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  1. pigfarmer

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    If spirits - human or otherwise - can inhabit inanimate objects which ones would they choose?

    For me, an old porcelain doll takes the CreepyAss Award. I have an old workbench that belonged to my uncle and I always have to leave a drawer in a certain position. Why ? Because he always made a point to do it and let us know he did. Still don't know why he did it or why I continue to, but feel like he just might be standing down there one day to explain it to me if I stop.

    So if you want to inhabit something would it be an antique, or a console filled with instruments or a portable oven?

    Eastern Air Lines Flight 401 - Wikipedia

    Ghosts of Flight 401

    Perhaps the most extraordinary and credible research into the ghost phenomenon ever documented is the so-called "Ghosts of Flight 401." On December of 1972, an Eastern Airlines Tri-Star jetliner, Flight 401, crashed into a Florida swamp. The pilot, Bob Loft (on the left), and flight engineer Don Repo (on the right), were two of the 101 people who perished in the air crash. Not long after the crash, the ghosts of Loft and Repo were seen on more than twenty occasions by crew members on other Eastern Tri-Stars, especially those planes which had been fitted with parts salvaged from the Flight 401 wreckage. The apparitions of Loft and Repo were invariably described as being extremely lifelike. They were not only reported by people who had known Loft and Repo, but their ghosts were also subsequently identified from photographs by people who had not known Loft and Repo.

    The strange tales of the ghostly airmen of Flight of 401 circulated in the airline community. An account of the paranormal happenings even appeared in a 1974 US Flight Safety Foundation's newsletter. John G. Fuller, the best-selling author of The Ghost of Flight 401, carried out an exhaustive investigation into the hauntings with the aid of several cautious airline personnel. A mass of compelling testimony was produced as a result. The website Flight 401 – The Black Box Story provides an account of the crash as told using material from the Black Box. It highlights how poor cockpit resource management caused a tiny light bulb to distract the pilots and bring down a Tristar jetliner.

    The cause of the crash was found to be a couple of minor design faults in the controls, and Lockheed rapidly corrected them. However, it was after some of the undamaged parts of the aircraft were subsequently recycled onto other planes that the mysterious incidents began to be reported.

    Although Eastern Airlines refuses to discuss the matter, researchers have interviewed numerous individuals claiming to have encountered the ill-fated pair on L-1011s. As the reports would have it, Loft and Repo have devoted their after-lives to watching over the passengers and crew of these Lockheed passenger planes.

    Many of the testimonies are extremely persuasive. Many come from people in highly responsible positions: pilots, flight officers, even a vice president of Eastern Airlines, who allegedly spoke with a captain he assumed was in charge of the flight, before recognizing him as the late Loft.

    Other sightings are convincing because they have multiple witnesses. A flight's captain and two flight attendants claim to have seen and spoken to Loft before take-off and watched him vanish - an experience that left them so shaken they cancelled the flight.

    One female passenger made a concerned enquiry to a flight attendant regarding the quiet, unresponsive man in Eastern Airlines uniform sitting in the seat next to her, who subsequently disappeared in full view of both of them and several other passengers, leaving the woman hysterical. When later shown a sheet of photos depicting Eastern flight engineers, she identified Repo as the officer she had seen.

    Another incident occurred when one of the L-1011 passenger planes that had been fitted with salvaged parts was due for take-off. The flight engineer was mid-way through carrying out the routine pre-flight inspection when Repo appeared to him and said, "You don't need to worry about the pre-flight, I've already done it."

    Repo and Loft are apparently not content merely to be present on these airplanes. Often their style is far more hands on, particularly in Repo's case. Aside from his appearance to a pre-flight engineer who he appeared to have been assisting, there is testimony from a flight attendant who observed a man in a flight engineer's uniform, whom she later recognized as Repo, fixing a galley oven. The insistence of the plane's own flight engineer that he had not fixed the oven, and that there had not been another engineer on board, would seem to lend weight to her claim. Repo was also seen in the compartment below the cockpit by a flight engineer who had accessed it in order to investigate a knocking he heard coming from there.

    On another occasion, Faye Merryweather, a flight attendant, saw Repo's face looking out at her from an oven in the galley of Tri-Star 318. Understandably alarmed, she fetched two colleagues, one of whom was the flight engineer who had been a friend of Repo's and recognized him instantly. All three heard Repo warn them to, "Watch out for fire on this airplane." The plane later encountered serious engine trouble and the last leg of its flight was cancelled. It is interesting to note that the galley of Tri-Star 328 had been salvaged from the wreckage of flight 401.

    The sightings were all reported to the Flight Safety Foundation (an independent authority) which commented: "The reports were given by experienced and trustworthy pilots and crew. We consider them significant. The appearance of the dead flight engineer (Repo) ... was confirmed by the flight engineer." Later, records of the Federal Aviation Agency recorded the fire which broke out on that same aircraft.

    One of the vice-presidents of Eastern Airlines boarded a Miami-bound TriStar at JFK airport and spoke to a uniformed captain sitting in First Class. Suddenly, he recognized the captain was Loft, at which point the apparition vanished.

    Another incident occurred when Repo appeared to a captain and told him, "There will never be another crash. We will not let it happen."

    A female passenger found herself sitting next to an Eastern Airlines flight officer who looked pale and ill, but would not speak; she called a stewardess but before the eyes of several people, the man disappeared. The woman was later shown photographs of Eastern Airlines engineers and she identified the man as Repo.

    Unfortunately, further research into the well-witnessed paranormal incidents was severely hampered by the airline company which steadfastly refused to co-operate with the ghost investigators.

    It should be noted that ghost sightings have been reported many times throughout recorded history. During the 1990's, research into "after-death communications" (ADCs) by near-death researchers, Bill and Judy Guggenheim, helped to make the phenomenon of ghost sightings more mainstream.

    "The boundaries between life and death are at best shadowy and vague. Who shall say where one ends and where the other begins?" - Edgar Allen Poe

    Ghosts of Flight 401

     
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    What little I've read about poltergeists I'd say yes, people do seem to able to somehow influence inanimate objects in their surroundings with some ability not fully understood. Seemed to revolve around young girls as I remember but exactly what that connection might be is a mystery to me.

    My mother always claimed she couldn't wear a watch and didn't. Said they always stopped running shortly after she put them on, but I never actually saw this happen. I see that it isn't unheard of, so again maybe an example of some poorly understood human influence over our environment and the gadgets in it.

    Apart from things moving on their own I think we can give something power to something, an object.
    With that doll you posted specifically, at one time that was probably a cherished possession in an era when there wasn't the readily available 24/7 consumer schlock we're used to. Add some patina and you have something with human features that already looks out of date and place. Is it haunted? If you think it is, then it is. It has whatever power you grant it. Maybe imbuing a doll like that with power is like buying a do-it-yourself Tulpa kit.
     
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    HAHA! Very funny. I actually have been practising telekinesis sometimes. And also to create things out of thin air. Never now if it is uncontrollable telekinesis and things just popping up by creating it out of thin air. But I mostly try to create new brain cells out of thin air.
    Telekinesis among young girls could be a good answer. Hormones, emotions.

    Objects have DNA on them from whoever touched it. Objects also have bacteria, parasites, and any other living creature who communicate, store information and could also give much information to our unconscious mind without our knowledge. by communicating with those creatures we carry. In this way any historical moments of this object could be told in a very strange way. This is a theory of course. Never really read about it anywhere. And it need evidence. But I am quite sure historical information is hidden in any object by something if not those above.
    If someone did something awful when the doll was around, the doll will store this information. Computers might one day accomplish to figure it out. Still some people might have the ability within.
     
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    I think it's called the 'stone tape recorder' theory, or some variant: Stone Tape - Wikipedia

    If you want to go digging about telekinesis this looks like a good place to start:
    US Government Interest in Telekinesis and Psychokinesis

    Not familiar with that website but looked like it linked a fair bit of declassified docs in it, and source material is best. The US military had an interest in many of these topics. Project Stargate was about remote viewing but I think it (or at least the people involved) also looked into other topics as well. This is where you get spoon bending and Uri Geller mixed in with all that, and that's usually about where I start looking for something else to read ....

    I have wondered about that with a few things. I collect old military surplus rifles and have a couple of 19th century specimens that are only fired occasionally and I always ask myself where have they been and what have they seen? They're original so they're loaded with whatever they've touched over the past 130+ years. If they could speak they'd probably say something like "I've been locked away in a cabinet in an armory forever and done nothing interesting"

    But one that I do take out a couple of times a year is different. It was found baking in an attic and I was asked to identify it. Wound up buying it and a couple of other associated items. Turns out the man's Dad was in WWII and stationed somewhere in France - a non-combatant, he was a carpenter. But he had been to an area that had seen quite a lot of fighting and picked up souvenirs and brought them home, which I now have. Unfortunately the attic nearly ruined the wood so the original finish and any human traces it may have collected are gone; I had to repair and refinish it.

    But honestly, when I sit there quietly and pull myself into the correct position and am looking down the barrel at the front sight with the rifle welded to my cheek I get a weird sensation down my spine. This one has been fired in anger and my face is literally pressed in the same spot as whatever German kid that lugged this '42 K98 Mauser all the way across Europe only to drop it in a muddy field under who knows what circumstances. Based on it's relative age I don't doubt it had been used - certainly looked like it. So is it my imagination? Probably. But this is what I mean when I say it only has the power I grant it. Even granting it virtually nothing it still unsettles me a bit every time.
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    Be careful with those weapons :Alien: Really love when people collect anything of historical value :)
    Difficult to say. Nothing wrong with imagination anyway. It could be imagination. I became little angry within when watching a documentary about the diamond skull. Psychic have been using it because of its magical powers. And then it is just fake. Of course we could put much ideas into an object that is just our imagination. Still I think we sense more than we are able to define.

    Telekinesis is nice. Thank you for the links. Last evening I walked to buy food. By the cold products like milk and yogurt and similar, there were many doors to the shelves. I think eight? . I walked by them and suddenly three doors opened at once in a very fast movement. First I thought it must have been some wind from the other side pushing them up. But first of all it was only three out of eight that opened and they did not open side by side. And the doors are difficult to open just by wind pressure.
    I have been speculated upon this today if it was wind, telekinesis or had anything to do about haunting, since the washing machine suddenly was on at home. I feel very stupid if it was just wind pressure. But i feel stupid most of the time anyway.

    Any idea what it could be?
     
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    Crystal skull - Wikipedia
    Ops. Was reading about diamonds and suddenly recalled I wrote Diamond skull. It is Crystal skull! Lol. :D
     
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    I had a pair of pioneer 12 inch 3 way tower speakers from the early 80`s that were haunted i think. My mom bought them new and were given to me bout 10 years ago. i didnt have them long, we the miss`s and i could tell they brought i weird vib(LOL) into the place. It wasn`t a week that we had them and we got home late around 11:30ish, we had 2 dogs a male brindle mixed breed(chow,coyote,pit,british rott) and a female full blood kelpie. and as soon as we unlocked the door and went in the place seemed like we just walked into a evil or very bad situation vib called for the dogs the wouldnt come and wasnt at the door greeting us like always, i made the ol lady stay at the door outside and i did a quick sweep and search, nobody was there all doors and windows locked nothing moved or in disorder, but the dogs. the male dog was wedged behind the dryer hiding and the the kelpie was in the shower with the curtain closed both were shaking in fear. brought the ol lady in and done a circle around the house, and no traces of anything outside either. I ended up trading the pair of speakers for a canon ae-1 program camera w/lens and such, and never has anything like that ever happened here again like that. sure i see ghost here and did have a object fly off the bookcase once but. after i got ride of them, the house felt alot better the wife said like fresher as she put it, i thought calmer. i always wondered what got into them or possessed them, i heard spirits/ghost/?? can travel from one place to another in objects and even switch from one object to another, dont know how true that is , but scary..
     
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    Thank you for sharing your story. The animals tells the truth when people think we talk the lie.
    I had birds. They were terrified by things I did not see. They were tame. Every time i came home they jumped into my sweater. Zero problemo, but i failed cause i was too stressed by the haunting and gave them away. I think i should have kept them and done some other priorities back then.

    Then I got cat and they were tame. The children was really cute and played with my toe and such. But once they were sleeping and suddenly woke up by a sudden for no reason. they were terrified, and both their cat mum and they was watching something flying around that I could not see. The mother was so scared she jumped at the kitchen table.
    The children got a good home I hope. :(

    why would any ghost or anything even attach to a object? I was at an exorcist. he asked me to get rid of all my unicorn collection and all other hunted items. Unfortunately i regret throwing away a golden jewellery with a ruby that i had had since child. And that ment really much to me. :( No fun
     
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    Nope, but I'd go back and try to duplicate it. Maybe someone was behind stocking the milk. Recently at the supermarket I reached way back to grab a carton of milk and accidentally grabbed the hand of the kid I didn't know was in there. Startled the hell out of me!
     
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    Excellent point. If there is something ethereal 'stuck' to these objects I bet WE put it there ourselves somehow.
     
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    Love food! It will be a pleasure to go back later this evening to buy a smoothie or some nuts or anything that will tempt me and yet not be of waste. Or a chewing gum.
    Is it legal to see a film of the episode from camera in store if i ask? I would feel stupid asking them, yet very tempting.

    I will take a picture and you can see. No. No one was in there and no one was behind me. That I am sure about. But it was a person who shouted out " Could you come here? " And a worker went out of the room in front of me to help someone. This is when all three doors went up at the same time. She did not open any door at all since door already was open.

    why would anyone put it there?
     
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    This is the haunted book " Deus Irae " I am filming to see if anything happens. The book was bought in Norlis Antiquarian in Oslo. They collect owls. Owls all over the book shelves protecting. Worth a visit if anyone is in Oslo.
     

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    If I'm an average demon on the fourth level of Hell and got bored then maybe I'd feng shui myself into a nice creepy doll or old rifle or something people would touch. Seems like Hell would be much more interesting though.

    People get fixated on objects, sometimes intensely. Maybe some people need a little longer let go of something Earthly that was important to them - and maybe The Rules allow it.

    No, I wouldn't ask for security camera film but I'd have my smartphone clipped to my jacket and have a video running next time I went in that mart.
     
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    Thank you for your respond. Here is a picture from the store from this evening walk. It is 7 doors. Not eight. Eight just seemed logical.
    It is smør - butter. Melk - milk. Yoghurt - Yoghurt. And to the right you see the door she went through is a from the roof and down to the floor door. Not a regular pang door that could cause wind.

    There are no way to the left. Easy to see people around.

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    Began to cry when reading in the paranormal web page you showed.
    I have this cruelty attached to me that I do not understand. One time when I was a child someone had cut open a cat and placed it in front of our door. It seems someone always had something really much against me - or someone and that the cruelty is attached to me more than an object.
    Like one time as a child I read an article and the girl explained a stranger had come into the bedroom at night and just sat there without doing anything and left.
    And I recalled that this had happened to me too.

    But it is not just a cruel spirit. It is also someone helping me. And then one time when my cat died I asked " Please show a sign you live ". Since that time I see 11.11. 13.13. 14. 14 all the time. I never did that before and it never interested me either.
    They tell it is an angel number.
    And many times i feel helped by angels.

    But what is the cruel spirit? It must be cruel because it seems to - come upon death and accidents.
     
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    This is very scary.
    It is difficult for any rats or mouses to come in to this apartment. It is small and in 3 floor. Everything is very closed here. And I would notise any small creature walking around cause all things are few.

    Here you see me walk into the shower. I open the door and close it. Then something starts to move in real hurry in opposite direction.
    Spooky!
    Is it the book Deus Irae?
    Someone should keep me with company tonight. Truly scary! A friend of mine has gone to bed before the message came and I sit alone scared and shivering. If it is a mouse then ok - some food would do fine. If it is a ghost - what food would it eat? Or complicated alien drone.
     

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    No. It is not a rat. It looks very much like a rat, but it actually goes into the wall. And that is physically impossible for a rat.
    Ok!. So Deus Irae is haunted!
    Or me.. Do not know
     
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    I didn't know what Deus Irae was until I looked it up. Not what I expected. Over on my shelf is a copy of Roger Zelazny's Last Defender of Camelot that I got when I was a kid. Too new, from my p.o.v. An old family Bible or something, then that's respectable for a haunting. :)

    I grew up in a 'haunted house' and I haven't related here even a fraction of the stories that surrounded it. I spent quite a lot of time scared s**tless because of them and they were the cause of a disturbing recurring nightmare. There's a thread here on AE you might like: My Haunted House Check out post #29 in that thread.

    Once I got past that I actually run toward weird noises and so forth. I used to spend a fair amount of time in the Town of North Hempstead's Town Hall

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    Supposedly the ghost of a little girl running around in the genuinely dark and scary basement. I almost gave the janitor a heart attack one night because I was working and heard someone moving around down there and I just tippy-toed right up to it hoping to see the kid. Nope. Just Orel cleaning up.

    Also one night not too far from where Phil Imbrogno was teaching high school I got stuck in this place
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    New York School for the Deaf in White Plains. I must say that even for a man who actually wants to go investigate odd noises this place absolutely takes the cake. Footsteps, door slams and moaning. Yes, actual for-real moaning. I figured out that it was the ancient heating system and you don't notice it until it's super quiet in the building. I never saw anything but if I had to recommend a site for 'investigators' this one would be on the list.

    In general it was my imagination. Even if I did turn the corner and see a ghostly little kid in the basement so what? I'm not afraid of children, even ghostly ones.
     
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    Thank you for sharing you story!

    Looks like a nice place to put hidden cameras. It is expensive with really good ones. And the cheap either needs wifi or have limit storage. etc. Good to use at home, but not in a haunted house where there might be wind creating ghostly shadow and things like that.

    I have to delete much on my phone to be able to film more - out of storage - first transfer to laptop takes time.
    Worth the money of a good camera if it is haunted.

    When it comes to Deus Irae I do not know if that would work with any other copies. Neither other books. It is just something attached to this specific book. Dies Irae means " Day of wrath ". But if you feel anything is haunted or equally, then you could try it out :)
    I honestly try to figure out if it is the book Deus Irae who is haunted, the building or me.

    I grew up in Ethiopia where there were witch doctors and all types of mixed spirituality. Dad tells it actually came rain after they sacrificed a goat to the Gods to get rain. But back home we lived very very far from civilisation and the hut we had further into the forest was told to be haunted.
    One person who lived there believed there were ghosts there, and to avoid been taken by ghosts, he had to jump to the bed instead of walking. he died at a mental hospital. It is not worth placing a camera there since it is used for guest, dinner parties, hunters in the forest taking a break or any other gathering.

    When walking in the forest around there I can sometimes hear children voices whisper and talking - One time I was inside the haunted house I could hear the children voices outside the house, but not inside. Animals reacts to the voices too.
     
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