The Mysterious Lindsey Lights

[Todd Feinman]

I have ordered this book through interlibrary loan. Looks very interesting:

Amazon.com

 

[Todd Feinman]

I just ran across this interview with the author. Going to listen to it now:
Her interview is at 29.30:


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmi48R0VLb8

 

[Todd Feinman]

She's seen the same (type of) objects that I saw in 2010 and others have seen too.
I'll try to contact her; we each have pieces of the puzzle, and she should know what happened to me and the circumstances around it.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Tried Spokeo, they don't have her number! She is on Facebook, but the only kind of Facebook I condone involves anthropodermic bibliopegy. Tried to contact Alejandro Rojas who interviewed her; his online form is broken. Aargh. Found her physical address, though; maybe snail mail...

 

[Todd Feinman]

I installed Facebook Messenger and sent her a message! Hopefully she will be interested in a Zoom meeting.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Well she is not getting in touch. I have her book requested through interlibrary loan. Definitely the same objects. Oh well. I've had enough of trying to communicate with people about this stuff for a while!

 

[Todd Feinman]

Randall, they also saw something very similar to your experience:

View: https://youtu.be/vCmPKXOMBkI?t=744

 

[Todd Feinman]

Book has arrived today. Looks very interesting. Glad I could get it, as it is out of print.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Read the book. definitely the same objects I saw the first time. And Leroy Chiao saw, and others in the past too. Definitely under intelligent control. No way they are from here.

 

[J Randall Murphy]

Read the book. definitely the same objects I saw the first time. And Leroy Chiao saw, and others in the past too. Definitely under intelligent control. No way they are from here.

Unfortunately - those sightings started in 2004, well after it became plausible for human technology to replicate the visual effect of such objects — so unless the witnesses actually went up and confirmed that the objects were solid craft and not some sort of visual effect, there is insufficient evidence to conclude that there's "no way they are from here".

That doesn't mean that they weren't alien craft of some kind — just that if we want to be really honest, after the mid 1980s ( post Strategic Defense Initiative ) — there's no way short of a mother ship tour that anyone can be sure that the objects we are assuming are alien craft aren't some kind of human tech.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Unfortunately - those sightings started in 2004, well after it became plausible for human technology to replicate the visual effect of such objects — so unless the witnesses actually went up and confirmed that the objects were solid craft and not some sort of visual effect, there is insufficient evidence to conclude that there's "no way they are from here".

That doesn't mean that they weren't alien craft of some kind — just that if we want to be really honest, after the mid 1980s ( post Strategic Defense Initiative ) — there's no way short of a mother ship tour that anyone can be sure that the objects we are assuming are alien craft aren't some kind of human tech.

Her descriptions and the different formations; consisting mainly of lonely road encounters are exactly like some that are described in that article archive from decades ago, and are identical to mine, too; appearing in the same way in nearly identical formations, so I think they are all the same phenomenon. In my case, the attendant circumstances dispel any doubt in my mind that what I saw was not something manufactured by humans. I also don't see what the point of shocking civilians with these kinds of encounters for decades would be, if this was some kind of human tech appearing fully formed decades ago. In my case my first sighting is absolutely connected to the Trent photos; thus I am convinced that it is the same intelligence behind the McMinnville object and the objects myself and others have seen. In Leroy Chiao's case he saw them fly by him in space, and later changed his story to fishing vessels. I suspect the objects that we have seen are some sort of persistent nanotechnology used for surveillance and also as a form of contact, but I have no way to prove these things.
Her sightings occurred at around the same time Leroy Chiao saw the objects from the ISS.

...But, no one cares. Just the folks who have seen them for whatever reason. People want a big government announcement or some high-ranking military individual to tell them that UFOs are real, etc. etc. so on and on it goes.

 

[J Randall Murphy]

Her descriptions and the different formations; consisting mainly of lonely road encounters are exactly like some that are described in that article archive from decades ago, and are identical to mine, too; appearing in the same way in nearly identical formations, so I think they are all the same phenomenon. In my case, the attendant circumstances dispel any doubt in my mind that what I saw was not something manufactured by humans. I also don't see what the point of shocking civilians with these kinds of encounters for decades would be, if this was some kind of human tech appearing fully formed decades ago. In my case my first sighting is absolutely connected to the Trent photos; thus I am convinced that it is the same intelligence behind the McMinnville object and the objects myself and others have seen. In Leroy Chiao's case he saw them fly by him in space, and later changed his story to fishing vessels. I suspect the objects that we have seen are some sort of persistent nanotechnology used for surveillance and also as a form of contact, but I have no way to prove these things.
Her sightings occurred at around the same time Leroy Chiao saw the objects from the ISS.

...But, no one cares. Just the folks who have seen them for whatever reason. People want a big government announcement or some high-ranking military individual to tell them that UFOs are real, etc. etc. so on and on it goes.

That all makes perfect sense. I'm just working from a baseline — would it have been possible or not? If the answer is "Yes", then what's more likely — aliens from light years away spooking rural humanoids, or some kind of terrestrial tech being tested where there are very few witnesses?

Additionally, because I believe alien visitation is a reality, I tend to give firsthand experiencers more credit than their detractors. Given that I'm aware of my own bias, this baseline is my way of ensuring that I'm being intellectually honest. I hope you can appreciate that. I'm certainly not denying your experience or claiming that I know what it was !

 

[Todd Feinman]

Well, I don't know how it could have been terrestrial tech! I don't see why or especially how it could be done with human tech, especially given the odd synchronicities around it. And Leroy Chiao saw them in space, and a police officer and ex-Air Force pilot saw them, and others too. I actually think it is one of the more revealing and corroborated bunch of events in UFO history! Our accounts are almost identical, down to the quality of the light from the objects. The objects were not satellites or planes, etc. Perfectly stationary at first, in our atmosphere.
They were also seen in '58 (iirc) in NV. no drone tech or anything to produce them then, either. The MOD section responsible for studying UFOs released sketches of encohntered objects a few years back. One of them was"rows of maneuvering lights" their drawing was of the objects we have seen. Honestly, I was talking to a friend just yesterday about the possibility that UFOs are far stranger than nuts and bolts objects. --perhaps supernatural (whatever the hell that means, chicken or egg with UFOs), based on the strange circumstances around my first sighting.

You could actually remove my sighting from the group of corroborating sightings, and they would still hold up just fine and merit writing a book about. My piece if the puzzle is the connection with the Trent photos, and the timing and circumstances.

 

[Todd Feinman]

The Nevada sighting of the objects we have seen is included in Richard Hall's The UFO Evidence, prepared for NICAP, with a drawing, too. The drawing in the book can be seen in the thread about my sighting, here

View: https://www.amazon.com/UFO-Evidence-Richard-Hall/dp/0760706271#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div

 

[J Randall Murphy]

Well, I don't know how it could have been terrestrial tech! I don't see why or especially how it could be done with human tech, especially given the odd synchronicities around it. And Leroy Chiao saw them in space, and a police officer and ex-Air Force pilot saw them, and others too. I actually think it is one of the more revealing and corroborated bunch of events in UFO history! Our accounts are almost identical, down to the quality of the light from the objects. The objects were not satellites or planes, etc. Perfectly stationary at first, in our atmosphere.
They were also seen in '58 (iirc) in NV. no drone tech or anything to produce them then, either. The MOD section responsible for studying UFOs released sketches of encohntered objects a few years back. One of them was"rows of maneuvering lights" their drawing was of the objects we have seen. Honestly, I was talking to a friend just yesterday about the possibility that UFOs are far stranger than nuts and bolts objects. --perhaps supernatural (whatever the hell that means, chicken or egg with UFOs), based on the strange circumstances around my first sighting.

You could actually remove my sighting from the group of corroborating sightings, and they would still hold up just fine and merit writing a book about. My piece if the puzzle is the connection with the Trent photos, and the timing and circumstances.

I'll grant that when I say "possible" — I mean "theoretically possible", and when I say "tech" I don't necessarily mean "craft" — as in some sort of mechanical transport vehicle. Below, you'll see photos of what Bennewitz saw back in the 80s, which look very much like the glowing plasmas created by particle beam experiments that were underway for Regan's "Star Wars" project. Greg Bishop suggested that the Starfire Optical Range may have been involved.



So if we make the assumption that they were working on it 40 years ago — and we don't really know their full capabilities, is it all that far out to suggest that their capability was further ahead than we know, and that they never stopped developing it — to the point where such phenomena could be created fairly easily from mobile and/or space based emitters ?

 

[Todd Feinman]

I'll grant that when I say "possible" — I mean "theoretically possible", and when I say "tech" I don't necessarily mean "craft" — as in some sort of mechanical transport vehicle. Below, you'll see photos of what Bennewitz saw back in the 80s, which look very much like the glowing plasmas created by particle beam experiments that were underway for Regan's "Star Wars" project. Greg Bishop suggested that the Starfire Optical Range may have been involved.

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So if we make the assumption that they were working on it 40 years ago — and we don't really know their full capabilities, is it all that far out to suggest that their capability was further ahead than we know, and that they never stopped developing it — to the point where such phenomena could be created fairly easily from mobile and/or space based emitters ?

I've heard of the work with plasmas, but I don't think that is what we've seen.

 

[J Randall Murphy]

I've heard of the work with plasmas, but I don't think that is what we've seen.

Well — I wasn't there ( of course ), but if the sighting was limited to "lights" and not some sort of clearly defined craft, then how do you know? Also, the technology isn't limited to plasma alone. 3D Visuals can be created too. I remember seeing Triumph on their Blinding Light Show tour. You had to actually be there to appreciate it because I haven't seen any videos that show what they could do, but by synchronizing lasers bounced off rotating mirrors, they were able to create pulses of light that you could watch travel out from stage in discreet shapes — that was in the late 1970s.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Such an explanation could be used to describe any UFO sighting then, I suppose. Including disks, triangles etc. in more modern times. But the military and government were clearly surprised by UFOs in the past, and wanted to get their hands on one, so the whole phenomenon isn't some plasma or holographic technology. Then you have to explain what benefit there is in harassing civilians with such a technology. And if it were so.e kind of psyop, what would the purpose be? Then you have very similar reports of lights flying in formation and other objects too, going back to '47 and even the late 19th Century. It would be pretty amazing if agents equipped with this tech (which was identical way back decades ago, flying in the same formation, etc.), to make them appear for little old me at the time and place and the other circumstances too. Amazing work!
Do you think the disk craft are secret US weapons develooed from Nazi tech?