Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
Maybe that race in the picture was the inspiration for the aliens in the movie Battleship.
Actually I was thinking it looks like a prototype of the aliens in the movie "Independence Day".
I am sure we have all seen this but, read the credentials of Gordon Cooper, I would think that even you Dr Wu would consider him a credible source with enough knowledge of all things that are in the air to have better judgement that either of us. If you cant be bothered watching the full 5 mins, skip to about One minute fifty seconds.
LEROY GORDON COOPER, JR. (COLONEL, USAF, RET.)
NASA ASTRONAUT (DECEASED)
PERSONAL DATA: Born March 6, 1927 in Shawnee, Oklahoma. His interests included treasure hunting, archeology, racing, flying, skiing, boating, hunting and fishing. Gordon Cooper passed away on October 4, 2004, at his home in Ventura, California, at the age of 77.
EDUCATION: Attended primary and secondary schools in Shawnee, Oklahoma and Murray, Kentucky; received a Bachelor of Science degree in Aeronautical Engineering from the Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT) in 1956; recipient of an Honorary Doctorate of Science degree from Oklahoma City University in 1967.
ORGANIZATIONS: The Society of Experimental Test Pilots, The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, The American Astronautical Society, The Blue Lodge Masons, The York Rite Masons, The Scottish Rite Masons, The Royal Order of Jesters, The Sojourners, The Rotary Club, The Daedalians, The Confederate Air Force, The Boy Scouts of America, The Girl Scouts of America.
SPECIAL HONORS: The Air Force Legion of Merit, The Air Force Distinguished Flying Cross, The Air Force Distinguished Flying Cross Cluster, The NASA Exceptional Service Medal, The NASA Distinguished Service Medal, USAF Command Astronaut Wings, The Collier Trophy, The Harmon Trophy, The Scottish Rite 33, The York Rite Knight of the Purple Cross, The DeMolay Legion of Honor, The John F. Kennedy Trophy, The Ivan E. Kincheloe Trophy, The Air Force Association Trophy, The Primus Trophy, The John Montgomery Trophy, The General Thomas E. White Trophy, The Association of Aviation Writers Award, The University of Hawaii Regents Medal, The Columbus Medal, The Silver Antelope, The Sport Fishing Society of Spain Award.
EXPERIENCE: Cooper, an Air Force Colonel, received an Army commission after completing three years of schooling at the University of Hawaii. He transferred his commission to the Air Force and was placed on active duty by that service in 1949 and given flight training.
His next assignment was with the 86th Fighter Bomber Group in Munich, Germany, where he flew F-84s and F-86s for four years. While in Munich, he also attended the European Extension of the University of Maryland night school.
He returned to the United States and, after two years of study at AFIT, received his degree. He then reported to the Air Force Experimental Flight Test School at Edwards Air Force Base, California, and, upon graduating in 1957, was assigned as an aeronautical engineer and test pilot in the Performance Engineering Branch of the Flight Test Division at Edwards. His responsibilities there included the flight testing of experimental fighter aircraft.
He logged more than 7,000 hours flying time--4,000 hours in jet aircraft. He had flown all types of Commercial and General aviation airplane and helicopters.
NASA EXPERIENCE: Colonel Cooper was selected as a Mercury astronaut in April 1959.
On May 15-16, 1963, he piloted the "Faith 7" spacecraft on a 22-orbit mission which concluded the operational phase of Project Mercury. During the 34 hours and 20 minutes of flight, Faith 7 attained an apogee of 166 statute miles and a speed of 17,546 miles per hour and traveled 546,167 statute miles.
Cooper served as command pilot of the 8-day 120-revolution Gemini 5 mission which began on August 21, 1965. It was on this flight that he and pilot Charles Conrad established a new space endurance record by traveling a distance of 3,312,993 miles in an elapsed time of 190 hours and 56 minutes. Cooper also became the first man to make a second orbital flight and thus won for the United States the lead in man-hours in space by accumulating a total of 225 hours and 15 minutes.
He served as backup command pilot for Gemini 12 and as backup commander for Apollo X.
Colonel Cooper logged 222 hours in space.
He retired from the Air Force and NASA in 1970.
BUSINESS EXPERIENCE:
LEROY GORDON COOPER, JR. (COLONEL, USAF, RET.)
NASA ASTRONAUT (DECEASED)
PERSONAL DATA: Born March 6, 1927 in Shawnee, Oklahoma. His interests included treasure hunting, archeology, racing, flying, skiing, boating, hunting and fishing. Gordon Cooper passed away on October 4, 2004, at his home in Ventura, California, at the age of 77.
EDUCATION: Attended primary and secondary schools in Shawnee, Oklahoma and Murray, Kentucky; received a Bachelor of Science degree in Aeronautical Engineering from the Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT) in 1956; recipient of an Honorary Doctorate of Science degree from Oklahoma City University in 1967.
ORGANIZATIONS: The Society of Experimental Test Pilots, The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, The American Astronautical Society, The Blue Lodge Masons, The York Rite Masons, The Scottish Rite Masons, The Royal Order of Jesters, The Sojourners, The Rotary Club, The Daedalians, The Confederate Air Force, The Boy Scouts of America, The Girl Scouts of America.
SPECIAL HONORS: The Air Force Legion of Merit, The Air Force Distinguished Flying Cross, The Air Force Distinguished Flying Cross Cluster, The NASA Exceptional Service Medal, The NASA Distinguished Service Medal, USAF Command Astronaut Wings, The Collier Trophy, The Harmon Trophy, The Scottish Rite 33, The York Rite Knight of the Purple Cross, The DeMolay Legion of Honor, The John F. Kennedy Trophy, The Ivan E. Kincheloe Trophy, The Air Force Association Trophy, The Primus Trophy, The John Montgomery Trophy, The General Thomas E. White Trophy, The Association of Aviation Writers Award, The University of Hawaii Regents Medal, The Columbus Medal, The Silver Antelope, The Sport Fishing Society of Spain Award.
EXPERIENCE: Cooper, an Air Force Colonel, received an Army commission after completing three years of schooling at the University of Hawaii. He transferred his commission to the Air Force and was placed on active duty by that service in 1949 and given flight training.
His next assignment was with the 86th Fighter Bomber Group in Munich, Germany, where he flew F-84s and F-86s for four years. While in Munich, he also attended the European Extension of the University of Maryland night school.
He returned to the United States and, after two years of study at AFIT, received his degree. He then reported to the Air Force Experimental Flight Test School at Edwards Air Force Base, California, and, upon graduating in 1957, was assigned as an aeronautical engineer and test pilot in the Performance Engineering Branch of the Flight Test Division at Edwards. His responsibilities there included the flight testing of experimental fighter aircraft.
He logged more than 7,000 hours flying time--4,000 hours in jet aircraft. He had flown all types of Commercial and General aviation airplane and helicopters.
NASA EXPERIENCE: Colonel Cooper was selected as a Mercury astronaut in April 1959.
On May 15-16, 1963, he piloted the "Faith 7" spacecraft on a 22-orbit mission which concluded the operational phase of Project Mercury. During the 34 hours and 20 minutes of flight, Faith 7 attained an apogee of 166 statute miles and a speed of 17,546 miles per hour and traveled 546,167 statute miles.
Cooper served as command pilot of the 8-day 120-revolution Gemini 5 mission which began on August 21, 1965. It was on this flight that he and pilot Charles Conrad established a new space endurance record by traveling a distance of 3,312,993 miles in an elapsed time of 190 hours and 56 minutes. Cooper also became the first man to make a second orbital flight and thus won for the United States the lead in man-hours in space by accumulating a total of 225 hours and 15 minutes.
He served as backup command pilot for Gemini 12 and as backup commander for Apollo X.
Colonel Cooper logged 222 hours in space.
He retired from the Air Force and NASA in 1970.
BUSINESS EXPERIENCE:
- From 1962 to 1967, he was President of Performance Unlimited, Inc., a manufacturer and distributor of race and Marine engines, and fiberglass boats.
- From 1963 to 1967, he was President of GCR, Inc. They designed, tested and raced championship cars at Indianapolis and other USAC tracks, conducted tire tests for Firestone Tire and Rubber Company and pioneered turbine engine installation on cars.
- From 1965 to 1970, he was President of Teletest, Inc. They designed, installed and tested various systems using advanced Telemetry.
- From 1966 to 1969, he participated with Doubloon, Inc., on design, construction, and utilization of Treasure Hunting equipment.
- From 1968 to 1969, he participated with Cosmos, Inc., on Archeology exploration projects.
- From 1968 to 1970, he was part owner and race project manager of the Profile Race Team. He also designed, raced and constructed high performance boats.
- From 1968 to 1970, he was a Technical Consultant for corporate acquisitions and public relations for the Republic Corp.
- From 1967 to 1969, he was Technical Consultant for design and construction of various automotive production items for General Motors, Ford and Chrysler Motor Companies.
- From 1970 to 1972 he was Member of the Board of Directors and Technical Consultant for developing technical products and public relations in land development projects for Canaveral International, Inc.
- From 1970 to 1975, he was President of the consulting firm Gordon Cooper & Associates, Inc. They specialized in technical projects ranging from airline and aerospace fields to land and hotel development.
- From 1970 to 1974, he was on the Board of Directors for APECO which produced and marketed modular homes, computer systems, office systems, copy machines and boats and marine equipment.
- From July 1972 to June 1973, he was a Member of Board of Directors and Technical Consultant for Campco, a corporation which built campers and mobile homes.
- From August 1972 to December 1973, He was on the Board of Directors and a Technical Consultant for design and production of various advanced electronic systems for LowCom Systems, Inc.
- From 1972 to 1973, he was on the Board of Directors and a Technical Consultant for design and construction of lifting, inflatable, steerable foils which could land cargo and/or personnel at a precise spot for Aerofoil Systems, Inc.
- From July 1973 to January 1974, he was Vice President and member of the Board of Directors for Craftech Corporation. They specialized in the design and construction of economical homes, garages, storage buildings, and hangers of Craftboard and fiberglass.
- From January 1973 to 1975, he was Chairman of the Board for Constant Energy Systems, Inc.
- From January 1973 to 1975, he was Vice President for Research and Development/EPCOT for Walter E. Disney Enterprises, Inc., the research and development subsidiary of Walt Disney Productions.
August
Metanoia
Nice post Dundee. Lots of credentials there for Gordon Cooper. I have often used Gordon Cooper as a sort of test case for the UFO pundits. He sure seems legitimate in what he says and how he says it. A very no nonsense man not to be mucked about with either. I have a Nasa dvd here with old film footage of him when the other astronauts really relied upon him more than any other person to get the goss to the astronauts above , their lives were in his hands.
Well that was yet another very credible witness. What constitutes proof here?
Does a University based Scientist with a degree in Physics have the final say here?
Or do you listen to what an experienced pilot says.
He fly's planes, he knows his job. He says that it moved in ways that we can't move.
He is an expert in his field. It was seen by multiple people, tracked on Radar for days.
Do you really have to catch it in a net, do call it proof?
Does a University based Scientist with a degree in Physics have the final say here?
Or do you listen to what an experienced pilot says.
He fly's planes, he knows his job. He says that it moved in ways that we can't move.
He is an expert in his field. It was seen by multiple people, tracked on Radar for days.
Do you really have to catch it in a net, do call it proof?
CasualBystander
Celestial
Well, the problem with the Alien reports is that you can look at NASA exploration plans and extrapolate.
NASA is going to send AI spacecraft with quasi-independent drones to do exploring that are auxiliaries of the ship.
If the Aliens are sending out probes they will be cranked out in automated factories and viewed as expendable. Think "beer can".
The "Aliens" that are used on the ground will be clones or mechanical bipeds/biomechanical bipeds. They will be downloaded/programmed before use and operate under the guidance of the ship.
Capturing a drone IE "Alien" will be about as informative as capturing one of your fingers.
NASA is going to send AI spacecraft with quasi-independent drones to do exploring that are auxiliaries of the ship.
If the Aliens are sending out probes they will be cranked out in automated factories and viewed as expendable. Think "beer can".
The "Aliens" that are used on the ground will be clones or mechanical bipeds/biomechanical bipeds. They will be downloaded/programmed before use and operate under the guidance of the ship.
Capturing a drone IE "Alien" will be about as informative as capturing one of your fingers.
michael59
Celestial
Just curious, CasualBystander... Do you believe all UFO can be explained away as man made?
CasualBystander
Celestial
The photo of the "Beatnik Alien" I find uncompelling.
The source is also uncompelling, from UFO blacklist:
UFO Today – Features nearly 100% stolen content, including documentaries, hoaxes and misrepresented footage. All the videos appear to have been downloaded from YouTube and manipulated, then re-encoded, producing an extremely muddy image. While the subscriber and view numbers are still small, this channel is being aggressively marketed on Facebook and Reddit. UFO Today got a boost after one of its stolen hoaxes went viral in February 2017.
The video is produced so badly it is debatable if it is worth viewing. The "Aliens" at the start of the video look like various commercially available dummies.
A hoax site produces a video that has such lousy production values that it is almost unviewable...
And you ask my opinion?
If there was a frozen alien someone would have whacked off a chunk and tested it.
UFOlogy isn't a religion, we don't have to take it on faith, all some of us are asking for is real evidence.
I believe something weird is going on occasionally, but the lack of evidence is somewhat frustrating.
If I spotted a UFO there would be stuff to examine and autopsy.
To be honest the end of the video looks like somebody has strange taste in Christmas decoration. Since they actually show faces - the current facial recognition software could determine who was on the video.
The source is also uncompelling, from UFO blacklist:
UFO Today – Features nearly 100% stolen content, including documentaries, hoaxes and misrepresented footage. All the videos appear to have been downloaded from YouTube and manipulated, then re-encoded, producing an extremely muddy image. While the subscriber and view numbers are still small, this channel is being aggressively marketed on Facebook and Reddit. UFO Today got a boost after one of its stolen hoaxes went viral in February 2017.
The video is produced so badly it is debatable if it is worth viewing. The "Aliens" at the start of the video look like various commercially available dummies.
A hoax site produces a video that has such lousy production values that it is almost unviewable...
And you ask my opinion?
If there was a frozen alien someone would have whacked off a chunk and tested it.
UFOlogy isn't a religion, we don't have to take it on faith, all some of us are asking for is real evidence.
I believe something weird is going on occasionally, but the lack of evidence is somewhat frustrating.
If I spotted a UFO there would be stuff to examine and autopsy.
To be honest the end of the video looks like somebody has strange taste in Christmas decoration. Since they actually show faces - the current facial recognition software could determine who was on the video.
CasualBystander
Celestial
The video is unquestionably dubious.
1. It is blurry and low quality (points to fake).
2. It is from a dubious source.
3. The alien looks pretty much intact but his limbs look like they are under inflated in spots. A human limb even broken wouldn't look like that.
4. The alien is hanging from the clothesline in back of someone's house.
I'm open to further proof, but a video that is just a combination of still's isn't very convincing and the source stills would be more interesting and somewhat easier to examine. Given that he is taking video of stills the quality should be a lot better.
The uniforms have organisation patches and look like EMS uniforms. Perhaps the shoulder patches could be identified.
1. It is blurry and low quality (points to fake).
2. It is from a dubious source.
3. The alien looks pretty much intact but his limbs look like they are under inflated in spots. A human limb even broken wouldn't look like that.
4. The alien is hanging from the clothesline in back of someone's house.
I'm open to further proof, but a video that is just a combination of still's isn't very convincing and the source stills would be more interesting and somewhat easier to examine. Given that he is taking video of stills the quality should be a lot better.
The uniforms have organisation patches and look like EMS uniforms. Perhaps the shoulder patches could be identified.
CasualBystander
Celestial
Alleged Dark Web Video Claims to Show Frozen Alien Examination
The video has been circulating since at least 2009.
The original youtube poster has been terminated.
The original title was something like "Snowmobilers find Alien in Canada" the video was from somewhere in the L'Annonciation region.
It resurfaced in 2016.
The video has been circulating since at least 2009.
The original youtube poster has been terminated.
The original title was something like "Snowmobilers find Alien in Canada" the video was from somewhere in the L'Annonciation region.
It resurfaced in 2016.
CasualBystander
Celestial
Well...
If it is from 1992 (25 years ago), and we know for certain it made an appearance 2009 or earlier, is it a prominent case in the MUFON list, and a case that is well known???
Answer seems to be no (I welcome opposing evidence).
That would support the "someone posed a homemade dummy in the backyard and took pictures" explanation.
Michael59 or one of the other people who speak fluent Canadian could search around and find out when the story first appeared, because a Quebec story wouldn't initially appear in English.
CerealK
Adept
I was wondering that too, as another poster says, the video has been around.
Gambeir
Celestial
What's the dark web? Give me break, there is no dark web, it's only a matter of knowing what is where and believe me they know since the military created the web in the first place.
The Dark Web....oh no....
I hadn't seen that video before, but it would explain the insanity in the Antarctic. I've lost the link and can't recall the name, but long, long, ago an team in the Antarctic had to hoof it back to camp for some reason and ended up discovering some metal jugs, which were quite large, and these had documents in them. They had to climb down a crevasse to get them. Maybe someone knows the story, but at the time I ran into it I did a search and it was validated in a couple places. Since then I've gone looking for stories of discoveries in the Antarctic and can't find anything on this now.
This all took place like in the early 60's if I remember right. Something like 1964 or thereabouts and there was some news coverage in papers about all this. Afterwards the area was repeatedly searched. So it sounds to me like they had some clues long time ago and have been searching for these aliens for a long time and perhaps found them more recently in the early 1990's.
The Dark Web....oh no....
I hadn't seen that video before, but it would explain the insanity in the Antarctic. I've lost the link and can't recall the name, but long, long, ago an team in the Antarctic had to hoof it back to camp for some reason and ended up discovering some metal jugs, which were quite large, and these had documents in them. They had to climb down a crevasse to get them. Maybe someone knows the story, but at the time I ran into it I did a search and it was validated in a couple places. Since then I've gone looking for stories of discoveries in the Antarctic and can't find anything on this now.
This all took place like in the early 60's if I remember right. Something like 1964 or thereabouts and there was some news coverage in papers about all this. Afterwards the area was repeatedly searched. So it sounds to me like they had some clues long time ago and have been searching for these aliens for a long time and perhaps found them more recently in the early 1990's.
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
this was in ontario, canada
Gambeir
Celestial
The video? Well that's what they are telling you huh? So it is real then and now the reaction is to divert away from where it obviously took place.
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
no, "them" dint tell me, i found the history, the images were emailed to a researcher from Canada by a snowmobile group how said they found the body buried in snow