Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

Discussion in 'End Times & Conspiracies' started by nivek, Jan 16, 2020.

  1. Standingstones

    Standingstones Celestial

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    I approach it this way. There is no one I need to see so badly that I need to die over it. Just tough it out for the meantime. If society can’t get a handle on COVID in the next couple of years, well then....

    I do not wish to go the way of those thousands of Sturgis bikers. I wonder how long it will take before we find out how many of those bikers got their death wish fulfilled.
     
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  2. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Well this appears to be quite a revelation if its a true...

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    COVID-19 emails from Nashville mayor's office show disturbing revelation

    The coronavirus cases on lower Broadway may have been so low that the mayor’s office and the Metro Health Department decided to keep it secret.

    Emails between the mayor’s senior advisor and the health department reveal only a partial picture. But what they reveal is disturbing.

    The discussion involves the low number of coronavirus cases emerging from bars and restaurants and how to handle that.

    And most disturbingly, how to keep it from the public.

    On June 30th, contact tracing was given a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes were found to be causing problems with more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases.

    Leslie Waller from the health department asks, “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?"

    “Correct, not for public consumption,” writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles.

    A month later, the health department was asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants.

    Reporter Nate Rau asks, “The figure you gave of 'more than 80' does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?"

    Health department official Brian Todd asked five health department officials, "Please advise how you recommend I respond. "

    The name at the top of the response is clipped off but you may find the answer unacceptable.

    “My two cents. We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site.

    We could still release the total though, and then a response to the over 80 could be because that number is increasing all the time and we don’t want to say a specific number."

    Neither the health department nor the mayor’s office would confirm the authenticity of the emails but councilmember Steve Glover had a Metro staff attorney inquire. Here’s the official answer:

    “I was able to get verification from the Mayor’s Office and the Department of Health that these emails are real,” the staff attorney answered.

    Glover says this is Metro Nashville orchestrating a cover up.

    "They are fabricating information," Glover said. "They’ve blown there entire credibility Dennis. Its gone, I don’t trust a thing they say going forward ...nothing."

    Glover says he has been contacted by an endless stream of downtown bartenders, waitresses and restaurant owners asking why would officials not release these numbers?

    "We raised taxes 34 percent and put hundreds literally thousands of people out of work that are now worried about losing their homes, their apartments...and we did it on bogus data. That should be illegal," Glover said.

    Again, FOX 17 News wasn't told by the mayor’s office this wasn’t true. We were told to file a freedom of information act request.

    Which allows us now to ask the question, why are you keeping this from us? Why would you even want to? Its just the real numbers and what could possibly be an honorable motive?

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  3. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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  4. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Get ready for the 10% COVID fee coming to your city/town/region soon...

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    New York is set to become the latest city to let restaurants add a COVID-19 fee to your bill

    New York's city council approved a measure on Wednesday that allows restaurants to tack on a "COVID-19 Recovery Charge" of up to 10% on diners' bills. The COVID-19 pandemic has roiled the restaurant industry, with over 9,000 closing in New York since March, according to Yelp, and the surcharge aims to help dining establishments stay afloat.

    The next step is for Mayor Bill de Blasio to sign it into law, which he's indicated he plans to do.

    For the last few decades, New York has had a ban on restaurant surcharges, according to The Wall Street Journal. This new measure would break that precedent, allowing restaurants to charge a fee until 90 days after they are allowed to fill dining rooms again. The measure doesn't apply to large chains with more than 15 locations or take-out orders, and restaurants must clearly notify customers of the charge.

    The move follows an announcement from New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who said that restaurants will be able to resume indoor dining at 25% capacity starting September 30. But industry insiders and experts say that the move isn't enough to save the struggling restaurant industry, Business Insider previously reported, as they operate on thin margins that require full or nearly full dining rooms.

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  5. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Here comes the censorship...I will not change this thread title to pacify the snowflake PC crowd...

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    House passes resolution condemning anti-Asian discrimination relating to coronavirus

    The House passed a resolution Thursday condemning "all forms of anti-Asian sentiment as related to COVID-19" in a 243-164 vote.

    The measure came amid Democratic lawmakers repeatedly blasting President Trump for referring to coronavirus as the "Chinese virus," alleging the rhetoric has led to an influx of discrimination against Asian Americans.

    The measure - spearheaded by Rep. Grace Meng (D-N.Y.) - highlighted that the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have stated that connecting the name of a virus to the geographic location where it originated perpetuates a stigma.

    Proponents of the resolution said it is necessary to combat bigotry as instances of harassment and violence against the Asian community have increased since the start of the pandemic.

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  6. AD1184

    AD1184 Honorable

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    As regards censorship, what legal force does this resolution have? The article cites Republican critics pointing out that it is non-binding. I am not sure what the US Congress can do about people associating the virus with Wuhan that would not be in breach of the First Amendment. It is fine in the case of this thread, because it was started and named at a time when it was most obviously an epidemic in the Chinese city of Wuhan.

    The WHO's statements on the perpetuation of stigma brought about by connecting the name of a virus to its point of origin are claims only and are not facts. As has been pointed out in numerous places since the beginning of the pandemic, the sensitivities of the Chinese state have a large influence over what the WHO does and does not say. China also has a track record as the origin of many pandemic diseases and diseases of pandemic potential, in large part due to the agricultural and economic practices that have been promoted by its government.

    How many people know that the Marburg virus is named after a city in Germany, that the Ebola virus is named after a tributary of the Congo River, or that norovirus is named after the town of Norwalk, Ohio? If there is any stigma conferred to countries or peoples because of these viruses, then it is not due to their names. Similarly, I doubt many people stupid enough to attack an ethnically Chinese or east Asian person because of coronavirus were aware before the start of this year that Wuhan is a city in China.

    What these people probably do know is that the current pandemic disease arose in a city in China, and they may have learned that that city is named Wuhan. But in this case, this is truthful information that has been widely reported in all news media, and has nothing to do with the name given to the virus. Unfortunately, you cannot control what a stupid person does with information that they are given, and the only way to stop incidents of people being attacked for this sort of reason would be to make sure that they--and by extension we--are not given any information at all, which is a price that even those who make claims like the above may not be willing to pay.
     
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  7. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Yeah that's true, but sometimes these non-binding votes are how it gets started, using a non-binding resolution to gauge how receptive it was and move forward with bolder ideas...

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