Old Encounters

Todd Feinman

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Amazing. Animal reaction: the hawks get the heck out of there...
Dalby Herald (Qld. : 1910 - 1954), Tuesday 22 April 1952, page 1
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Todd Feinman

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So we have a number of teardrop UFOs seen, including the drawing of the sighting by the Australian teacher and his class, and the sighting by the Astronomy student. We also have pinkish cloaked objects traveling on formation, coming out of the ocean of Australia as spindle-shaped objects and then traveling over land as ovals casting shadows as big as locomotives on the ground. Some even coming into atmosphere and scaring off hawks.. Many seen around coasts coming into Australia from ocean.
 

Todd Feinman

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Love it.
Richmond River Express and Casino Kyogle Advertiser (NSW : 1904 - 1929), Friday 2 October 1914, page 7
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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
The context that 'got' me about the LA incident was in connecting two pieces of information that I never realized fit together. There is a parallel with studying history, and I am a bit of a history junkie.

When we hear a UFO report very often the credibility of the eyewitness is reinforced in some way by citing credentials, professional standing, whatever. Rightly so too. Even when you filter out the obvious fakery and BS you're still left with an awful lot of people who want to sincerely give their version of an extraordinary incident.

Take something as huge and recent and well documented as the second world war. Historians love first hand accounts from participants, memoirs, etc. They are all part of the big picture. But decades of writing about it revealed all sorts of flaws in the 'official history' because a new generation of authors, new research tools and the dissolution of various cultural interpretations allowed them to be seen. Self-serving or just inaccurate accounts aren't discounted, they are still valuable records from participants, just put into perspective. Cut to the chase: eyewitness testimony alone is unreliable as a matter of historical record. One of the problems historians have with ancient accounts is the scarcity of sources. If the history of WW2 is a still a 'work in progress' then how accurate do you think a single source account of a single incident might be?

Herodotus: Father of History or Father of Lies?

Consider this: my skepticism is rooted in the mindf**k my older brother played upon me. I love him sincerely, but older brothers are genetically compelled to mess around with the heads of their younger siblings. Shortly after my first UFO encounter with him and his girlfriend - which was very startling and frightening at the time even if it turned out to be a blimp - he moved away. Then sent me a letter detailing a further CE2K encounter he claimed to have had with the same object a thousand miles away. Well, a story like that today would light a number of people's pants on fire. Did then too. That's why I contacted Ted Bloecher and why they had their field investigator in WI calling my brother for an interview. Years later he admitted he made it up to screw with me and hadn't counted on me being quite so resourceful with my typewriter and rotary phone.

Fast forward to now. As a witness to the famed Hudson Valley Lights and a person who regularly sees the same weird crap they think are spacecraft right over there in Pine Bush imagine how convincing I could make my eyewitness account if I really wanted to. But I don't. I just told the literal truth because at the time I recognized what I was looking at. If I wanted attention, recognition, maybe draw attention to a UFO book I was writing .... you get the idea.
 

Todd Feinman

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I think skepticism is good as long as one is open to possibilities, and you are. :)
I understand the plight of the skeptic --it is just the nature of these things. If I hadn't had my experience and looked at the others from the past, I'd have a similar mindset to many open-minded skeptics. That's part of the skill of the contact, I believe --it doesn't cause a catastrophic tipping point, yet people are interacting with them.
 

Todd Feinman

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Dr. Feliks Ziegel (was astronomy professor at Moscow Aviation Institute)
Mentions observations of discs through 8x magnification binoculars:

The Bryan Times - Google News Archive Search

"Around the disc at a distance of its two diameters, there were three balls like the one in the center of the disc. The balls slowly rotated around the disc, and the whole system dwindled as it receded from the earth. Some 15 to 20 minutes later, the balls began to depart from the disc in different directions"

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Feliks Ziegel Bio:
Felix Ziegel - Wikipedia

Looks like the government destroyed his life and confiscated the copies of the book.

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Todd Feinman

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From Zigel:

"These UFOs have been seen all over the USSR; the craft of every possible shape, small, large, flattened, spherical. They are able to remain stationary in the atmosphere or shoot along at 100,000 kilometers per hour. They move without producing the slightest sound, by creating around themselves a pneumatic vacuum that protects them from burning up in our stratosphere. Their craft have the mysterious capacity to vanish and reappear at will. Besides, they are able to affect our power resources, putting to a halt our electricity-generating plants, our radio stations, and our engines, without, however, leaving any permanent damage. So refined a technology can only be the fruit of an intelligence that is indeed far superior to ours.[1]"

Sounds like AATIP and Elizondo.
Felix Ziegel - Wikipedia
 

1963

Noble
Hi Skepticide ... just wanted to pop in and remark "Great thread mate" . :Thumbsup: .. I have lived all of these old cases for most of my life and am still halted in my tracks when they are presented, simply because they are eternally fascinating!
... Keep up the good work matey. :good:

Cheers Buddy.
 

Todd Feinman

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Hi Skepticide ... just wanted to pop in and remark "Great thread mate" . :Thumbsup: .. I have lived all of these old cases for most of my life and am still halted in my tracks when they are presented, simply because they are eternally fascinating!
... Keep up the good work matey. :good:

Cheers Buddy.
My pleasure! It is so nice to be around other folks who also know what is going on and have great contributions! It's a breath of fresh air, so thank you!
 
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