Georgek
George
I was merely concerned about the power of these icons.
Does that include the source from Twitter?
nivek
As Above So Below
What does deleting them have to do with any assumed power attached to them, just curious...
The source may be twitter but the media here does not get deleted even if it's deleted on twitter...If someone requests an image or post of theirs to be deleted for privacy concerns or something like that I usually will do it otherwise nothing is usually deleted...
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Georgek
George
What does deleting them have to do with any assumed power attached to them, just curious...
The source may be twitter but the media here does not get deleted even if it's deleted on twitter...If someone requests an image or post of theirs to be deleted for privacy concerns or something like that I usually will do it otherwise nothing is usually deleted...
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I don't think you realise the difference in our beliefs.
Certain images have power attached to them.
Such as this:-
The Curse of the Crying Boy Painting
These icons I will explain later
Normally images are 'jumped' from the source of their upload.
For example 'PhotoBucket' had altered it's policy and many images had crashed on forums.
All what is happening 'nivek' is that as the thread is opened here, it joins up with Twitter. If Twitter went down, so would the visual imagery which is connected through Twitter.
Just like 'YouTube'
You will get something like:- "This video is not available anymore."
A red orb for example is dangerous and means illness or death.
Don't believe it...fine.
Just like the curse of the tombs of ancient Egypt.
Thought energy which had been focused creates what is termed as an Artificial Elemental.
Thoughtforms: Artificial Elemental
Toroid
Founding Member
What site did you get them from? Can you identify the language on the images? I tried reverse image search and got nothing.
Georgek
George
Hello Toroid,
Thank you very much for your request. I was hoping that John would ask his wife about these images as she is claimed to be psychic.
The icons are in fact Greek (Cypriot) and consist of the four apostles:-
1) John
2) Mark
3) Mathew
4) Luke.
Although I can understand and speak a little Greek, I cannot read Greek because I was born here in Nottingham England.
The actual age of the paint is around 2000 years old and have their origin from the Holy Land at the time of Jesus.
They originate is from the Trooditissia Monestery in the Troodos Hills in Cyprus
monasteries troodos cyprus - Google Search
This is interesting and I will make my point later.
One of the oldest monasteries in Cyprus well known throughout the Orthodox world for the miraculous belt of Saint Mary Trooditissa. According to many testimonies of pilgrims, many women who could not have children became pregnant and gave birth. Trooditissa monastery is very close to mount Olympus (the highest peak of the island) and thus in turn it's the monastery with the highest altitude. It is a male communal monastery.
The icons themselves can do miracles and even heal. If you can imagine 2000 years of intensified Thought Energy being absorbed by total Christian dedication, this is how powerful they are.It is not the actual images so much as the paint which had been melted from old icons and the pigments used over and over again throughout the centuries.
The word I would like to use Toroid...is 'sacred'
The icons came about to be with our family after my great grandmother failed to give birth. Every child had died.
It was suggested by the priests that my great grandmother go to the monastery of Troodisia and light a candle to the saints and have the icons painted by the nuns in order so that her next child would live.
My grandmother was born and gave birth to my mother who gave birth to me.
They were told that the icons will protect the family and the house and to place each one in each corner of the room.
By which this was done.
My Mother
Business had failed in Cyprus due to the British occupation as famine swept the land because all the countries wealth went to England.
Before my mother, grandmother and auntie sailed to England on the SS Kyrenia (spelling) she was warned of a great storm by the saints in her dream, that she must light another candle for safe passage as this storm will be one of the mightiest ever remembered.
From a clear blue sky and warm weather as the ship sailed ..I think January 1948, a massive storm hit the ship. Helicopter crews or aircraft were flying over the ship as she was turning 'The Shoe' at Italy.
4ft of water filled the cabins and broke the glass ports as the ship rose and fell almost hitting the bottom of the Mediterranean .
People on board began praying for survival as each was issued with safety jackets and the boaats were getting ready to be lowered.
My mother passed out as the saints told her not to worry because the ship would survive.
The ship finally crawled into the port of Marseilles in Southern France as to never sail again. I think it was later purchased by a company who had it rebuilt?
These icons now protect my house in Newark and also protect me.
You will now find that all that you had read about me on this forum is starting to fit.
Without being too presumptuous, they want me alive.
If anyone comes near my house the gods take over. Gods..saints UFOs...I do not know as they will not reveal themselves.
Their power can be witnessed on this very forum and now you know, why Conan Poe came up with:-
"The gods have sent me things of prophetic significance"
If you recollect my burglar alarm going off as a warning that our house was under threat by the neighbour...the box has the number 4 on it.
Every time he was there, my doorbell used to ring by itself and I recorded him.
The door bell always rand 4 times.
On the 5th November when we successfully had him stoped by the court.....our doorbell rang by itself for the very last time, but instead of the normal 'ding-dong' played a 'D' Day victory tune or The Bells of St Clements never to ring by itself again after having rang at least ten times in every single week.
I once placed the icons on my bed and set my video camera for EVPs.
The icons began talking but unclear. It appeared that they were quoting me verses from the bible in soft English.
I know this sounds ambiguous and fool of different meanings but they do have power.
Also I have a recording of my mother when she sailed to England.
This is from Julie after I began worrying about our court case
Also regarding the challenge live on forum about Maine fora hurricane?
They take over and will not let me fall. Providing that there is a reason?
Regards
George
Thank you very much for your request. I was hoping that John would ask his wife about these images as she is claimed to be psychic.
The icons are in fact Greek (Cypriot) and consist of the four apostles:-
1) John
2) Mark
3) Mathew
4) Luke.
Although I can understand and speak a little Greek, I cannot read Greek because I was born here in Nottingham England.
The actual age of the paint is around 2000 years old and have their origin from the Holy Land at the time of Jesus.
They originate is from the Trooditissia Monestery in the Troodos Hills in Cyprus
monasteries troodos cyprus - Google Search
This is interesting and I will make my point later.
One of the oldest monasteries in Cyprus well known throughout the Orthodox world for the miraculous belt of Saint Mary Trooditissa. According to many testimonies of pilgrims, many women who could not have children became pregnant and gave birth. Trooditissa monastery is very close to mount Olympus (the highest peak of the island) and thus in turn it's the monastery with the highest altitude. It is a male communal monastery.
The icons themselves can do miracles and even heal. If you can imagine 2000 years of intensified Thought Energy being absorbed by total Christian dedication, this is how powerful they are.It is not the actual images so much as the paint which had been melted from old icons and the pigments used over and over again throughout the centuries.
The word I would like to use Toroid...is 'sacred'
The icons came about to be with our family after my great grandmother failed to give birth. Every child had died.
It was suggested by the priests that my great grandmother go to the monastery of Troodisia and light a candle to the saints and have the icons painted by the nuns in order so that her next child would live.
My grandmother was born and gave birth to my mother who gave birth to me.
They were told that the icons will protect the family and the house and to place each one in each corner of the room.
By which this was done.
My Mother
Business had failed in Cyprus due to the British occupation as famine swept the land because all the countries wealth went to England.
Before my mother, grandmother and auntie sailed to England on the SS Kyrenia (spelling) she was warned of a great storm by the saints in her dream, that she must light another candle for safe passage as this storm will be one of the mightiest ever remembered.
From a clear blue sky and warm weather as the ship sailed ..I think January 1948, a massive storm hit the ship. Helicopter crews or aircraft were flying over the ship as she was turning 'The Shoe' at Italy.
4ft of water filled the cabins and broke the glass ports as the ship rose and fell almost hitting the bottom of the Mediterranean .
People on board began praying for survival as each was issued with safety jackets and the boaats were getting ready to be lowered.
My mother passed out as the saints told her not to worry because the ship would survive.
The ship finally crawled into the port of Marseilles in Southern France as to never sail again. I think it was later purchased by a company who had it rebuilt?
These icons now protect my house in Newark and also protect me.
You will now find that all that you had read about me on this forum is starting to fit.
Without being too presumptuous, they want me alive.
If anyone comes near my house the gods take over. Gods..saints UFOs...I do not know as they will not reveal themselves.
Their power can be witnessed on this very forum and now you know, why Conan Poe came up with:-
"The gods have sent me things of prophetic significance"
If you recollect my burglar alarm going off as a warning that our house was under threat by the neighbour...the box has the number 4 on it.
Every time he was there, my doorbell used to ring by itself and I recorded him.
The door bell always rand 4 times.
On the 5th November when we successfully had him stoped by the court.....our doorbell rang by itself for the very last time, but instead of the normal 'ding-dong' played a 'D' Day victory tune or The Bells of St Clements never to ring by itself again after having rang at least ten times in every single week.
I once placed the icons on my bed and set my video camera for EVPs.
The icons began talking but unclear. It appeared that they were quoting me verses from the bible in soft English.
I know this sounds ambiguous and fool of different meanings but they do have power.
Also I have a recording of my mother when she sailed to England.
This is from Julie after I began worrying about our court case
Also regarding the challenge live on forum about Maine fora hurricane?
They take over and will not let me fall. Providing that there is a reason?
Regards
George
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Georgek
George
I get this:-...
They can even move across forums.
They also get librarians to hand me bits of paper.
Kykkos Monastery Cyprus
Kykkos Momastery
My mother often told me about the silver gilt icon.
Something about a man wanting to marry the daughter of a king and had been refused.
He painted her and said as he could not have her...no one will see her image and covered it in this veil of silver.
Although it can be removed (my story has inaccuracies) no one dare peek behind it as it remained like that for centuries.
It remained in the monastery for centuries and a man around the 1800s tried to light his cigarette in the monastery beside the icon.
His arm was severed from the elbow as the the skeleton until recently hung beside the icon which was covered with cloth.
Stavrovoni Monastery Cyprus
There contains part of the originaal cross that Jesus was crucified on.
Stavrovouni Monastery - Wikipedia
A Church Whilst We Were Visiting Cyprus
I will have to try and find the photograph of the painting of St George taken in the church.
This was before the first war when we invaded Iraq.
People had gone to the church to pray as not to have another war. The last time the painting wept was when there was war between the Christians and the Muslims.
On that particular day, tears started rolling down the eyes of the painting as a woman began screaming hysterically.
The congregation all saw tears rolling down from the eyes and ran out of the church screaming.
We went to see this icon and found this to be absolutely sincere by the janitor of the church.
Mum asked him more questions and he said that it was not just the tears that scared everyone, but the eyes started moving around looking at everyone.
I will post this picture when I find it.
A few days later, war broke out between Iraq and the USA.
It was the best flight home I ever had, the plane was empty as no one dare fly in case the plane got shot out of the sky.
Strange as it seems....my partner and I had to sit at opposite ends of the aircraft to balance the plane...lol
They can even move across forums.
They also get librarians to hand me bits of paper.
Kykkos Monastery Cyprus
Kykkos Momastery
My mother often told me about the silver gilt icon.
Something about a man wanting to marry the daughter of a king and had been refused.
He painted her and said as he could not have her...no one will see her image and covered it in this veil of silver.
Although it can be removed (my story has inaccuracies) no one dare peek behind it as it remained like that for centuries.
It remained in the monastery for centuries and a man around the 1800s tried to light his cigarette in the monastery beside the icon.
His arm was severed from the elbow as the the skeleton until recently hung beside the icon which was covered with cloth.
Stavrovoni Monastery Cyprus
There contains part of the originaal cross that Jesus was crucified on.
Stavrovouni Monastery - Wikipedia
A Church Whilst We Were Visiting Cyprus
I will have to try and find the photograph of the painting of St George taken in the church.
This was before the first war when we invaded Iraq.
People had gone to the church to pray as not to have another war. The last time the painting wept was when there was war between the Christians and the Muslims.
On that particular day, tears started rolling down the eyes of the painting as a woman began screaming hysterically.
The congregation all saw tears rolling down from the eyes and ran out of the church screaming.
We went to see this icon and found this to be absolutely sincere by the janitor of the church.
Mum asked him more questions and he said that it was not just the tears that scared everyone, but the eyes started moving around looking at everyone.
I will post this picture when I find it.
A few days later, war broke out between Iraq and the USA.
It was the best flight home I ever had, the plane was empty as no one dare fly in case the plane got shot out of the sky.
Strange as it seems....my partner and I had to sit at opposite ends of the aircraft to balance the plane...lol
nivek
As Above So Below
I don't think you realize how much you assume things incorrectly, and I gave no implications of denial nor support for any belief system in my prior responses, why are you defensive?...
Indeed, quite possible and not just images either...I gave no impression I was denying this in my earlier replies...
If you say so...
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Georgek
George
I don't think you realize how much you assume things incorrectly, and I gave no implications of denial nor support for any belief system in my prior responses, why are you defensive?...
Society had taught me to stick up for myself as I had learnt from my past. I fight for my beliefs, my properties and respect.
Without these, we become an auto-matron to the ways of others. We lose our identity. You forget that I can read people 'nivek'. In normal circumstances you would stand correct.
That does not mean that I have to tell people what I know of their personal beliefs?
Indeed, quite possible and not just images either...I gave no impression I was denying this in my earlier replies...
If hence you understand did you not also understand my points that I had been making all along that there is a powerful energy that is with me?
Take a look at Chris's writings above. Can you not work that one out?
Someone had challenged me. Now this is interesting.....
It all goes back to this ego bit by why which I write:-
"For I am...as great be the power that gives breath to man"
"I hold mt ground...my staff in the soil"
Wow we....did I say all this? Not my words but the power that was in me.
So what do you think happened next 'nivek'?
This moderator wanted to delete it. He was in fact now corresponding with THEM.
His vision was blinded and the words:- "None recycle" entered his vision...so he held back and dare not do anything.
What do you thing these words mean?
None recycle????
Think about it.
Let me tell you....
It means that every byte that is deleted from either volatile or static memory is used up again. With forums I think they call it 'bandwidth'
Bandwidth is increased by releasing free bytes which can further be taken up by new postings.
He was told:- "You will not delete" and he held back. This guy is a logical down to earth guy.
These entities can literally move from my keyboard into your living room if they wanted.
The reasons why I suggested that I should remove them is in case they are abused in any way verbally?
They have great power.
If you really believed or understood, you would have worked this out for yourself.
Imagery holds a lot of power as you can accept.
Last night I took a walk in Newark. Every street I walked there were images of devastation in my head as it became nauseating . Julie had to hold me up. If you read my post on Newark the report is there.
Proof? NO! Interesting? YES.
'Nivek'...you are a 'dark horse' ...lol with the greatest of respect. You know it...I know it. and yer.....who blames you?
I just think it must be dull? Take care mate
Regards
George
Toroid
Founding Member
I heard a story on Coast to Coast AM years ago. A boy that was possessed by an entity had a small statue of the archangel Michael placed next to his bed. He went to battle with the entity and it left. This was the boy depicted in the movie The Exorcist. It's possible these beings are manifested into existence by AI just by people believing in them.
Georgek
George
Hello Toroid,I heard a story on Coast to Coast AM years ago. A boy that was possessed by an entity had a small statue of the archangel Michael placed next to his bed. He went to battle with the entity and it left. This was the boy depicted in the movie The Exorcist. It's possible these beings are manifested into existence by AI just by people believing in them.
I think when we look at the 'whole picture' (that's a good one...lol), Images do have power and certain character attachments?
If you read the scriptures ...I think you will find that God does not like craven images? There is also some kind of ominous attachment to them.
Although the bible is full of multi gods, it speaks of 'him with no name' . Perhaps for good reason?
Names have power.
In churches, we have altars and not many people realise why? The altar is the focal point of prayer energy and can create powerful stimuli in sacred images.
Over in England we have Ley Lines as this is more in Frank Earp's line.
Ley lines are earth energy fields allowing the transmission of psychic energy to various energy collecting centres.
The Christians later took these lines to build their churches.
I think'Thought Forms' generate around the focal point of these energies?
I found this on the Internet that may be interesting:-
Images may become divine when they are initiated in and through a ritual. ... For the devotees the image is a way of engaging the holy. This, of course, makes the image sacred but not in and of itself a deity.
nivek
As Above So Below
Society had taught me to stick up for myself as I had learnt from my past. I fight for my beliefs, my properties and respect.
Without these, we become an auto-matron to the ways of others. We lose our identity. You forget that I can read people 'nivek'. In normal circumstances you would stand correct.
That does not mean that I have to tell people what I know of their personal beliefs?
If hence you understand did you not also understand my points that I had been making all along that there is a powerful energy that is with me?
Take a look at Chris's writings above. Can you not work that one out?
Someone had challenged me. Now this is interesting.....
It all goes back to this ego bit by why which I write:-
"For I am...as great be the power that gives breath to man"
"I hold mt ground...my staff in the soil"
Wow we....did I say all this? Not my words but the power that was in me.
So what do you think happened next 'nivek'?
This moderator wanted to delete it. He was in fact now corresponding with THEM.
His vision was blinded and the words:- "None recycle" entered his vision...so he held back and dare not do anything.
What do you thing these words mean?
None recycle????
Think about it.
Let me tell you....
It means that every byte that is deleted from either volatile or static memory is used up again. With forums I think they call it 'bandwidth'
Bandwidth is increased by releasing free bytes which can further be taken up by new postings.
He was told:- "You will not delete" and he held back. This guy is a logical down to earth guy.
These entities can literally move from my keyboard into your living room if they wanted.
The reasons why I suggested that I should remove them is in case they are abused in any way verbally?
They have great power.
If you really believed or understood, you would have worked this out for yourself.
Imagery holds a lot of power as you can accept.
Last night I took a walk in Newark. Every street I walked there were images of devastation in my head as it became nauseating . Julie had to hold me up. If you read my post on Newark the report is there.
Proof? NO! Interesting? YES.
'Nivek'...you are a 'dark horse' ...lol with the greatest of respect. You know it...I know it. and yer.....who blames you?
I just think it must be dull? Take care mate
Regards
George
Putting aside all deipnosophy, that was quite a symphony...I would like to mention that the reflections and inflections are really in the details, granted these are typically overlooked when using binoculars...Remnants of what you seek are scattered all about and throughout and they are certainly within reach, but seriously, kalling can be likened to the loose stuffing used to keep cargo from getting wet and circular discourse can be compared to gyromancy, walking in a circle until you fall down...A raincoat can be made out of an old sack, but a five-stringed harp from Finland could also mimic an extreme nasal sound in one's voice when played inappropriately...
Getting back to the refection of a reflection of a reflection...As I said, there are many well-thumbed copies laying about in plain sight, the use of binoculars certainly can keep one smiling though, for instance, seeing and describing a bird with a curved beak of having wings like stones, adding in all sorts of colourful details and all the while there sits before the viewer a cup of tea next to some dry old biscuits on the table, reflections...Still though, while a left handed person who is trained to use their right hand may sometimes incorrectly double a letter when spelling a word, a person who studies hummingbirds will rarely give care to the detailed stitching of a tricorne and it could be because that person is unknowingly textophobic, again mistaken reflections...Letting one's eye wonder whilst using a loupe to study the writings on restroom walls can create profound melancholy...
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Georgek
George
So what you are saying is 'nit-picking'? Looking for faults that are not really there?
Life had taught me that there is a war out there. It teaches me to be vigilant and to 'watch my back'
The trouble is 'nivek' that I did not realise that there was a war out there. To me...it was just a spate of growing up.
I love your world but I don't want to lose mine.
nivek
As Above So Below
Life is only real when I am, there is no 'my' world, there is only the real world, everything else is imagination and play...
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Georgek
George
Hello 'nevek'
How are you?
I am gonna move in here...because I had earlier made a point about knowing you
This is why you used Astronomy as your example.
It is a down to earth rationalisation of the universe.
Likewise with your 'nuts and bolts' theory about UFOs.
You are waiting for the day when science and aliens come together and everything will be revealed.
It ain't ever going to happen because our governments already know about UFOs and they cannot possibly reveal anything about them.
It would destroy society, religion and the back bone of science itself.
This is the world of illusion because things only appear in the way that they do..
We see things based on our perception.
There is no such thing as colour, sound or touch. Everything is vibration like light turning to heat and the different sensitivities of hearing.
Who can say what is correct? We are physically made the same and our physical senses are similar...that is all.
We look at an insect and think we are better. No better or worse..just different. What is real or unreal?
Of course this is a 'cold reading' but I sensed it in a different way.
Our whole science on UFOs is wrong. We see what they can do and try and fit it into our world by 'free fall'
The very basis of science says it cannot happen here in our atmosphere externally.
Here on forum we try and rationalise as to work out the big picture and how these UFOs work and where they come from?
It is futile. I still have no idea how they do these things.
I phoned up a Dr Mathis from Nottingham University about 35 years ago so that his space research team could look at my photographs.
He went quiet when I explained how they got on my camera.
"Do you expect me to believe that!!"
I shrugged my shoulders and said:- "yes"
So he put the phone down on me. His world was real and mine was wrong. I would have never done that, because my curiosity is too great.
I told the TRUTH.
Got no idea how the extra-terrestrials did it...but they did!
My scientific instinct was to reject it all...but my intelligence flows in a different direction.
These scientific guys are only good at copying ideas. No divine thought or perhaps a breakaway from conventional ideas.
The highlight of my points are the hurricane storms. When I write...I am almost cringing. I wonder what folks are sometimes thinking?
Then I just do not care...because I got past caring. Oh yer..respectability and science but I got past all this 'nevek' when I was 15 years old.
I stood in my garden after flashing into the night sky as that light came down in a 'whoosh' I watched the whole ground light up as the brightest day and signs flash on our coal house wall.
It was like that film Close Encounters with Richard Drayfuss.
No noise object or even a hint of a UFO.
It happened. Then other things started happening.
You see...most folks are so unsecured, that they feel that that their mentality is failing? I do not.
There is nothing what anyone can say to me as to accept it was in my mind. I am sharp, concise and real.
These UFOs do not hide themselves from others who may be with me? They appear in front of strangers who just stare with their mouths open.
I looked at this guy who was walking with me to our cars in the car park. I said nothing to him...not a word.
It was the time that I was flashing my car headlights into the night and got replies. It stopped when I went in the pub, and I had forgotten the event after I had left the pub. It is just that I am used to it all. He was not.
Like I said......there was no discussion.
He turned and looked at both Julie and myself after staring up in the sky and said:- "I don't know what is going on...but some things are best left unsaid!"
People wonder why UFOs and aliens (whatever) should waste their time with me, and not go to a scientist?
Well...because most are just idiots. They are just good at copying ideas and when certain things do not fit, they just run away.
Don't get me wrong sir...I am not saying that you are an idiot...far from it because just like myself you believe that you are correct.
You believe one way and I the other...... and you are LISTENING.
They are not.
We are learning despite our differences because just like me...you are also looking for answers.
It is what makes us better than they are.
Regards
George
How are you?
I am gonna move in here...because I had earlier made a point about knowing you
This is why you used Astronomy as your example.
It is a down to earth rationalisation of the universe.
Likewise with your 'nuts and bolts' theory about UFOs.
You are waiting for the day when science and aliens come together and everything will be revealed.
It ain't ever going to happen because our governments already know about UFOs and they cannot possibly reveal anything about them.
It would destroy society, religion and the back bone of science itself.
This is the world of illusion because things only appear in the way that they do..
We see things based on our perception.
There is no such thing as colour, sound or touch. Everything is vibration like light turning to heat and the different sensitivities of hearing.
Who can say what is correct? We are physically made the same and our physical senses are similar...that is all.
We look at an insect and think we are better. No better or worse..just different. What is real or unreal?
Of course this is a 'cold reading' but I sensed it in a different way.
Our whole science on UFOs is wrong. We see what they can do and try and fit it into our world by 'free fall'
The very basis of science says it cannot happen here in our atmosphere externally.
Here on forum we try and rationalise as to work out the big picture and how these UFOs work and where they come from?
It is futile. I still have no idea how they do these things.
I phoned up a Dr Mathis from Nottingham University about 35 years ago so that his space research team could look at my photographs.
He went quiet when I explained how they got on my camera.
"Do you expect me to believe that!!"
I shrugged my shoulders and said:- "yes"
So he put the phone down on me. His world was real and mine was wrong. I would have never done that, because my curiosity is too great.
I told the TRUTH.
Got no idea how the extra-terrestrials did it...but they did!
My scientific instinct was to reject it all...but my intelligence flows in a different direction.
These scientific guys are only good at copying ideas. No divine thought or perhaps a breakaway from conventional ideas.
The highlight of my points are the hurricane storms. When I write...I am almost cringing. I wonder what folks are sometimes thinking?
Then I just do not care...because I got past caring. Oh yer..respectability and science but I got past all this 'nevek' when I was 15 years old.
I stood in my garden after flashing into the night sky as that light came down in a 'whoosh' I watched the whole ground light up as the brightest day and signs flash on our coal house wall.
It was like that film Close Encounters with Richard Drayfuss.
No noise object or even a hint of a UFO.
It happened. Then other things started happening.
You see...most folks are so unsecured, that they feel that that their mentality is failing? I do not.
There is nothing what anyone can say to me as to accept it was in my mind. I am sharp, concise and real.
These UFOs do not hide themselves from others who may be with me? They appear in front of strangers who just stare with their mouths open.
I looked at this guy who was walking with me to our cars in the car park. I said nothing to him...not a word.
It was the time that I was flashing my car headlights into the night and got replies. It stopped when I went in the pub, and I had forgotten the event after I had left the pub. It is just that I am used to it all. He was not.
Like I said......there was no discussion.
He turned and looked at both Julie and myself after staring up in the sky and said:- "I don't know what is going on...but some things are best left unsaid!"
People wonder why UFOs and aliens (whatever) should waste their time with me, and not go to a scientist?
Well...because most are just idiots. They are just good at copying ideas and when certain things do not fit, they just run away.
Don't get me wrong sir...I am not saying that you are an idiot...far from it because just like myself you believe that you are correct.
You believe one way and I the other...... and you are LISTENING.
They are not.
We are learning despite our differences because just like me...you are also looking for answers.
It is what makes us better than they are.
Regards
George
nivek
As Above So Below
Apologies George but you know nothing about me and are wrong on all counts concerning myself, simply because it is you that you see and are absorbed in...All of your wars and battles with your neighbors, the ghosts and wisps you chase, the fleeting remotes, all mirrored in a fashion to keep you in the headwinds of those turbulent thoughts...Life is only real when you are and only those seeking war will find war, I wish you well though, one must remember to remember oneself but in a way to avoid suffication...
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Georgek
George
There will always be wars and I am used to fighting them.
When there were no wars I had nothing.
I do not like bullies and in order to keep what I have, I will fight for my rights and dignity and let no one take away from me what is not theirs to take.
If wars come my way, I will fight them.
People have always fended and protected their lands and you should know as they even came across to invade America.
No one said that you must get on with them and let them stay.
I live in a nation of aggressors.
I find you very insulting at times 'nivek'
Why do I look for wars when others come to attack me?
We paid a lot of money for what we had earned and I think it is insulting having to say that I look for wars when I just want to live my life in peace.
I paid for my property on the basis that I own it.
I am different and others will always bully me. It is like birds and other animals because we do not fit in. It comes with the job of not belonging in this world. My world is the next world which you do not see. I want to go home in the land of peace and tranquillity where still waters and pine trees blow with the wind.
As you have no further right to say that to me, than f I said that to you, if someone came and tried to take your house.
It is called respect which people have fought and died for.
Your whole history is based on respect and it is a word that emphasises the credence and pride of an individual and the RIGHT TO BE THERE.
nivek
As Above So Below
My apologies George, I was speaking from an 'inner' angle and clearly you are 'out there' fighting the good fight...Carry on then, best of luck...
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Georgek
George
Hello 'nivek'
I did not mean to be rude.
If it had been anyone else apart from them, it would not have responded in that way.
We had suffered a lot and were not prepared to be ordered on our property by them. It would have simply been a case of doing what we are told as any congenial effort on my behalf would have resulted in being exploited.
The more we complained, the worse it became and we were in danger of becoming a nuisance. We were losing the rights to our property as given by deeds. We had no choice but to get the council and police off 'our backs'
They 'disappeared into the blue mist' as sudden as they had arrived as we issued court proceedings.
My judge friend Mike told me about the scales of justice. "Look at the scales" he said
"The law of the land as they cannot break your deeds"
This thread is not all about:- "How I fought the law and won"
It is about the four icons of the apostles.
Fighting the good fight is not the idiom of glory. It is a miserable survival to keep what we have.
You made a point about not having a belief system.
This does not implement you as an agnostic or void from the system.
It merely suggests to me that you are none committal.
We all believe in something if not in ourselves.
What makes us different from others is what we believe?
Believing in nothing makes us nothing other than the materialistic existence of our selves.
We are not that different you and i, apart from our beliefs in plain simple texts.
The void of the pen is the concealment of the protective layer in our hearts.
I feel a certain apathy in your writings and words for the moral justice of mankind.
Depicting honour as a reconfiguration of misaligned justice is no more than saying that we are just mortals on a material existence.
As to see no glory...hope or aspirations less the flow of ambiguity is to not only to see materialism but to employ it.
The real world as you put it, is as tangible to you as imagination is to me.
To put it into one meaning and not to express both factors of controlled and uncontrolled imagination and making them the same is not fair.
Although not intentionally, it expresses a denouncement of my wold compared to yours.
Yes of course 'nivek'...I respect your thoughts as whatever my limitations may be in understanding them?
You have a right to these and the only reason why I am discussing them is because I do not think you had got the meaning of my post about icons.
The points which I tried to express, is that I do have spiritual protection.
In forms of UFOs...icons...spirit guardians...whatever?
These forces want me alive and I had been trying to give validation by the posts which you may consider as arguments?
Whenever something happens...I am pre-warned for my survival. With the case of my house...the spirits/UFOs want me there and do not want me to move.
Desperate as I am to move, even our estate agent is questioning if there are forces at work stopping our property from being sold?
I think when I first came here, you thought I was a complete crackpot? Lol You are not so sure now because you are not stupid.
You have also based your opinion about me and you sincerely understand the friction I come across because I am simply just me.
My life had always been traumatic with others even when I did everything that I was told. I was a fool and an idiot back then (so I was told) but now Ia m just a bad man. It boils down to the same thing...none compliance and a failure to be like others. Oh yer...I got bullied a lot, told of my failures over and over and even got a nervous breakdown for trying to be like them. I lost half my friends for not fighting back and ended up in the gutter with no money, job or education. I was not much of a man but was better than nothing.
Now I am myself.
A fighter now, I see?
I do honestly think you are a good person and I offer you my respect
Regards
George