Unexplained

[Ida G]

I have some trouble with a case I can"t seem to understand.
Before someone die I go in to this horrible portal of red neonlight and sometimes someone (spirit?) tells me someone is going to die.
some weeks ago I began worried and got the same message and i prayed " let noone die" and the mysteriousvoice told me it was someone i loved very much.
At kundalini Yoga I was sad and told them about the warning, but nothing seemed to happen. and I hoped " yes. The prayer is working- no one i Love died "
Then last evening a lady told me " The horse died some weeks ago. Problems with the stomach. "
I used to ride that horse when I had suicide problems and skipped schools and study for healing instead.

what is happening? Is there spirits killing those I love and then tells me? Is it a result of african voodoo?
Anyone who knows?

I cry sad! I want to be warned of happy things - like " someone you love is going to invite you out" or something like that.

 

[Shadowprophet]

I have some trouble with a case I can"t seem to understand.
Before someone die I go in to this horrible portal of red neonlight and sometimes someone (spirit?) tells me someone is going to die.
some weeks ago I began worried and got the same message and i prayed " let noone die" and the mysteriousvoice told me it was someone i loved very much.
At kundalini Yoga I was sad and told them about the warning, but nothing seemed to happen. and I hoped " yes. The prayer is working- no one i Love died "
Then last evening a lady told me " The horse died some weeks ago. Problems with the stomach. "
I used to ride that horse when I had suicide problems and skipped schools and study for healing instead.

what is happening? Is there spirits killing those I love and then tells me? Is it a result of african voodoo?
Anyone who knows?

I cry sad! I want to be warned of happy things - like " someone you love is going to invite you out" or something like that.

I have thoughts about why people are warned when death occurs, That would require that I get into Quantum entanglements, In short, Over the years, My views on Death and what it is, have altered somewhat.

people fear Death because no one really knows for certain what's on the other side. Still, Every living thing dies,
I could go into science, and maybe speak about Relativity and how All physical matter is energy, and all energy can become matter Via Fission and Fusion. I could speak about How I view Death as a Poetic beautiful thing, Because, Everything that has a beginning has an End. I could Say, Others before Us have all Went to the Beyond, And, In some poetic way, If we did not Go to that same beyond, How unfair would that be for us? For them? Because We are them. They are Us, Our Fathers, Our Mothers, Our Sisters, Our Brothers, Our children, And even if When we join them it's only in some symbolic way, There is still that poetry to death, We came into this world the same way they did, and we leave it in a similar way.

We fear Death, Only because It's something we don't understand, But, As Natural as Life is, isn't Death just as natural a thing?

With this expressed, I would like to talk about Science just for a moment, The law of energy conservation The Laws of Thermodynamics | Boundless Chemistry
I know that My science may seem cold, But Science can be a beautiful and Warm thing. The law of energy conservation states that energy can not be created from noting, Nor can it be destroyed, It can only be converted from one form to another form. This isn't a theory, This is a scientific fact.

If everything in the cosmos is energy, As E=mc2 surmises, Then We were not created, Life was not created, It was converted from another form of energy, "We came from somewhere" And when we Leave this world Or Passway, We don't just stop existing, Because that's impossible. We Return to where we came from. We are converted into another form of energy.

To me, Science proves beyond a doubt there is an afterlife, and it may not be Physical like here on Earth, But what it does prove to me is, When we miss our loved ones, When we hear their voices in our heart as we lay down to sleep at night, That's not our imaginations. That's really them, Reaching out to us, from that other place, That other form.

 

[Ida G]

To me, Science proves beyond a doubt there is an afterlife, and it may not be Physical like here on Earth, But what it does prove to me is, When we miss our loved ones, When we hear their voices in our heart as we lay down to sleep at night, That's not our imaginations. That's really them, Reaching out to us, from that other place, That other form.

Yes. One day a voice told someone was going to die soon. and i was in this red neon light. I asked who - the reply was " your favourite subliminal "
And i did not understand. Then my cousine died. He was a loved one I only could speak to through the spirit couse of private issues. subliminal is just as well an telepathic inner voice from someone we love.

I still do not know how those who tell me knows - do they know the future or create the future?

 

[Shadowprophet]

Yes. One day a voice told someone was going to die soon. and i was in this red neon light. I asked who - the reply was " your favourite subliminal "
And i did not understand. Then my cousine died. He was a loved one I only could speak to through the spirit couse of private issues. subliminal is just as well an telepathic inner voice from someone we love.

I still do not know how those who tell me knows - do they know the future or create the future?

well, I have an idea, On why some information in such ways can be delivered to us. It comes down to how Time functions. See, Time in this reality for you and me is something we experience from beginning to end. because we are stuck in these physical bodies which experience Time, The 4th-dimensional concept via our 3rd-dimensional bodies But, The 4 'th dimension of time, is really more complicated,.

Picture Time as if it were This sphere,

Those dots are points in time, See how time is a "whole" in the 4th dimension, But we in our 3-dimensional bodies only experience one point at a time. We do not experience the full dimension of time, However, A 4th-dimensional being could experience the entire sphere at once, Past present and future all as one thing.

In my opinion, These departed loved ones can experience The past present and future because they are not limited to just the third dimension, They have passed on to a higher plane of existence and thusly can see all of time, for what it truly is, If this makes any sense.

 

[Ida G]

well, I have an idea, On why some information in such ways can be delivered to us. It comes down to how Time functions. See, Time in this reality for you and me is something we experience from beginning to end. because we are stuck in these physical bodies which experience Time, The 4th-dimensional concept via our 3rd-dimensional bodies But, The 4 'th dimension of time, is really more complicated,.

Picture Time as if it were This sphere,

Those dots are points in time, See how time is a "whole" in the 4th dimension, But we in our 3-dimensional bodies only experience one point at a time. We do not experience the full dimension of time, However, A 4th-dimensional being could experience the entire sphere at once, Past present and future all as one thing.

In my opinion, These departed loved ones can experience The past present and future because they are not limited to just the third dimension, They have passed on to a higher plane of existence and thusly can see all of time, for what it truly is, If this makes any sense.

That makes sense yes.
Recommended Book - Ripples in spacetime - by Govert Schilling (and more) Time-disturbed waves too.
I have tried to find more books about, time but there are very few audio-books. I might try to find some to read instead.

Very good theory you came up with. And very symmetrical with a good order.
Waves are more unpredictable and unstable.

 

[k]

Sorry for waiting, I'm using a phone.
Sunshine, you had problems with suicide, hadn't you? Well, taking into account your psychologically complicated adolescence it's no wonder.
May be this is memory of Global Mind... Recently I have heard unrelenting "Irina! Irina! Irina!..." and intonation of this phenomenon wasn't happy. Also I was told that I took a ride on truck for asphalt on somebody's feeling and I had the sense of hoarse throat.
I'm sure that you have heard about death of horse after contact with computer. And my advice to you would be to stop practice meditation alone from books. It is not fun.

 

[Thomas R. Morrison]

what is happening? Is there spirits killing those I love and then tells me? Is it a result of african voodoo?
Anyone who knows?

I cry sad! I want to be warned of happy things - like " someone you love is going to invite you out" or something like that.

But the good things are better when they come in an unexpected way - those things are sweeter as surprises. Bad things like death, though, are possibly a tiny bit easier to brace yourself against if we see them coming beforehand. On many occasions I've known about deaths and serious acts of violence before they happened, and I've always hated the foreknowledge of those things, but maybe in some way it is better to be prepared for them psychologically. Maybe it's worse for people when it comes as a totally unexpected shock.

My theoretical physics work gives Shadowprophet's ideas here a great deal of significance - it does appear that we reside within a "block universe" where the future is as certain as the past. So it's not unreasonable to conclude that consciousness (our own, or that of others) can in some sense see the full 4D view of the block universe and report it to us.

And I don't think it's personal - death comes to all creatures, so as we get older we see more of it (too much of it imo). If it were up to me, the primary ambition of global civilization would be the conquest of death via eternal youth. Everyone pays lip service to the sanctity of life, but nobody seems to be willing to fight for it.

 

[Ida G]

On many occasions I've known about deaths and serious acts of violence before they happened, and I've always hated the foreknowledge of those things, but maybe in some way it is better to be prepared for them psychologically

Thank you. I have started to use my own created affirmations. Some is with music if i need to jog and have fun.
The bad news are also very depressing so I changed the text to good news - " I get good news now. The future is filled with miracles and wonders. ... " This could help to get more good omens and warnings to love. like suddenly You dream about an really cool event and it happens. And this positive aspect of precognition will dominate.
They still lives in another form anyway, and with this energy I can summon her with attraction. so no - not that sad anymore as I used to be.
Right now I listen to teleportation and I see the wormhole often. Could work if it works for some people

The reason I ask about other creatures or spirits warning is because of haunted places and the dog bridge (overtoun bridge of scotland ) where dogs jump out in the water and such. if this is some sort of unknown, invisible creatures at earth haunting people.

The time theory was very good

 

[Ida G]

well, I have an idea, On why some information in such ways can be delivered to us. It comes down to how Time functions. See, Time in this reality for you and me is something we experience from beginning to end. because we are stuck in these physical bodies which experience Time, The 4th-dimensional concept via our 3rd-dimensional bodies But, The 4 'th dimension of time, is really more complicated,.

Picture Time as if it were This sphere,

Those dots are points in time, See how time is a "whole" in the 4th dimension, But we in our 3-dimensional bodies only experience one point at a time. We do not experience the full dimension of time, However, A 4th-dimensional being could experience the entire sphere at once, Past present and future all as one thing.

In my opinion, These departed loved ones can experience The past present and future because they are not limited to just the third dimension, They have passed on to a higher plane of existence and thusly can see all of time, for what it truly is, If this makes any sense.

You made my brain think in new ways. I was going to listen to a book about military encounters with extraterrestrials when I found a book recommended for me. It stole my attention so I began to listen to this instead. " Lost in math. How beauty leads physics astray " by Sabine Hossenfelder. The very problem for me being psychic is the obstacle of beauty. like " hey - i have visions of someone getting murdered. i must rescue them " obstacle " are you beautiful enough to go out? are you symmetrical enough? have you taken a shower, have you brushed you teeths? ... and so on and so on. " complicated.
my gut feeling tells me this might be good for understanding time and the forth dimensions. but i am going on a first aid course now so I have not come far yet. I just think we sometimes must think beyond our own thinking.

And move away from symmetry and super-symmetry. (in a hurry - must go to the course)

 

[Kchoo]

Death is required, and new lives are required. Life reinvents itself every new birth, and death prompts the future changes. Each death is a previous version, each life is the next version. Each night we die a little, and We reassemble ourselves and we learn what works and doesn’t work until our useful experimenting is exhausted.

Then we die and rejoin the cosmos to be reborn in any number of new ways, and in that form the learning continues from a different assemblage.

Consciousness itself is a constant reconstitution until a perfect experiment is produced. We are our ancestors, they are in us... we are in them... and all is connected.

That is cosmic evolution.

 

[pigfarmer]

Dunno about the Whole Thing but when it comes to pets which we inevitably outlive there is a parallel. As hard as it is to lose one I always say that if they lived as long as we did we probably wouldn't appreciate them the same way - or even as much. It would change the nature of a cherished relationship.

I think something like that is true for us; our lives are a form of timer in which we have to Get Things Done, or not as the case may be. As for whether there is a greater significance in all that, I hope so and we'll all get to find out. I think our morality is a great motivator.

I know this is a repeat, but my personal preference for a death experience would be to fade out and then reappear on Enterprise's transporter pad with a very worried Scotty yelling into the intercom "we've got him" and Spock explaining that "cross circuiting to B" is what actually saved me.

Or maybe this - looks like fun

 

[Ida G]

As hard as it is to lose one I always say that if they lived as long as we did we probably wouldn't appreciate them the same way - or even as much. It would change the nature of a cherished relationship.

Are you sure they will let us go?

 

[nivek]

Everyone pays lip service to the sanctity of life, but nobody seems to be willing to fight for it.

There are not too many who seem willing to prepare for their death either, I do not mean something like a will or plan for the burial of their body, but psychologically...As a result there are many who fear death and go out in sadness instead of satisfaction and with no regretting the lives they led...Death should never be feared, it is an inevitable and eventual function of life, it must be an accepted reality...

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[Shadowprophet]

There are not too many who seem willing to prepare for their death either, I do not mean something like a will or plan for the burial of their body, but psychologically...As a result there are many who fear death and go out in sadness instead of satisfaction and with no regretting the lives they led...Death should never be feared, it is an inevitable and eventual function of life, it must be an accepted reality...

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There was an old saying, In fact, it's so old, I can't even recall where it came from, "A coward dies a thousand times a day, A hero dies only the once" I place a lot of stock into this old philosophy, If a person doesn't worry about something like Death, Then they only have to die the one time, But if we spend our lives dreading and fearing it, Then in a way, The entirety of living is one long slow death. In this way, What Death really means, is different for every person based on their perspective.

It may not just be something that's unknown, It may be something that's a different unique experience for everyone.

It's better to consume one's self with living rather than dying I'd think.

 

[Sheltie]

I t always amazes me how many people fear death. I get the impression most of the people in this thread, like myself, believe death is just the next step in our journey, although was have some logical apprehension.



Since there are a lot of pet owners in this conversation I thought I'd post one of my fav movie pet scenes, the one in What Dreams May Come, where Robin Williams dies and is reunited with his dog.

 

[Thomas R. Morrison]

There are not too many who seem willing to prepare for their death either, I do not mean something like a will or plan for the burial of their body, but psychologically...As a result there are many who fear death and go out in sadness instead of satisfaction and with no regretting the lives they led...Death should never be feared, it is an inevitable and eventual function of life, it must be an accepted reality...

Why draw the line at "accepting death" then? Why not also "accept infections" and refuse to take antibiotics, and "accept cancer" and refuse chemo or radiation therapy? Aren't diseases also "an inevitable and eventual function of life?" Why even bother to take care of yourself at all, if a long and healthy life is so contrary to the natural order that leads us all blithely into the dirt?

One doesn't have to fear death in order to value life. And I think it's bizarre and paradoxical that most people believe in a good diet and exercise to remain healthy and enjoy a long life...but suddenly if we start talking about actually extending our healthy lives beyond today's diets and exercises and medicines, we're crossing into heretical territory somehow.

Ultimately we're in a death-worshiping culture, not a sanctity of life culture. We pay lip service to the value of life while our armies slaughter millions of families abroad and our poor people die on the streets like dogs. I find the hypocrisy of our culture to be deeply revolting - what we say and what we do are entirely antithetical.

 

[nivek]

Why draw the line at "accepting death" then? Why not also "accept infections" and refuse to take antibiotics, and "accept cancer" and refuse chemo or radiation therapy? Aren't diseases also "an inevitable and eventual function of life?" Why even bother to take care of yourself at all, if a long and healthy life is so contrary to the natural order that leads us all blithely into the dirt?

One doesn't have to fear death in order to value life. And I think it's bizarre and paradoxical that most people believe in a good diet and exercise to remain healthy and enjoy a long life...but suddenly if we start talking about actually extending our healthy lives beyond today's diets and exercises and medicines, we're crossing into heretical territory somehow.

Ultimately we're in a death-worshiping culture, not a sanctity of life culture. We pay lip service to the value of life while our armies slaughter millions of families abroad and our poor people die on the streets like dogs. I find the hypocrisy of our culture to be deeply revolting - what we say and what we do are entirely antithetical.

I do not mean in that extreme sense or view...What I meant was more of natural death, if I'm laying in bed at 89 years old and feel my life slipping away I am not going to fear passing on...It's folly to fear that moment when it arrives, it's eventual and inevitable, instead I will embrace that moment because it's only one door closing and another opening...It's am not done at death, on the contrary, another chapter begins, remember to remember oneself in passing...

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[Shadowprophet]

I do not mean in that extreme sense or view...What I meant was more of natural death, if I'm laying in bed at 89 years old and feel my life slipping away I am not going to fear passing on...It's folly to fear that moment when it arrives, it's eventual and inevitable, instead I wil embrace that moment because it's only one door closing and another opening...It's am not done at death, on the contrary, another chapter begins, remember to remember oneself in passing...

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The lucky ones among us won't even see it coming, Remain positive about it, to some of us, it happens unexpectedly, And to the lucky few, they were asleep and never saw it coming. It's not necessarily something we have to fear. I'm not saying it's a flaw to fear it, rather I'm only saying, If we properly look at it from a more positive aspect than fear and dread, We may never legitimately have to worry about it. There are the lucky ones out there,

I can't promise I'll be one of the lucky ones, But, If there is a chance I could be, Why even bother to contemplate and fear a destiny that we may not have to factually face or even process? I would think, if someone isn't even aware that they are passing, then how could they fear it, In limited cases such as that.

 

[nivek]

The lucky ones among us won't even see it coming, Remain positive about it, to some of us, it happens unexpectedly, And to the lucky few, they were asleep and never saw it coming. It's not necessarily something we have to fear. I'm not saying it's a flaw to fear it, rather I'm only saying, If we properly look at it from a more positive aspect than fear and dread, We may never legitimately have to worry about it. There are the lucky ones out there,

I can't promise I'll be one of the lucky ones, But, If there is a chance I could be, Why even bother to contemplate and fear a destiny that we may not have to factually face or even process?

Of course many will not see it coming, I may pass on in my sleep one day in the future, I do not think about death nor ponder over it, but I will not afraid of it if I see it coming and have no choice about the outcome of that moment...To accept the eventuality of death does not mean one isn't embracing and living life to the fullest either, on the contrary, a life lived to its fullest includes accept the eventual passing on as a process in that life...

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[Shadowprophet]

Of course many will not see it coming, I may pass on in my sleep one day in the future, I do not think about death nor ponder over it, but I will not afraid of it if I see it coming and have no choice about the outcome of that moment...To accept the eventuality of death does not mean one isn't embracing and living life to the fullest either, on the contrary, a life lived to its fullest includes accept the eventual passing on...

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Well, My thinking on longevity as a whole is, To truly love other people, Is pain, It's the worst kind of loss, when we lose someone we love, If I could live forever, I wouldn't want too. Too much of me is already there on the other side, If that makes any sense If I could live to be a thousand, How much more of me would be there? So much that living would be unbearable I'd assume.

Some people could say, Well, That's a very convenient way to view death, I should hope so, That's the only thing we can really do, isn't it? Make the best out of the cards we are all dealt?