Discussion in 'UFOs & Sightings' started by nivek, Feb 9, 2019.
All this build up only to have their hearts broke for the 1 millionth time.
Mick West and his rebuttal/response to that interview...
Mick still thinks they saw a canopy reflection, or a seagull or a balloon? And that Chad filmed a common plane? Hes great at nitpicking things, but is he trying to kill this case with a thousand cuts? Cause if so hes still way off that goal.
Given all the eye witnesses, radar and everything else, his explanation still clings on that either everyone suffered some sort of a moment of extreme incompetence and hallucination at the same time as all the radars glitched, or that the whole thing is some sort of conspiracy and everyone involved is in on it.
Seeing as it's 2020 and all, I half expect to see Jerry Springer emceeing the next round, as the hair pulling and the biting starts.
Mama Mia, what a shitshow.
Are they are still asking for $$? I'd Google it up but today is the day I change all my socks from folds to balls so I have to prioritize my time here. My guess is "probably yes". That and the moving goal post of 'success around the next corner, hang in there' sounds awfully familiar.
He's just doing what 99.9% of people do in this pseudoscience field of absolute bullshit! He's putting up bullshit because he knows 99.9% of the UFOnuts are going to swallow it hook line and sinker!
Oh don't tell me Delonge's lost that loving feeling.....
Ive been going through with the Nimitz event again, and i have to say there are some problems with the overall story.
- Fravor says there were no men collecting the tapes, other witnesses say there were.
- Fravor also claims theres no longer video, other witnesses claim there is, including Chad.
- Chad Underwood says the Tic Tac quickly accelerated to the left and was gone and moved erratically, videoclip doesnt really show any of it. Ive seen some other people going through with his claims in the Corbell interview, and they dont seem to match what the videoclip shows.
Im not doubting David and the other pilots for what they claimed they saw, for now at least, but Im starting to wonder did Chad really film what he was sent after, or did he make a bunch of mistakes while chasing whatever is in the video? Or maybe Chad is just misremembering a lot of details, has he watched the video he took lately? These inconsistencies in the overall event bother me.
On top of that we have Kevin Day, who made some weird wooish claims afterwards, kinda like Penniston of Rendelsham.
Kevin Day details TIC TAC UAP experience, aftermath that influences him still — punk rock and UFOs
I fear this is turning into another Redlesham Forest like thing, intresting, but so convoluted that soon you cant tell what the hell actually happened.
Worst thing of all is that the US government might possess the crucial data that could help solve all of this, but ill doubt well ever see it in open so it could be verified. It sucks.
One of the latest speculations about the US Navy UFO episodes is that the UAPs were US Air Force tech that the Navy wasn't informed about. This idea comes up in the most recent Coast to Coast AM interview with John Greenewald.
Perhaps, but then its observables and capabilities would have maybe been grossly exaggerated or mistaken. Given what the witnesses and AATIP claim the Tic Tac was capable off, if that is even closely accurate, im not believing someone on Earth came up with such a huge tech leap in a vacuum and secret, unless if its some sort of reverse engineering attempt prototype based of an actual crashed ET ship, like some have claimed.
Decent new write-up for Delonge however he is not a UFO expert, far from it...
'People need to open their minds!' – Tom DeLonge on his new career as a UFO expert
The ex-Blink-182 singer now has his own UFO show. He talks about spooked moon-walkers, a mysterious 1940s crash – and what Donald Trump and Boris Johnson dare not reveal.
Seconds before my interview with Tom DeLonge is due to begin, I’m told: “Don’t mention aliens.” This seems odd, because the former Blink-182 frontman produces and occasionally appears on Unidentified: Inside America’s UFO Investigation, currently showing on Sky. But aliens and UAPs – the term is unidentified aerial phenomenon these days, despite the show’s title – don’t necessarily go hand or jelly-like tentacle in hand.
DeLonge, you see, is extremely keen to keep himself credible. “People need to buckle up,” he says, “open their minds and stop talking about, you know, aliens and extraterrestrials, because I have a feeling that that’s not exactly what it is.” Aliens! I clock the not-mentioning-aliens score at 1-0 to me.
DeLonge’s journey from cheeky skate-rock frontman to UFO/UAP expert perhaps needs some explanation. Firstly, this isn’t just some fad. “I got deeply involved when I was starting seventh grade,” he says. “Then, after Blink signed to a major label, I used my first cheque to buy a computer specifically to get deeper into researching the subject. It’s really all I’ve ever done outside of music and building a family.”
Unexplained reveals the findings of the Pentagon’s top secret $22m UFO Task Force, which investigated the threat of UAPS around the globe. With DeLonge’s help, military footage of these incidents has now been released into the public domain. While the visual evidence is restricted to grainy radar footage, the scary part is that the pilots, military officials and other eye-witnesses interviewed in Unexplained all give the same story: that of multiple sightings of giant white Tic-Tac-shaped craft moving at speeds and trajectories that seem impossible to man.
Blink-182 formed when DeLonge was introduced to bassist Mark Hoppus at San Diego high school in 1992. Drummer Travis Barker followed after learning a 20-song set list in just 45 minutes, before a show in 1998 when the previous drummer was too drunk to go on. “I remember touring in the van and I’d be reading these books full of government documents and witness accounts,” says DeLonge. “We’re talking pilots, officers – all highly credible individuals that were trained at nuclear missile facilities. I mean, astronauts that walked on the moon were having encounters, you know?” Er, do we?
Blink-182 released six albums before DeLonge quit in 2015, to be replaced with Alkaline Trio vocalist/guitarist Matt Skiba. DeLonge formed aerospace-science-entertainment company To the Stars, with which he promised to probe deeper into the government cover-up of UAPs. Which poses the question: did people think he’d gone completely hatstand?
“People were tripping on me for sure,” he says. “If an actor had done what I’ve done, it’d be less weird, because you don’t really know who actors are. That’s kind of their game plan. But with musicians, you want to dress like them, or listen to other bands like them. Rock’n’roll has a tradition of being genuine and authentic.”
DeLonge comes across as 99% enthusiast/expert and 1% eccentric. He can’t answer some of my questions (“What’s the most convincing piece of evidence you’ve seen as to the existence of aliens?”) due to “national security issues”. But he clearly knows something, or thinks he knows something. But what level of government cover-up are we talking about? Are aliens (2-1 to him by now) really living among us like in Men in Black?
“No, not at all,” says DeLonge. “It’s not conspiratorial. Anybody can go on to the CIA website and read thousands of reports. There’s just a vacuum of conversation. Our government has had decades of the very difficult burden of dealing with something that is extremely advanced but poorly understood. They need time to dig into this, to understand it, to gather data and analyse it.”
Such as? “We have physical material from something that crashed purportedly in the late 40s, and we can prove this thing was engineered. This thing is extremely advanced, down to a nano level, and is of interest to the national labs, the US government and the US army.
“Then there’s the Nimitz case, where hundreds of craft came in at 80,000 feet, lowered to sea level and were intercepted by top gun pilots and captured by the US navy using the most advanced radar system in the world. I mean, it doesn’t get better than that, other than something landing on the White House lawn. But if you go back to the cover of the Washington Post in 1952, there are these things all over the White House.” This refers to mysterious lights in the night sky over the US capital lasting several days. “What were they? And that’s on the cover of the biggest newspaper of the time.”
There were rumours – on the internet, admittedly – that Barack Obama, on exiting office, was going to reveal something definitive about the existence of aliens. Is DeLonge in the know? “I can’t say much,” he says. “But I do know there have been moments when certain presidents have come close. The issue always becomes: how are people going to digest this if we hit them over the head with a giant sledgehammer? That’s scary for people in the Pentagon when they’re trying to keep civilisation duct-taped together.”
So does Trump know something we all don’t? “I don’t know what he knows, but I do know that we helped set up briefings for the White House.” How about Boris Johnson? “I don’t have experience with the British government personally, but I do know it is absolutely involved.”
Shaun Ryder on UFOs, another Sky show that aired in 2013, saw the Happy Mondays frontman visiting the likes of Donald and Deirdre from Bolton, who claimed to have been abducted by UFOs. Should Ryder be taken seriously? “Absolutely. But when people think of abductions, that might not be what it is. Abductions have been around since the dawn of time. Cave drawings show the exact same entities that people see in so-called abductions. People who use psychedelic drugs to help with post-traumatic stress syndrome, depression and anxiety all see these same beings, these same entities. People say these abductions take place in their sleep. I think people are going to find out that this has a lot to do with consciousness and it’s not just coming from another planet. There’s a lot more to the universe.”
So if national security wasn’t an issue, could DeLonge tell me stuff that would make my hair stand on end? “Yes. I thought I knew most of the unnerving parts, then I was briefed on something and I didn’t sleep for three nights. I think what’s going to come is a greater understanding of who we are and where we need to go. And that excites me, because I do believe something beautiful can come from something so unnerving.”
So aliens are real? (He wins 3-1.) “Things were written in text thousands of years ago, like hearing voices in your head, a burning bush that was talking. The ancient texts may have called it God, but I’m just saying it’s not that simple. The star of Bethlehem – was that a star or a craft? Because a star is really big. It wouldn’t be hovering over a manger.”
Perhaps its exactly what the government wants, events like this to get so distorted that facts from fiction can no longer be sorted, keeps the accountability away from them and keeps their precious secrets hidden...
Dude is his own worst enemy.
: pcard/ryker double face palm:
Some people including Tom delonge thinks that we're in a pivotal time. A new age full of magic & wonder. Maybe that's why Disclosure is happening. Ryan Bledsoe said we're going to enter the age of Consciousness & Energy.
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