I know people are sick of hearing me talk, But I still need a place to rant.

[Shadowprophet]

My facebook was bombarded with promotional ads for Rick and Morty. some sort of contest was being held to determine which random person would get a cameo in season 4 of rick and morty.

The catch was to enter you had to donate, Without thinking, I was about to donate, Then I saw the organization the donations are for. Planned Parenthood.

Now, Don't get me wrong. Abortion is possibly the worst idea ever. I only support abortion under very clear circumstances, Like if the pregnancy poses a considerable health risk to the woman, or if the baby would be born terribly sick or deformed.

To be honest, People who are pro-choice on the idea of abortion are worse than a racist serial killer nazi with a bondage fetish in my eyes. Everyone has buttons and Abortion is one of my buttons. If a woman doesn't want a baby then maybe they should practice safe sex. It's too late in my opinion to decide you don't want a child after your pregnant. But everyone's entitled to an opinion right? even if that opinion is that supporting abortion makes a person worse than scum right?

I don't know, The world had become so liberal. It's almost impossible to have a personal opinion on something anymore and not be attacked by people for having that opinion.

Abortion, the idea of it makes me sick. The execution of it. It seems no different than murder to me. Giving it a pretty name like pro-choice does nothing to make it (not murder) in my eyes honestly.

 

[3FEL9]

I think it should be the other way around. Pregnancy should not be free.

Women wanting children should apply to a scientific board proving that they can support their child for some 20 years and provide a sound healthy upbringing. First after an extensive review the go ahead would be granted ( or denied )

 

[Shadowprophet]

I think it should be the other way around. Pregnancy should not be free.

Women wanting children should apply to a scientific board proving that they can support their child for some 20 years
and provide a sound healthy upbringing..

I agree. There should be stipulations to who should be legally allowed to have children. But that leads down the road of eugenics, Imagine a time when genetic research allows the board to decide that certain people can not have children because those children would likely become criminals or be more prone to be racist or other things like that. And while that does sound good on paper, Imagine a world, Where someone you know or are close friends with isn't allowed to have children with the person they love because the board decided, No there is a 50% chance there child could be born with a tendency to have epileptic seizures. I will admit though, That is looking at the situation as if the board were corrupt. I'm almost certain it wouldn't play out like that in actual practice bro.

 

[3FEL9]

I wasnt takin the genetics into consideration.. merely the parents fitness as parents

 

[Shadowprophet]

I wasnt takin the genetics into consideration.. merely the parents fitness as parents

I agree on that. The fitness of the parents in both mental and financial should be heavily considered as well

 

[Caeldeth]

Abortion is a women's choice and should not be governed by anybody ever under any circumstances. Sometimes practicing "safe sex" doesn't always work because condoms break. Birth control isn't fool proof either as my wife is living proof of that. She got pregnant when there was a 99% chance she couldn't. I guess I am a terrible person I agree to give women the right to do with there bodies as they please. This is the age of human kind where everybody has to but into everybodys business. Why doesn't society just mind there own business? It not hurting you directly so why the hell do you care?

 

[Shadowprophet]

Abortion is a women's choice and should not be governed by anybody ever under any circumstances. Sometimes practicing "safe sex" doesn't always work because condoms break. Birth control isn't fool proof either as my wife is living proof of that. She got pregnant when there was a 99% chance she couldn't. I guess I am a terrible person I agree to give women the right to do with there bodies as they please. This is the age of human kind where everybody has to but into everybodys business. Why doesn't society just mind there own business? It not hurting you directly so why the hell do you care?

You don't want to know the real reason I care. But I will tell you anyway. I never got to have children of my own. Two miscarriages, I was never able to bring myself to try again. I don't feel like people have the right to pro-choice. I feel like that's a modern opinionated ideology. To me, that's like saying, A parent has the right to do whatever they want with a child as long as it fell out of them. I Simply don't agree. If a woman doesn't want to have children. They should stop having sex or at least practice safe sex. It's murder, plain and simple in my eyes. There are lots of reasons why I care. That potential child didn't ask to be conceived. however when it is conceived. It has its own life, it's own future, it's own choices. Deciding. that the woman can choose to abort simply because she likes raw dog sex is simply a convenience for poor decisions, I stand against abortion. Plain and simple. I feel that people who support Abortion as a pro-choice matter lack something of compassion for a being who had no choice in its own conception or ultimately it's own fate.

You say people should butt out of everyone else's business. But once a child is born the government and state has a lot of say so on how people treat and raise their children. And let me ask you something. if it wasn't a hot-button topic then why is it next to impossible for a woman to get an abortion at eleven months? And here is where it gets sketchy, At what point in developmental stages is it okay to kill a baby? Should a woman be able to get an abortion when the child is three? Like returning an item they didn't want back to the store?

It's murder. it's that simple.

Is it alive? Yes..

It abortion killing it? Yes..

This is why I'm against it. A person should not possess the choice to murder. That's like conjoined twins getting into an argument, one side kills the other. Is it murder or self-mutilation? I simply have a strong opinion about the issue. And I do honestly feel like people who carry out abortions are in fact inescapably murderers.

 

[Caeldeth]

So you believe a women's body should be under government control basically. You agree that a women body should be governed by a bunch of rich old men. It isn't about "pro choice" it's about giving a women rights. How would you like it if your penis was governed by a bunch of rich old women? I'm sure you wouldn't like that one bit. So what gives you the right to tell women what they can and can't do with there own bodies? I think a bunch of people who are against this topic in this day and age should just move themselves to a communist country so you can see what it's like being governed in such a way. Like I said this is the generation of people like you butting into other people's business when it doesn't concern you. It's there life, not yours. Deal with it.

 

[Shadowprophet]

So you believe a women's body should be under government control basically. You agree that a women body should be governed by a bunch of rich old men. It isn't about "pro choice" it's about giving a women rights. How would you like it if your penis was governed by a bunch of rich old women?

I mean, This will definitely hurt my cause. But the idea of a bunch of rich old women being in control of my penis is kind of a hot idea lol, but I'm weird. But no. There is a lot I don't agree with in the political structure. But. It's not that complicated with me. This isn't one of those deeply thought out science thesis things that I do. This opinion is just about the act of abortion. It's not based on deeply prolonged analytic thought. It's one of the few topics that's really based on emotion for me. I always wanted my own children. Just knowing there are people out there who can have children and those people don't want them. It's upsetting to me on some weird emotional level that I don't really have a good explanation for. This is one of the few opinions I have that isn't based deeply in fact's and figures. It just boils down to how I feel about Abortion in light of never being able to have my own children. And some people could say. that's an unjustified act on my part. But, Who is perfect. I just hate the idea of it is all.

 

[Ras]

Im very disappointed to hear this..

My dear "males", you have no rights to speak about abortion, it's a woman's choice and should not be interfered by anyone.. Shadow, u should stay in Philippines, its a living prove of what u've suggest, but dont come complaining here if you see slums, poverty, robbers and etc. Those are the product of your suggestion, you should embrace it.

How banning abortion in the Philippines kills three women a day

The reality of abortion in the Philippines

 

[Caeldeth]

The people that scream about how abortion is bad are the same people screaming about how people don't work and collect welfare. You will be seeing a whole lot more of that if abortion would be outlawed. Kids don't take care of themselves, and money doesn't grow on trees. You would be seeing a massive surge in poverty and crime. You would also be seeing a whole lot of broken children because they would be put up for adoption. The massive surge of orphans would mean many of them would live life foster home to foster home. That's not good for a child's mind.

 

[Kchoo]

If a law was passed saying we could not eat meat or drink, there would be plenty of folks in a speak easy...ordering bourbon a a burger.

You cannot control free will.

Period.

 

[Shadowprophet]

Im very disappointed to hear this..

My dear "males", you have no rights to speak about abortion, it's a woman's choice and should not be interfered by anyone.. Shadow, u should stay in Philippines, its a living prove of what u've suggest, but dont come complaining here if you see slums, poverty, robbers and etc. Those are the product of your suggestion, you should embrace it.

How banning abortion in the Philippines kills three women a day

The reality of abortion in the Philippines

Sorry Diva We agree on a lot of issues, I still don't accept abortion. As you suggested, I read on this subject deeply. It is terrible that some women are seeking dangerous and illegal methods to abort children. knowing that women are willing to kill themselves in dangerous procedures to risk everything when they could practice abstinence. I still only support Abortion as the last option to save the woman's life. The choice is not simply the woman's choice. The man who got her pregnant should have some kind of input on the issue. I believe it's selfish for a woman to believe it's only her decision when a woman is incapable of getting pregnant asexually.

The Expected father should have some weigh in on the decision.

It's an issue I will stand by no matter what. Abortion literally is killing a baby and I will never support that.
The fact that women are dying by risking dangerous procedures in an attempt to murder children. Maybe that's Karma.

I mean. This isn't an issue. anyone will ever be able to change my opinion on. I have strong feelings about it. and I don't care who it disappoints. This is how I feel about abortion. It's killing. And I don't really care how liberal the rest of the world becomes on this issue. I will never support it.

 

[Dundee]

Im very disappointed to hear this..

My dear "males", you have no rights to speak about abortion, it's a woman's choice and should not be interfered by anyone.. ......................

Hey Diva, while I support abortion for situations such as rape and accidental pregnancy where medical issues prove too great a risk, or young underage girls who make a bad choice, and probably a whole lot of other reasons you could point out.
I don't agree it is totally only a woman's choice. I know that sounds harsh, but it takes two to tango and as a father of 4, i don't believe it should be used as a morning after solution for a careless night by folks at the age of consent. We each have a responsibility for safe sex, and abortion is ending a life. That should not be taken lightly. (I am not suggesting your taking it lightly by the way) Most consenting adults have access to contraception. Also what happens with two consenting adults of a legal age who after a careless night she falls pregnant. But the father does not want abortion, he would be happy to raise and look after the child without the assistance of the mother. That unborn is his child too. I realize the risks and toll child birth takes. As I said I am a father f 4.
But do you see what i am getting at. Abortion has its place, and I support it. But it is not a black and white issue where the father has no rights.

 

[Kchoo]

Ultimately, free will will continue, no matter how anyone feels about it.
No matter what laws you would like to see.

So choices will happen, and choosers don't care about other people's opinions or rules when it comes to their own bodies.

 

[Shadowprophet]

Ultimately, free will will continue, no matter how anyone feels about it.
No matter what laws you would like to see.

So choices will happen, and choosers don't care about other people's opinions or rules when it comes to their own bodies.

That's just the thing though. Those are just my feelings about it. I'm not forcing my will on anyone. But people believe because the baby is in their body that they have complete choice over the matter. Well if they had complete choice over it. They wouldn't have become pregnant, I feel like nature made that choice that a baby was conceived. Why should the woman suddenly possess the choice to choose death when they didn't have the choice to choose life to begin with. But those are just my thoughts on it.

 

[Kchoo]

That's just the thing though. Those are just my feelings about it. I'm not forcing my will on anyone. But people believe because the baby is in their body that they have complete choice over the matter. Well if they had complete choice over it. They wouldn't have become pregnant, I feel like nature made that choice that a baby was conceived. Why should the woman suddenly possess the choice to choose death when they didn't have the choice to choose life to begin with. But those are just my thoughts on it.

Because she can... And always will.

 

[Visenya]

Im very disappointed to hear this..

My dear "males", you have no rights to speak about abortion, it's a woman's choice and should not be interfered by anyone.. Shadow, u should stay in Philippines, its a living prove of what u've suggest, but dont come complaining here if you see slums, poverty, robbers and etc. Those are the product of your suggestion, you should embrace it.

How banning abortion in the Philippines kills three women a day

The reality of abortion in the Philippines

I'm very disappointed, too.

It's a woman's body. It's a woman's choice.

Personally, I don't think I would abort. But I'm not going to call women evil that chose to do so, especially when I don't know their circumstances.

 

[Shadowprophet]

I can't help it, It's my feelings on the issue, If I could change those feelings just because others disagree that would kind of defeat the purposes of having one's own opinions and feelings about an issue wouldn't it?

 

[Shadowprophet]

People are selfish and they live in the moment. No one ever stops and thinks. What if your own parents were people who were all gung-ho for abortion? Would you even be here? Do your own lives matter to you? then why shouldn't that unborn babies life matter. People don't realize. I've never been a follower. I won't be changing my mind about this issue. No matter how it plays out. I think for myself. As I always have. And always will regardless of any group. I will never have my thoughts moderated by others. peace all.