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waitedavid137

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No wonder that you can arbitrarily reduce requirements for negative energy, which means you can drop negative energy to zero.
Actually I mean I can reduce it to a localizable lab producible amount like Casimir plates.
I was suggesting something like that to @Thomas R. Morrison, that one doesn't need negative energy for warp drive. Purely based on common sense. Warp drive has to bubbles, one is pushing one is pulling. Well, everybody knows that you can arrange horses either behind a cart to push it, or in front of cart to pull it. One doesn't need horses both behind and in front of the cart.
Still this break in communication. Warp drive has nothing to do with pushing or pulling. Its is more like you make the road itself go where you want to be. It works via frame dragging. I don't know how much more clearly I can state that.
 

Rick Hunter

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It's a puzzle. Hey, let's ask George Knapp. Mr. Knapp . . . oh . . .

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He has good taste in cats, I can respect that!
 

Dejan Corovic

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Get a regular physics guy like Jeremy AKA alien scientist or someone else on that level to look at what I'm saying to translate.

I am surprised that you reference Alien Scientist as a credible source. I long stopped listening to him, because he sounds as a crazed dilettant who simply throws around pompous sounding scientific terms, which mean nothing when pulled together.

Am I being wrong here?
 
Warp drive has nothing to do with pushing or pulling. Its is more like you make the road itself go where you want to be. It works via frame dragging. I don't know how much more clearly I can state that.
How can it be related to frame-dragging? Every example of frame-dragging (aka "gravitoelectromagnetic induction" in the lingo of the linearized equations) that I've ever seen invokes mass-energy in motion - whether it's mass-energy in rotation or in linear motion, a proximal body gets dragged along with it. But there's always mass-energy in motion. The Alcubierre metric on the other hand is a static field configuration. That seems to bar any frame-dragging effects. Or are you saying that the field itself has an intrinsic momentum that drags the reference frame toward the destination? It's hard to see how that could be possible without mass-energy in motion relative to the ship frame....but then again a lot about GR seems counterintuitive until the fine points are explained clearly.

I am surprised that you reference Alien Scientist as a credible source. I long stopped listening to him, because he sounds as a crazed dilettant who simply throws around pompous sounding scientific terms, which mean nothing when pulled together.

Am I being wrong here?
My limited experience with the Alien Scientist has been very disappointing. I think he has a B.S. in physics, but I've never seen him do anything more complicated than a Fourier transform in his videos - I'd be stunned if he could solve (or even clearly explain) tensor calculus equations. I caught some mistakes in his analysis of the Moscovium debate, and when confronted with them, he just got angry and churlish like a conceited little boy. His ego is the size of Mt. Rushmore. So in addition to being a generally unpleasant person, I haven't seen him offer anything of real scientific value in any of his myriad videos - but he is quick to embrace every cranky "fringe physics" idea that comes along. In my experience he's little more than a B.S. in Physics who thinks that his undergrad degree makes him a god we should all blindly kneel before like General Zod.
 

waitedavid137

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How can it be related to frame-dragging? Every example of frame-dragging (aka "gravitoelectromagnetic induction" in the lingo of the linearized equations) that I've ever seen invokes mass-energy in motion - whether it's mass-energy in rotation or in linear motion, a proximal body gets dragged along with it. But there's always mass-energy in motion. The Alcubierre metric on the other hand is a static field configuration. That seems to bar any frame-dragging effects. Or are you saying that the field itself has an intrinsic momentum that drags the reference frame toward the destination? It's hard to see how that could be possible without mass-energy in motion relative to the ship frame....but then again a lot about GR seems counterintuitive until the fine points are explained clearly.


My limited experience with the Alien Scientist has been very disappointing. I think he has a B.S. in physics, but I've never seen him do anything more complicated than a Fourier transform in his videos - I'd be stunned if he could solve (or even clearly explain) tensor calculus equations. I caught some mistakes in his analysis of the Moscovium debate, and when confronted with them, he just got angry and churlish like a conceited little boy. His ego is the size of Mt. Rushmore. So in addition to being a generally unpleasant person, I haven't seen him offer anything of real scientific value in any of his myriad videos - but he is quick to embrace every cranky "fringe physics" idea that comes along. In my experience he's little more than a B.S. in Physics who thinks that his undergrad degree makes him a god we should all blindly kneel before like General Zod.
source for what? i referred to him to tra no slate exactly because he has the bachelor. the idea is to get some closer to your level of physics to explain so that you might get something out of it.
 

waitedavid137

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Interesting. Does that mean that one doesn't need astronomical amounts of energy to "move the road", so to say?
There are two frames for which the energy density term is important. the ship frame, and the local value for an observer which is outside at first at rest with respect to it when at zero warp who gets interested by it. it turns out that modifying the warp according to the ship frame to have different boundary conditions on the lapse function can arbitrarily reduce the ship frame value. maintaining it in transformation to the intersected observer local frame whose observed local value sets a quantum restriction on the time for which it is there at his location does not make it something insurmountable.
 
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Dejan Corovic

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There are two frames for which the energy density term is important. the ship frame, and the local value for an observer which is outside at first at rest with respect to it when at zero warp who gets interested by it. it turns out that modifying the warp according to the ship frame to have different boundary conditions on the lapse function can arbitrarily reduce the ship frame value. maintaining it in transformation to the intersected observer local frame whose observed local value sets a quantum restriction on the time for which it is there at his location does not make it something insurmountable.

Can you surmise any visual effect that observer would see when looking at that craft?

Would it be possible to make a craft to be bigger on the inside than outside, as UFO lore would have it?

The picture that you described, is it when craft and observer are not moving relative to each other or when the craft is moving relative to observer?

Would craft beam microwaves?

Would there be any time dilation effect on observer who is standing, say, 90 ft away from the craft?
 
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waitedavid137

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Can you surmise any visual effect that observer would see when looking at that craft?

Would it be possible to make a craft to be bigger on the inside than outside, as UFO lore would have it?

The picture that you described, is it when craft and observer are not moving relative to each other or when the craft is moving relative to observer?

Would craft beam microwaves?

Would there be any time dilation effect on observer who is standing, say, 90 ft away from the craft?
I will make a separate thread on warp drive to keep this one Lazar focused.
 

waitedavid137

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Interesting. Does that mean that one doesn't need astronomical amounts of energy to "move the road", so to say?
One doesn't according to the ship frame which is the one responcible for producing it. Energy is not an invariant. It depends on frame. what could be 1 J to one observer can be 1 million to another. what matters is how much it is with respect to the ship.
 

Dejan Corovic

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There are underground bases and yes the entrances he said where camflaged but Lazar is still a hoax. Anyway the really interesting stuff got moved from A51 a long time ago.

I think the whole show was moved to Utah. Forgot the name of the place. There is a facility over there that is used for testing radar cross-section of stealth planes. They put them on a pole etc. But pole is on the end of a runway and behind the pole, there is sliding door in the floor. Some UFO enthusiasts watched that door slide and ufos came out of it. There is a video about it on YouTube.
 

waitedavid137

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There are underground bases and yes the entrances he said where camflaged but Lazar is still a hoax. Anyway the really interesting stuff got moved from A51 a long time ago.
plus i think Jeremy's point wasn't that he didn't find them, but was that he wasn't shot looking for them.
 

Dejan Corovic

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One doesn't according to the ship frame which is the one responcible for producing it. Energy is not an invariant. It depends on frame. what could be 1 J to one observer can be 1 million to another. what matters is how much it is with respect to the ship.

Wow! That's huge.

Makes sense, that's sort of conservation of energy GR style. If you make space-time "heavier" in one region, you will need more jules to move a mass. And vice versa.
 

waitedavid137

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plus i think Jeremy's point wasn't that he didn't find them, but was that he wasn't shot looking for them.
Let me recount how my father was promoted to 2nd in space systems command which at the time was norrad and is now called space force. they were doing a drill without knowing it was a drill at falcon afb and were told Russia had launched and protesters were at the gates. he was told the protesters climbed the gates so he ordered them shot for treason. That got him the promotion.
 

Double Nought Spy

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Let me recount how my father was promoted to 2nd in space systems command which at the time was norrad and is now called space force. they were doing a drill without knowing it was a drill at falcon afb and were told Russia had launched and protesters were at the gates. he was told the protesters climbed the gates so he ordered them shot for treason. That got him the promotion.
That ain't nothin'. My uncle used to fly the twice-a-week run to Mars and back. He told me all about it one time when he was drunk and off his meds.
 
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