The Halo Drive

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  1. nivek

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    This is something I've only recently heard about and only begun reading, on the surface it seems to me it would be a limited type of propulsion given the type of conditions necessary to use this kind of technology, what do you think?...

    The Halo Drive: Fuel-Free Relativistic Propulsion of Large Masses via Recycled Boomerang Photons

    Intelligent alien races could travel through interstellar space unseen by firing LASERS into orbiting black hole pairs to create high-speed 'halo drive' propulsion system, study claims

    One Ivy League Astronomer says humans could achieve fuel-free interstellar travel by harvesting energy from binary black holes in a brand new method dubbed the 'Halo Drive.'

    Theoretically, said David Kipping, an astronomer at Columbia University, aliens could already be using that technology without our knowledge.

    The Halo Drive method of propelling a spacecraft would work by utilizing 'gravitational mirrors' – a region of a black holes that swallows up matter and shoots it back out in exactly the same direction – to absorb the holes' energy.


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    The Halo Drive theory uses black hole energy to propel space crafts beyond the speed of light. Artist's impression of a black hole is pictured

    'The search for intelligence amongst the cosmos is often guided by considering the possible activities of hypothetical advanced civilizations and the associated technosignatures that would result,' said Kipping in a study published in the journal AirXiv.

    'Along these lines, this work has considered how an advanced civilization might utilize the light sailing concept to conduct relativistic and extremely efficient propulsion.'

    Scientists have observed that when photons enter a gravitational mirror and are subsequently shot back out, they not only gain velocity from their journey, they also retain some of the kinetic energy from the visit.

    Kipping says using those returned photons, which are called 'boomerang photons,' interstellar travelers could theoretically use the harvested energy to travel at a velocity 133 percent greater than the black hole.

    This method of harvesting energy from black holes would not only avoid having to tread dangerously close to the gravitational void – astronauts have tapped black holes as a type of slingshot to help propel objects into space for ages – they would also be extremely hard to detect.

    'A civilization could exploit black holes as galactic way points but would be difficult to detect remotely, except for an elevated binary merger rate and excess binary eccentricity,' said Kipping.

    As a result, Kipping said, a civilization that has the means to travel close enough to a black hole could theoretically be deploying this type of method of interstellar transit without our knowledge.

    Another major benefit of the Halo Drive over other proposed forms of interstellar travel, posits Kipping, would be shedding the need for a massive fuel source.

    While other theoretical forms of travel require a spacecraft to accelerate to what is called 'relativistic speed' – a speed comparable to the speed of light – the Halo Drive would subvert the need for any prior energy other than the light harvested from a black hole.

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    After carefully reading that, I suppose such a concept is possible, My thing is, In class, they told me flat out When you hear the words free fule... You have your answer right there. " Denoting that Truly free energy is impossible"

    That being said, I'm a guy who fully believes a Dyson sphere is completely possible, honestly, If we could harness the full maximum output of a star, You can't convince me we couldn't use its photons to propel something to light speed for free, IT just seems completely possible to me.

    While The Vast amount of energy is "Free" The problem is, It will cost us something to get to that point, And to maintain a halo drive wouldn't make it "Free Energy" That's my only issue here. Free energy is physically impossible, And therefore, It's just a gripe on the terminology used there, The theory seems pretty solid actually. I just wouldn't want to call it "Free"
     
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    That seems like conditioning students. By doing that there's less of a chance the energy providers will have problems with them in the future.
     
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    Colleges are all about conditioning brother. It's honestly the atmosphere of the thing, in really every case :Whistle:


    At least at Tennessee Tech, it was, Come to think of it, Other places may have had different methods, But We had one Teacher there she was strongly feminist, and would actually teach how men are inferior to women, Siting our shorter life spans and limited emotional range, the whole nine, College was a crazy time in Tennesee brother.
     
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    That means the Indoctrination protocol continues into college. Do you know of anyone that was extremely brilliant that completely fell of radar as if snatched-up by an organization or the SSP?
     
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    Yeah, His name was Sam Carter, He was a friend of mine, And one day he just wansn't around anymore and it didn't make sense, He was the smartest guy there, It's not like he dropped out, I always wondered about him honestly.
     
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    If he just moved there would have been some kind of notice to his friends. From what I've heard people that would do a 20 & back were told to fill-out a series of post cards with the purpose of not drawing suspicion.
     
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    There was no notice, I mean, it happened out of really nowhere just he suddenly wasn't around anymore, I never saw the guy again. I mean, You would think if he was gonna move like the next day he wouldn't have come the day before, I've considered lots of things, Tennesee tech is a huge place, I've considered maybe he got in some sort of accident and somehow we never heard the story? I mean, no one ever really spoke about it to any great length after the fact.

    I Really Don't know, But, I do know the guy was pretty smart, If people were being recruited into special programs, It wouldn't shock me a great deal to discover that's what happened to him though.
     
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  9. Toroid

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    In the Wingmakers interviews they described the head of the ACIO being recruited. Supposedly while in college he dreamed of building a computer so powerful it could time travel. That must have flagged the PTB. I think there's a group or even species that plant these thoughts into select people to stack the deck. He was later identified as being AR Bordon. While with the ACIO he was only known by his security level 15.

    I found something interesting in the book 'The Art of War' written some 2,500 years ago. It described a leader who was going to battle with another group. He told his men to pack 10,000 sandbags before leaving. They used them to dam a river. When the enemy leadership crossed to his side they broke the dam cutting them off from their troops then they were slaughtered. This brilliant maneuver threw the enemy forces into disarray and the battle was over. That idea probably came from an external source as if by a group that plays us like Sims.
     
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    I found this interesting video series about Frame dragging, It's one of Einstines Lesser known ideas concerning time travel, It's an interesting watch. It shows how an object can break the light speed barrier without violating the laws of physics.



    I've read the art of war, It's an amazingly clever masterwork, I would almost consider it required reading honestly :)

    In fact, For anyone to check out

    https://sites.ualberta.ca/~enoch/Readings/The_Art_Of_War.pdf
     
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  11. Toroid

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    The SSP whistleblower Tony Rodriquez described how they would use an anti-phone to call back in time if they went on a mission that failed. They would simply tell themselves not to leave.

    Here's a Star Trek: TNG episode with a similar concept.
    Cause and Effect (Star Trek: The Next Generation) - Wikipedia

    The black hole in post #3 is traveling at half the speed of light.
    Black Holes
     
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