Planet X May Actually Be a Rogue Star

Planet X or Nine or 9 is:

  • A giant planet

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • A cluster of asteroids

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • A myth

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • A rogue star

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • All of the above

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 2 33.3%

  • Total voters
    6

nivek

As Above So Below
Planet X May Actually Be a Rogue Star

Planet X or Nine or 9 is:
a) a giant planet
b) a cluster of asteroids
c) a myth
d) none of the above
e) all of the above


If you said “none of the above,” Germany’s Max Planck Institute of Radio Astronomy thanks you for your support. This week it issued a paper supporting the idea that a violent restructuring of our solar system some time soon after its formation may have been caused by something completely different.

“The study presented shows that a close fly-by of a neighbouring star can simultaneously lead to the observed lower mass density outside [the solar system] and excite trans Neptune objects onto eccentric, inclined orbits.”

New Scientist announced the study with an interview of Max Planck astronomer Susanne Pfalzner. She led a team investigating the strange orbits of trans-Neptunian objects, particularly the dwarf planet Sedna, one of the most distant object to orbit our Sun, completing the huge oblong loop once every 11,400 Earth years. Sedna is the largest of at least 20 trans-Neptunian objects with these long, misshapen orbits that have puzzled astronomers since their discovery. Adding to the confusion is the Kuiper Belt, a region also beyond Neptune made of tiny, icy comets, asteroids and other small bodies.

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Artist’s conception of Sedna

With no visible cause of this trans-Neptunian chaos, astronomers turn to models to speculate on possible causes. That – not the warnings of Planet X or Nibiru doomsday predictors – is how the idea of a large ten-times-the-mass-of-Earth Planet 9 developed in 2015. Besides the fact that it doesn’t explain everything, including how a planet that big could travel so far away from the Sun that we can’t find it, prompted Pfalzner’s team to try modeling a close encounter with a rogue star.

The simulations showed a one-in-four chance of a rogue star passing close by during a billion year period early in the life of the solar system. And by “close, they mean really close – 80 to 100 astronomical units (80 to 100 times the distance between Earth and the Sun). Sedna, the result of this possible brush-by, is 86 AU away from the Sun at its closest point. A star that close to the Sun would “excite” any and all things nearby, pulling tiny objects into the Kuiper Belt and knocking larger ones like Sedna into strange orbits.

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Orbits of Sedna, other objects and a possible orbit of Planet X

Then there’s Planet 9. Pfalzner’s models do not refute the existence of Planet 9 but they change its size. The simulations worked best when Planet 9 was the size of the Earth. That would allow it to be in a long oblong orbit and keep it small enough that it’s still a needle in the galactic haystack to detect.

So, does the probability of a rogue star stirring up the solar system also answer the question of what is Planet X? Of course not. It doesn’t even answer the question of what to call it. Instead, it keeps the mystery planet in play, albeit a fraction of its former size.

Should we now call it Planet 1/X?

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Wade

Stare..... They are always staring
How about

H. A topic to get you your 2 hours with George Noory 5-6 times a year some 5 years after the fact.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
How about

H. A topic to get you your 2 hours with George Noory 5-6 times a year some 5 years after the fact.

Huh? That went over my head lol...

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The shadow

The shadow knows!
Planet X May Actually Be a Rogue Star

Planet X or Nine or 9 is:
a) a giant planet
b) a cluster of asteroids
c) a myth
d) none of the above
e) all of the above


If you said “none of the above,” Germany’s Max Planck Institute of Radio Astronomy thanks you for your support. This week it issued a paper supporting the idea that a violent restructuring of our solar system some time soon after its formation may have been caused by something completely different.

“The study presented shows that a close fly-by of a neighbouring star can simultaneously lead to the observed lower mass density outside [the solar system] and excite trans Neptune objects onto eccentric, inclined orbits.”

New Scientist announced the study with an interview of Max Planck astronomer Susanne Pfalzner. She led a team investigating the strange orbits of trans-Neptunian objects, particularly the dwarf planet Sedna, one of the most distant object to orbit our Sun, completing the huge oblong loop once every 11,400 Earth years. Sedna is the largest of at least 20 trans-Neptunian objects with these long, misshapen orbits that have puzzled astronomers since their discovery. Adding to the confusion is the Kuiper Belt, a region also beyond Neptune made of tiny, icy comets, asteroids and other small bodies.

sedna-570x428.jpg

Artist’s conception of Sedna

With no visible cause of this trans-Neptunian chaos, astronomers turn to models to speculate on possible causes. That – not the warnings of Planet X or Nibiru doomsday predictors – is how the idea of a large ten-times-the-mass-of-Earth Planet 9 developed in 2015. Besides the fact that it doesn’t explain everything, including how a planet that big could travel so far away from the Sun that we can’t find it, prompted Pfalzner’s team to try modeling a close encounter with a rogue star.

The simulations showed a one-in-four chance of a rogue star passing close by during a billion year period early in the life of the solar system. And by “close, they mean really close – 80 to 100 astronomical units (80 to 100 times the distance between Earth and the Sun). Sedna, the result of this possible brush-by, is 86 AU away from the Sun at its closest point. A star that close to the Sun would “excite” any and all things nearby, pulling tiny objects into the Kuiper Belt and knocking larger ones like Sedna into strange orbits.

Planet_Nine_-_black_background-570x380.png

Orbits of Sedna, other objects and a possible orbit of Planet X

Then there’s Planet 9. Pfalzner’s models do not refute the existence of Planet 9 but they change its size. The simulations worked best when Planet 9 was the size of the Earth. That would allow it to be in a long oblong orbit and keep it small enough that it’s still a needle in the galactic haystack to detect.

So, does the probability of a rogue star stirring up the solar system also answer the question of what is Planet X? Of course not. It doesn’t even answer the question of what to call it. Instead, it keeps the mystery planet in play, albeit a fraction of its former size.

Should we now call it Planet 1/X?

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I have no clue about what it is,but if it is a gas giant call it nibru!
 

Standingstones

Celestial
A gas giant would be a planet consisting of helium and/or hydrogen. What is the location of this so called planet and what is it’s composition?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
A gas giant would be a planet consisting of helium and/or hydrogen. What is the location of this so called planet and what is it’s composition?

I don't think they even know a location, if memory serves there's been noticeable gravitational pulls from various objects in the outer region of the solar system...I think as far in as Neptune...I've read papers years ago on this topic which many speculate it is a dwarf star...To me that's more feasible than a rogue planet...

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Wade

Stare..... They are always staring
Huh? That went over my head lol...

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Sorry, I was pointing to the observation that you don't hear about the 2012? planet nowadays except when the well is running low on C2C and theirs no books on the horizon, so they need something to fill in the 2 or 3 hours. That's my slightly jaundiced view of it.

And I'll bet the thing is they didn't carry the 3 when they made their original calculations so an error was made and as it is it's still out there somewhere waiting til some "notable date" pops up.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Sorry, I was pointing to the observation that you don't hear about the 2012? planet nowadays except when the well is running low on C2C and theirs no books on the horizon, so they need something to fill in the 2 or 3 hours. That's my slightly jaundiced view of it.

And I'll bet the thing is they didn't carry the 3 when they made their original calculations so an error was made and as it is it's still out there somewhere waiting til some "notable date" pops up.

Oh yeah, on Alien-UFOs forum back in 2010 thru 2012 there were new threads every day all about the 2012 Nibiru end times armageddon yada yada lol...Then after those years passed the planet x stuff went silent, now lately the past 8 months I see various articles about it again...

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