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Travis Walton “UFO abduction” was a hoax, admits crew boss – hoax admission recorded on April 30, 2021
...hear the telephone admission of hoax – – video, courtesy of Orion Adventures:
Background to this call:
Ryan Gordon had been in talks with Mike Rogers and Travis Walton beginning in June 2020. Ryan was driving when Mike called him out of the blue. This was not uncommon for Mike to do.
When Mike started to tell Ryan that the event was hoaxed, Ryan pulled his truck over and put his phone on speaker and recorded the call with his Apple Watch pursuant to Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 13-3001. The date of the call is April 30, 2021.
UFO Hoax Confession by Mike Rogers.
Partial transcript:
“All I can remember….like…is that…uhh….we were…we were talking in the woods one day….Travis and I….and uhh…..I….I remember…..leaving a chainsaw on a stump…..okay….he had a saw but he took his with him…because we were talking about creating….uhh…uhh….a UFO hoax….okay?”
“I remember that uhh…..uhh….when I drove….when I was driving the truck and he jumped out….it was….it was all deliberate….it was all uhh….staged thing….okay?”
“And he ran up there and uhh….and there was something….there was something about the UFO uhh….not being real…..although it looked real….”
Ryan Gordon:
What you’re saying is…uhh…you and Travis..together…hoaxed this?
Mike Rogers:
“Yeah….I mean Travis’ brother Duane helped him.”
“Phillip Klass uhh…….actually suspected that uhh…..uhh Duane was…..was part of it.”
“I mean, he was his protector and uhh…..he was saying weird things on that Fred Sylvanus interview – – ‘I have nothing. I don’t fear for at all for his life. I know where he’s at’..blah blah….you know?”
“And I thought all along that he was just trying to….uhh….how would you say it?….make himself belief that his brother was okay…”
On March 19, 2021, Mike Rogers posted the following to his personal Facebook page:
Mike Rogers says he is “no longer to be considered a witness to Travis Walton’s supposed UFO abduction”
P.S.
ON LIE DETECTOR TESTS:
Comment from Orion Adventures:
“The reason why the crew all passed the lie detector test was because the question on the lie detector was not about UFOs. Here is a good comment from Orion: “This was a question I had asked, well UNTIL I looked at what the polygraph consisted of. The questions they were asked had to do with a missing person and/or murder investigation – NOT a UFO abduction. We must remember that law enforcement is not in the business of conducting polygraphs to prove or disprove UFO abductions. Of course they passed the polygraph – they didn’t kill Travis nor did they have anything to do with his disappearance.”
P.S.
Comment from Victor Coleiro:
“I interviewed Mike around that time (March of 2021). He had been posting on Facebook that Travis was a UFO Hoaxer.
The interview was basically Mike complaining that Travis had owed him money and that Travis did not tell him of another movie he was lining up.
But they came to terms and they were all good again.”
.
...hear the telephone admission of hoax – – video, courtesy of Orion Adventures:
Background to this call:
Ryan Gordon had been in talks with Mike Rogers and Travis Walton beginning in June 2020. Ryan was driving when Mike called him out of the blue. This was not uncommon for Mike to do.
When Mike started to tell Ryan that the event was hoaxed, Ryan pulled his truck over and put his phone on speaker and recorded the call with his Apple Watch pursuant to Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 13-3001. The date of the call is April 30, 2021.
UFO Hoax Confession by Mike Rogers.
Partial transcript:
“All I can remember….like…is that…uhh….we were…we were talking in the woods one day….Travis and I….and uhh…..I….I remember…..leaving a chainsaw on a stump…..okay….he had a saw but he took his with him…because we were talking about creating….uhh…uhh….a UFO hoax….okay?”
“I remember that uhh…..uhh….when I drove….when I was driving the truck and he jumped out….it was….it was all deliberate….it was all uhh….staged thing….okay?”
“And he ran up there and uhh….and there was something….there was something about the UFO uhh….not being real…..although it looked real….”
Ryan Gordon:
What you’re saying is…uhh…you and Travis..together…hoaxed this?
Mike Rogers:
“Yeah….I mean Travis’ brother Duane helped him.”
“Phillip Klass uhh…….actually suspected that uhh…..uhh Duane was…..was part of it.”
“I mean, he was his protector and uhh…..he was saying weird things on that Fred Sylvanus interview – – ‘I have nothing. I don’t fear for at all for his life. I know where he’s at’..blah blah….you know?”
“And I thought all along that he was just trying to….uhh….how would you say it?….make himself belief that his brother was okay…”
On March 19, 2021, Mike Rogers posted the following to his personal Facebook page:
Mike Rogers says he is “no longer to be considered a witness to Travis Walton’s supposed UFO abduction”
P.S.
ON LIE DETECTOR TESTS:
Comment from Orion Adventures:
“The reason why the crew all passed the lie detector test was because the question on the lie detector was not about UFOs. Here is a good comment from Orion: “This was a question I had asked, well UNTIL I looked at what the polygraph consisted of. The questions they were asked had to do with a missing person and/or murder investigation – NOT a UFO abduction. We must remember that law enforcement is not in the business of conducting polygraphs to prove or disprove UFO abductions. Of course they passed the polygraph – they didn’t kill Travis nor did they have anything to do with his disappearance.”
P.S.
Comment from Victor Coleiro:
“I interviewed Mike around that time (March of 2021). He had been posting on Facebook that Travis was a UFO Hoaxer.
The interview was basically Mike complaining that Travis had owed him money and that Travis did not tell him of another movie he was lining up.
But they came to terms and they were all good again.”
.