Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life, philosophical/religious facts, theories etc.

Pavitram

Adept
Memories are a construct,. Reality and perceptions are subjective,. We are all here now presumably experiencing the same thing yet each of us possess our own unique views of this experience and each of us will carry that experience away with us ultimately remembering the encounter differently. Pavitram will remember expounding on his point,. Nivek will remember making a point about cumulative knowledge over eons, PigFarmer will remember making a point about the reliability of human recollection and my take away will be, oh that's the first time I saw Pavitram. For each of us that was the reality and yet for each of us the reality was starkly different and gift wrapped in our own biases and perceptions. We each experienced something almost completely different while striving to share an experience together. Reality by its very nature is an illusion our mind creates simply to organize the chaos.

this world is not an illusion, it is temporary. you are real and im also real but if you still do not believe this all than break some traffic laws and you will understrand it that whether it is real or not. or break any other laws than you will understand it.

now whether you accept mothers authoirty or not that is your business. but natures course will take its place and nothing depends on your believing or not believing. for the fact is fact.

but since people wants to be dog in their next life. so it is indeed an waste of valueable human form of life.
 

Pavitram

Adept
Also, It fascinates how people fantasize about what the next life will be like. We will all get the next iteration we have earned. The iteration we ourselves made for us in this incarnation. That's what this is. We are in the menu screen building our "character" the embodiment we will employ in our next outting. The lucky ones will do such a great job they will get to spend more time with their next incarnation than some others.

Btw, @ Nivek, I just noticed the nite theme in the menu settings for the site. Thank you for that, its so much easier on the eyes

man is the architect of his future. and there is knowledge in the book which i have in the link as it is ( dot ) com. it is not an false propaganda or advertisement by any celebritiy or tv star who gets sold for money and use there entire lives for getting more and more money.

and if anyone likes than one can break even the cycle of repeated birth, after birth, diseases, old age and death. and go back home. since we are all eternal beings and how can we be satisfied with something temporary ? and there is something eternal as well. but people do not want to take that but want to remain in this world. so it is their personal problem.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
The real trap isn't Sex honestly, The real trap is much more primal and ancient,. Its the darkness, or in this illustration, Lack of understanding, anyone with enough Spiritual Growth Will look at the idea of what sex is and realize The physical act isn't what people crave out of the act, its the Connection to others. Which leads to the understanding that emotions and feelings are extremely important in spirituality. Why are feelings so important? Because without spiritual growth,. We truly are no different than animals. Love is what people are addicted to emotional connection. And yet someone who doesn't fully comprehend that the physical act of Sex is only an expression of love, may believe sex is indeed love itself and become obsessed with the act. That's why words like, perverse and lewd seem to hang around the ideology of sex because when people perverse the idea of love and simplify the expression of love and religate that expression down to the physical act they lose site that the expression, the act, was only a side effect of the original feeling, a deep love and a bonding.
I agree that there's more to sex than the act itself but as a whole humans are a self obsessed lot not much different from the behavior seen in chimps at the zoo. Part of our internal wiring, plus our hands readily reach the most fun spots. That's not something western cultures invented or claim the sole right to.

How we view sex changes upon the culture and era. Beam in a first century Roman, maybe one who is married with a couple of kids. It wouldn't take long before that conversation got weird - views change over time, some times radically.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Religions that set down a moral code of behaviors in expectation of some later judgement, reward, punishment all have one thing in common - they are artificial human constructs. If you take the time to question their origin I expect the answer is more pedestrian than you might suspect - having to do with various sanitary practices, for example. Human made rules regarding some greater supernatural existence abound, and there's always someone leading the parade saying 'follow me I got it right'. Some are quite specific which instantly raises suspicion. So does posing impossible questions as claim to some superior knowledge. Presenting the obvious in a captivating way is right out of someone like Joel Osteen's book. Seems to me that if we are following a path to greater enlightenment one of the first rules should be 'don't let other people tell you what your path is figure it out yourself'

Would that be an interesting dividing line ?

Incidentally, Ian Stevenson documented a number of people who claim memory of past lives - the majority of which were in Asian cultures. There are those who remember being various animals and I remember one commenting on how hard life is as a snake. Well, no shit, I can only imagine. Who says that's automatically 'less' maybe as the result of poor choices in an earlier life? Life is Life, right? Maybe a more enlightened way to look at it would be to respect the fact that there are lessons to be learned everywhere.
 

Pavitram

Adept
Religions that set down a moral code of behaviors in expectation of some later judgement, reward, punishment all have one thing in common - they are artificial human constructs. If you take the time to question their origin I expect the answer is more pedestrian than you might suspect - having to do with various sanitary practices, for example. Human made rules regarding some greater supernatural existence abound, and there's always someone leading the parade saying 'follow me I got it right'. Some are quite specific which instantly raises suspicion. So does posing impossible questions as claim to some superior knowledge. Presenting the obvious in a captivating way is right out of someone like Joel Osteen's book. Seems to me that if we are following a path to greater enlightenment one of the first rules should be 'don't let other people tell you what your path is figure it out yourself'

Would that be an interesting dividing line ?

Incidentally, Ian Stevenson documented a number of people who claim memory of past lives - the majority of which were in Asian cultures. There are those who remember being various animals and I remember one commenting on how hard life is as a snake. Well, no shit, I can only imagine. Who says that's automatically 'less' maybe as the result of poor choices in an earlier life? Life is Life, right? Maybe a more enlightened way to look at it would be to respect the fact that there are lessons to be learned everywhere.

do you think that in modern schools evolution, big bang, moon landing, planet darwin iv etc are not taught ? and any student can pass the exam by going against the teachers ? do you think like that ? huh?

same things are going on but we right now listen to some prostitute instead of any real mother. that much difference is there. and what those prostitutes are doing ? nothing, simply bluffing that you came from the sky and i know everything and i see planet darwin iv from here beyond these walls from the office of nasa as an chief scientist of it.
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anyways, now there is nothing much left to discuss. since you are seeing everything, and why do you want to carry this farce now ? huh? what is the point in doing it so ? better mind your business and let me mind my own.
 
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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
and any student can pass the exam by going against the teachers ?
These days in the US what passes as topics and testing is an open question with endless vituperative mud slinging
better mind your business and let me mind my own.
OK. But if you post this in a discussion forum you run the risk of someone actually wanting to discuss something. Just saying. Speaking to people who just agree and listen is preaching
 

Pavitram

Adept
These days in the US what passes as topics and testing is an open question with endless vituperative mud slinging

OK. But if you post this in a discussion forum you run the risk of someone actually wanting to discuss something. Just saying. Speaking to people who just agree and listen is preaching

But you cannot discuss anything, for you simply want to run here and there. Especially when you can't answer anything straight forward.

Thus I have no interest to watch your running in my thread.
 

Pavitram

Adept
OK. Post away. Won’t disturb your repose anymore.
Yes, don't do cherry picking or wishful thinking business here like Christians and tell me that we are better than them as an atheists. While doing same things.

What is the value of your lecture? Since your not any recognized agent of God Or Krishna. And if you don't wish to put any effort as well than no need of making show here by picking some cherries which you liked the most.
 
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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I never really understood the real animosity people have for Christians,. Hear me out on this,. There are people starving world wide, A disease has rampaged the planet,. People are mass shooting each other and gas is 3,39 a gallon..


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I Jest of course, People Can think what they will, if everyone was the same things would be boring. Still, Gas is 3,39 a gallon, someone maybe does need to be crucified for that one...
 

Pavitram

Adept
I never really understood the real animosity people have for Christians,. Hear me out on this,. There are people starving world wide, A disease has rampaged the planet,. People are mass shooting each other and gas is 3,39 a gallon..

I Jest of course, People Can think what they will, if everyone was the same things would be boring. Still, Gas is 3,39 a gallon, someone maybe does need to be crucified for that one...

I don't have any animosity with anyone, and people are now not interested in either churches, temples or mosque or anything. Nor there is any philosophy or anything rational. They're simply sticking to dogmas and becoming fanatics.

Thus this chanting of holy name Hare Krishna is only method for this age of hypocrisy and quarrel.

Now you take it or enjoy repeated birth after birth, that's your business.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I said as an atheist don't think yourself better while behaving in same way as Christians behaves. Same cherry picking or Wishful thinking.

I'm not atheist...Also not a Christian...

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Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
Pavitram, you are a follower of Krishna? As for sex, I have that enough now for the rest of my life. I'm tired of hearing the disdain in many women's voices when they talk about men. I'm tired of hearing about how men don't do enough housework. For many women the domestic environment is much more important to them than it is for men, while men just want it to be livable so they focus on other projects. I know this is true, because I live alone --and manage to survive without a woman!! Sad to see men trying to have a life in a man cave. I can't think of a good reason to be in a relationship anymore; women now initiate the majority of divorces in the US. Dating for them is like using Grubhub, while so many men are left alone to be lonely because they are somehow not desirable! I'm done with it all for the remainder. Also the world doesn't need any more humans... I've gone my own way on the path less traveled, and it was the best choice. I feel permanent damage has / is being done to heterosexual relationships. For a very long time women had few rights, and had to be married to get by in society -- not anymore, and that is a good thing, obviously. But now it can be seen that marriage was serving a function in society, even if it was based on fewer right for women, and with it fading away, it is becoming clear that a lot of women never wanted men in their lives at all. Buhbye, then.

 
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Pavitram

Adept
Pavitram, you are a follower of Krishna? As for sex, I have that enough now for the rest of my life. I'm tired of hearing the disdain in many women's voices when they talk about men. I'm tired of hearing about how men don't do enough housework. For many women the domestic environment is much more important to them than it is for men, while men just want it to be livable so they focus on other projects. I know this is true, because I live alone --and manage to survive without a woman!! Sad to see men trying to have a life in a man cave. I can't think of a good reason to be in a relationship anymore; women now initiate the majority of divorces in the US. Dating for them is like using Grubhub, while so many men are left alone to be lonely because they are somehow not desirable! I'm done with it all for the remainder. Also the world doesn't need any more humans... I've gone my own way on the path less traveled, and it was the best choice. I feel permanent damage has / is being done to heterosexual relationships. For a very long time women had few rights, and had to be married to get by in society -- not anymore, and that is a good thing, obviously. But now it can be seen that marriage was serving a function in society, even if it was based on fewer right for women, and with it fading away, it is becoming clear that a lot of women never wanted men in their lives at all. Buhbye, then.
So what do you think? I'm trying to serve my Authority ( His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhipada) as far as my intelligence and my whatever small qualifications allows me.

So what can be done? Nobody remains as husband, nobody remains as wives in West. And you broken their shyness and now they're bearing fruits. And once women's shyness is broken. It is an permanent damage for the rest of her life. For she cannot remain chaste after it. No matter what. And entire world is imitating you. Anyways it also can be utilized. Provided you follow this chanting of Hare Krishna Maha - mantra.

But unfortunately in that also people have no interest. And why bother about marriage? When cow milk is available in the market? Who will bother to keep cow? Or wife? Since sex is available even in the street in West. So why they're going to keep the cow?
 
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