Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
yep i am not a fan of these, too dubious for me
That's why they fit together.
yep i am not a fan of these, too dubious for me
he confused the plane discussion with the ship one
the discussion of the fred valentich caseWhy a discussion of planes?...
yes i knowThe topic of the thread is ships.
the discussion of the fred valentich case
yes lets get back on topicMake a thread, this discussion is of a ship...
yes lets get back on topic
The Proteus was built in 1911. In March 1941 she was sold to Canadians and used to haul bauxite. She left port in November 1941.Lo~ Ok, I'm rating this one as a two star mystery at most. I mean given the history of the ships they must have had a design flaw somewhere. Either they failed structurally, or their structures somehow enabled the coal bunkers to heat up enough so that there was self combustion, and leading to an explosion or out of control fires, or it was something along those lines.
The USS Main probably feel victim to just such an event.
Coal bunker Fire
Of all four ships only the Jupiter/Langley was accounted for by loss through enemy action. All others vanished unaccounted for while at sea. I mean clearly there was some issue. Maybe the Langley, being a naval ship, and after so many modifications and changes, that these had so changed the original design, as she was no longer a coal fired ship but oil powered, and so she survived until sunk in wartime action.
This strongly suggests that the other ships were probably lost to coal fires as only the Langley had been converted to oil fired turbines.
The Cyclops comes up a lot in paranormal discussions. The number of missing and/or sunken ships off the coast of the US South Atlantic over the years is staggering. Coupled with the fact that WW I had not yet ended, there are a lot of logical possibilities.
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Over 5,000 ships have disappeared off the coast of the Carolinas alone.
Most likly found its way to the other side by accident..just like all the others.More than 100 years later, the 'great mystery' of the vanished USS Cyclops remains unsolved
One hundred years ago Wednesday morning, the USS Cyclops, a massive American World War I transport ship hailed as a “floating coal mine,” should have been docked in the waters off Baltimore, fresh off a journey from Brazil.
But the vessel – reported to be the Navy’s biggest and fastest fuel ship at the time – and the 309 men onboard it never pulled into the Chesapeake Bay on March 13, 1918, and its whereabouts to this day remain unknown.
“In terms of loss of life and size of ship, it’s probably the last great mystery left unresolved,” James Delgado, an underwater explorer, told the Baltimore Sun this week as recent discoveries of historical shipwrecks are renewing hopes amongst the scientific community of finally finding the Cyclops.
The 540-foot long and 65-foot wide ship, outfitted with 50-caliber machine guns to help transport doctors and supplies to American Expeditionary Forces in France during The Great War, was last seen in Barbados on March 4, 1918.
Built in Philadelphia eight years earlier, the USS Cyclops was capable of transporting 12,500 tons of coal and could lift two tons of it in single buckets along cables that ran along the ship, leading newspapers to call it a “floating coal mine,” according to the Baltimore Sun.
But on its final journey, the Cyclops was loaded up with 10,000 tons of manganese ore – a denser and heavier cargo – and stopped at the Caribbean island for nine days to resupply before vanishing into the horizon.
Those back in the U.S. began to take notice as day after day passed without any signs of the ship making its way to Maryland. "COLLIER OVERDUE A MONTH," blared a headline in the New York Times on April 15, 1918, next to a list of the hundreds of passengers on board.
"Numerous ships sailed to locate the collier as she was thought to have been sunk by a German submarine," the Naval History and Heritage Command says on its website. "Her wreck has never been found, and the cause of her loss remains unknown."
Two months after the ship failed to reach Baltimore, Franklin D. Roosevelt, who then was an Assistant Navy Secretary, announced the Cyclops and all of its crew were presumed lost at sea, resulting in what remains the largest loss of life in Navy history unrelated to combat.
Nothing from the ship has been found. No wreckage, oil slicks or debris. Not even a distress call. And speculation has raged throughout history, leading some to claim wild theories involving the Bermuda Triangle, giant sea creatures and mutinies.
"One magazine, Literary Digest, speculated that a giant octopus rose from the sea, entwined the ship with its tentacles and dragged it to the bottom," the U.S. Naval History and Heritage Command said. "Another theory was that the ship suddenly turned turtle in a freak storm, trapping all hands inside."
Navy Secretary Josephus Daniels at the time added that "there has been no more baffling mystery in the annals of the Navy than the disappearance last March of the U.S.S. Cyclops.”
“There has not been a trace of the vessel, and long-continued and vigilant search of the entire region proved utterly futile," the Baltimore Sun quoted him as saying.
i am blaffed on how many people never heard of this case
i guess i know too much ufology for my own good
Why does this design flaw keep coming up?How is a design flaw confusing?
yesYou mean Frederick Valentich's disappearance ?
sorry, i was gonna say thatLet's not get off topic again...
I think we've had this discussion before. Maybe on the old site? Either that or I'm having a Mandela Effect moment.