North Korea

pepe

Celestial
He represents the truth in a world of confusion and liberal goop. Men are sexist, people are racist and for the life of me, the day we accept what we are and stop the pretence, should be a global holiday.
 

August

Metanoia
World needs to 'prepare for the worst' with North Korea, retired general warns
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FFH

Honorable
Umm it's probably fake news or someone's trolling, but typing "north korea" in Twitter's search bar and then going to 'Latest' brings up tweets telling that Hawaii citizens just received a message on their phones about an imminent missile attack.

Edit: people are saying this could be a hack by Russia or NK.

Edit 2: many people are tweeting the phone message, seen below:

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Edit 3: it was false, don't know who sent this message to everyone yet.
 
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3FEL9

Islander
^^ A *VERY* Good example of why not to trust anything comming out of social media..

If a country use twitter in their EMCOM services. Thats a huge FAIL to start with.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Really want everyone to make peace with NK, but that feels far away...

North Korea has to want it too, that is key...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Really curious who messed up like this...people got scared obviously.

It's not a mess up, people do that kind of crap in social media all the time...
 

Toroid

Founding Member
I'm watching the governor of Hawaii and the head of emergency center on Fox News explaining what happened. It was caused by two mouse clicks. The person supposedly pushed the wrong option. What seems strange is the fact they didn't know why the sirens went off.
 

3FEL9

Islander
I'm watching the governor of Hawaii and the head of emergency center on Fox News explaining what happened. It was caused by two mouse clicks. The person supposedly pushed the wrong option. What seems strange is the fact they didn't know why the sirens went off.

It was sent out as SMS or text, not via twitter as I first thought.. Boy, the operator who f-up must have sh**t his pants when realising :eek:

And to be politically correct,, " or her "
 

nivek

As Above So Below
DARPA Project Reveals US May Be Planning North Korea Invasion

The political situation in North Korea is growing more complex, as the United States government is set to begin training for fighting within the country's many secret underground tunnels.

While far from confirmed by official sources, it's possible that an ongoing contest from the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) may secretly be intended to equip troops with Batman-type gear to fight in unfamiliar cave-like environments.

Defectors from North Korea have been warning for decades that the dictatorship is riddled with holes and tunnels that have been dug in order to aid a literal underground invasion of South Korea. Named "The Tunnels of Aggression" (way cooler than the names of the tunnels in The Great Escape), this endless maze of underground passageways is almost a complete mystery to those outside of the North Korean military.

Claims suggest that one tunnel to the south is large enough to transport thirty thousand North Korean troops per hour, although it's hard to be certain just how reliable these claims might be.

One thing is certain: if the United States were to ever go to war with North Korea, it wouldn't be an easy process for US troops. North Korean forces will likely have received tunnel warfare training, as well as possessing detailed maps of the area, and where it's possible to hide or lay traps for unwitting US soldiers.

Thus, in an effort to be prepared (and we can all merely hope and pray that this preparation is never actually proved useful), the US government has sanctioned specific training to help get troops up to speed on the challenges of fighting in low-light underground environments.

All of this makes sense, but what else might the government be working on behind closed doors? Tunnel training may be useful, but US troops would still be at a disadvantage due to a lack of knowledge about tunnel geography in North Korea.




This could potentially tie in with DARPA's contest, which ostensibly is intended to help develop technology to help life underground go more smoothly.

According to DARPA's program manager, Timothy Chung:
One of the main limitations facing warfighters and emergency responders in subterranean environments is a lack of situational awareness; we often don't know what lies beneath us. The DARPA Subterranean Challenge aims to provide previously unimaginable situational awareness capabilities for operations underground.

So, on the one hand, the US military is beginning to train in tunnel environments for the express purpose of being able to fight North Korean troops on their home turf. Meanwhile, the government is also looking to independent contractors to create a system that would allow the military to scan the ground and learn the layout of tunnels and caves that might exist deep below.

The evidence all seems to line up: it's entirely possible that the government is looking to find ways to beat North Korea at its own game by uncovering their entire series of tunnels in advance of an invasion.

Of course, there's no definitive proof here. This is purely circumstantial, and even if these two ongoing projects are related, one would hope that this is merely intended to help prepare for an avoidable scenario, rather than the first hints of an intended attack. No matter how fast US troops might be able to learn the tunnel layout beneath North Korea, they'd struggle to take out all opponents before a retaliatory attack is put into action.

Let's hope that cooler heads prevail as the conflict between the United States and North Korea continues to produce awkward tweets and showboating from political leaders. If all does go south, though, this research contest could well be the way that the US military intends to prepare for what would under even the best of circumstances prove to be an incredibly difficult away mission.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
The Pyongyang subway is over 360 feet deep and doubles as a bomb shelter.
Pyongyang Metro - Wikipedia
Pyongyang Metro is among the deepest metros in the world, with the track at over 110 metres (360 ft) deep underground; the metro does not have any above-ground track segments or stations. Due to the depth of the metro and the lack of outside segments, its stations can double as bomb shelters, with blast doors in place at hallways.
 

FFH

Honorable
I think this Hawaii situation is a bit suspicious...an employee makes a mistake in the very state standing as the first line of defense against NK? Isn't that a little weird? What if this was all real but they shot the missile down?
 

August

Metanoia
Well now they know what it feels like to be under a Nuke attack. Trouble is though they may tend to disregard a real one after this.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Employee who caused the false alarm will be retrained.
Hawaii sends out 'false alarm' missile threat | Daily Mail Online
A Civil Defense employee is set to be retrained after a shocking blunder on Saturday morning, when a mistaken alert warning of an inbound ballistic missile sent thousands fleeing for shelter.

The false alarm was caused by a Hawaii Emergency Management Agency employee who 'pushed the wrong buttons' during an internal drill timed to coincide with a shift handover at 8.07am. The all-clear phone alert was not sent until 38 minutes later.

Incredibly, officials said the employee who made the mistake wasn't aware of it until mobile phones in the command center began displaying the alert.

'This guy feels bad, right. He's not doing this on purpose - it was a mistake on his part and he feels terrible about it,' said EMA Administrator Vern Miyagi in a press conference Saturday afternoon.

Miyagi, a retired Army major general, said the employee had been with the agency for 'a while' and that he would be 'counseled and drilled so this never happens again' - but stopped short of saying whether there would be disciplinary measures.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5266357/Hawaii-receives-ballistic-missile-threat-warning.html#ixzz54BLpxn5a
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