord]

'Magical in the sense of defying the laws of nature'.....I can see why someone would interpret it in that way in some of the high strangeness cases. But I would add that perhaps we don't have a thorough handle on how all the 'laws of nature' work.
I have read many ufo books over the last 40 years,,,there aren't many cases of bigfoot or hairy apes in conjunction with ufos, though I will say that the early cases of 'humanoids' in the 50 and 60's and even some earlier reports are certainly weird and entertaining. What I find interesting is that many or most of the early cases the 'aliens' looked a lot like us (or like small Asian people)...only later as time went by did they start to look like 'grey aliens'. Did the 'aliens' visiting earth suddenly shift or is something else going on?
The Loch Ness events are interesting on multiple levels and many strange things have been 'seen ' there including UFO's, other weird beings and creatures, and Men In Black also. BTW Aleister Crowley, the occultist., had a cottage on or near the lake which was also owned for a while by Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin.
Again the only ufo events I know of connected to 'Mothman' was in the Point Pleasant VA cases that Keel wrote about.
A very fun read but as a writer Keel had a way of embellishing his stories.

The house at the Loch.....
Boleskine House - Wikipedia

yeah we dont know, though we have more or less a grasp of the laws
i noticed that too, what happened to the original humanoids? why were they replaced by those boring weirdos?
oh yes boleskine house, i had forgot about that little tale
recently the mothman is being seen again in chicago and one of the sightings reported an odd green light along with him

 

[dr wu]

yeah we dont know, though we have more or less a grasp of the laws
i noticed that too, what happened to the original humanoids? why were they replaced by those boring weirdos?
oh yes boleskine house, i had forgot about that little tale
recently the mothman is being seen again in chicago and one of the sightings reported an odd green light along with him

Do you have a good link to the Chicago Mothman cases and any pics...? I'll Google to see what I can find.

 

[dr wu]

Found this
Column: Chicago's 'Mothman' stories are good paranormal entertainment

https://www.chicagoreader.com/Blead...ing-humanoid-sightings-over-chicago-this-year

 

[humanoidlord]

Do you have a good link to the Chicago Mothman cases and any pics...? I'll Google to see what I can find.

the website phamtoms and monsters run by lon strickler is source number 1 for this stuff

 

[nivek]

what happened to the original humanoids?

What do you mean by original humanoids?...Before humans?...

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[humanoidlord]

What do you mean by original humanoids?...Before humans?...

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nope, i am talking about the original UFOnauts, those funny astronaut suited men that greeted random men in the country side, they were replaced by the dull and robotic grays

 

[nivek]

nope, i am talking about the original UFOnauts, those funny astronaut suited men that greeted random men in the country side, they were replaced by the dull and robotic grays

That's because we stopped detonating nuclear devices all the time...

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[humanoidlord]

That's because we stopped detonating nuclear devices all the time...

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that statament has debunked so many times its not even funny anymore
the number of sentient beings in the universe with nuclear capability probally grows each day, due to the size of the universe, it would be impossible to visit them all
and the explosive nuclear waves will be very hard to detect the time they arrive to a civilization

 

[nivek]

the number of sentient beings in the universe with nuclear capability probally grows each day

Not at all, not every species is going to follow the same development, many will not even design much less build nuclear devices...

and the explosive nuclear waves will be very hard to detect the time they arrive to a civilization

What is a nuclear wave?...I'm not talking about physical detection...

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[humanoidlord]

Not at all, not every species is going to follow the same development, many will not even design much less build nuclear devices...

nuclear devices aren't that hard to build, once you know what radiation is, the rest is easy

What is a nuclear wave?...I'm not talking about physical detection...

so you are talking about what?

 

[nivek]

nuclear devices aren't that hard to build, once you know what radiation is, the rest is easy

so you are talking about what?

They are not hard to build but not every species is going to do it, I doubt every species develops through a warlike era or kills one another like we do...

Nuclear detonation rips through certain frequencies and these can be detected rom vast distances and through dimensions especially when advanced technology makes use of those frequencies...

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[humanoidlord]

They are not hard to build but not every species is going to do it, I doubt every species develops through a warlike era or kills one another like we do...

sentience is a evolutionary trait caused by predator behaviour, a good amount of the sentient races are warmongers

Nuclear detonation rips through certain frequencies and these can be detected rom vast distances and through dimensions especially when advanced technology makes use of those frequencies...

never heard of that and i don't think its possible

 

[nivek]

never heard of that and i don't think its possible

Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean its bunk...There are many things going on you know nothing about, same goes for me...You might learn something new...

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[humanoidlord]

Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean its bunk...There are many things going on you know nothing about, same goes for me...You might learn something new...

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there are so many things happening in this and other universes, that eventually the signal gets muddled

 

[nivek]

there are so many things happening in this and other universes, that eventually the signal gets muddled

Now you're grasping for straws, guessing, you don't know that for sure...

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[humanoidlord]

Now you're grasping for straws, guessing, you don't know that for sure...

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its a fact, there are many habitable planets and even non-habitable ones have a lot of stuff going on