pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
3000K Bright White is a nice choice. I prefer the 500K Daylight for work areas. Somewhere you mentioned grow bulbs. Big Orange has them - probably pricey
3000K Bright White is a nice choice. I prefer the 500K Daylight for work areas. Somewhere you mentioned grow bulbs. Big Orange has them - probably pricey
Rick Hunter
Celestial
That's quite a selection of grow lights your store has there. Must be alot of closet farming there!
nivek
As Above So Below
LED bulbs don't seem to last as long as promoted, I've recently replaced the last two LED bulbs I had in my house, they only lasted maybe 3 years and weren't even turned on continuously nor even daily...Now all the lighting in my house uses incandescent bulbs which I prefer anyway, the frequency of light is closer to that of the sun than LED lighting, incandescent lighting is more natural and easier on the eyes...I still have some dimmable LED lights in my workshop until those burn out then they will be switched back to incandescent...
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spacecase0
earth human
life of them depends on the design, some brands are great, some not so good.
I have some that get daily use for 15 years now and are just as perfect as they started (yes, I designed and built it, but you can buy them that will actually last)
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
I've had three integrated LED flush mount ceiling fixtures in the basement that are never turned off except for a power failure. They've been on for ten years continuously. The four BR30 LED bulbs in my kitchen are on for several hours a day and they date back to about the same time. I used to go through several incandescent bulbs per year - every time I went into the attic and moved stuff around or let the door slam too hard a filament would break. Zero problems since.
It's 0500 on a Sunday morning and I am trying to be quiet. A bit too early to fire up my chop saw for a project I want to work on so I found my K2 EMF meter. Straight off a ghost hunting expedition in the fields of Gettysburg. The boiler circulator motor certainly sets it off, so does my phone and the wifi router. I swapped out some LED bulbs for incandescent and in neither case did the EMF meter even burp. Neither incandescent or LED emitted anything the meter could detect in it's starting 0 - 1.5 mG range anyway. No idea if that's a valid test but if so there are other more common very noisy emitters we live with.
The local electric utility subsidizes the cost of these bulbs in the big retail stores - cuts the price in half or more. Yes, the bulbs can and do fail prematurely. So can the 10 year sealed smoke detector batteries. Generally though, they last a long time. I have converted the entire house but for a few closet lights that rarely get used.
I'm curious specifically what it is that is causing the problem.
It's 0500 on a Sunday morning and I am trying to be quiet. A bit too early to fire up my chop saw for a project I want to work on so I found my K2 EMF meter. Straight off a ghost hunting expedition in the fields of Gettysburg. The boiler circulator motor certainly sets it off, so does my phone and the wifi router. I swapped out some LED bulbs for incandescent and in neither case did the EMF meter even burp. Neither incandescent or LED emitted anything the meter could detect in it's starting 0 - 1.5 mG range anyway. No idea if that's a valid test but if so there are other more common very noisy emitters we live with.
The local electric utility subsidizes the cost of these bulbs in the big retail stores - cuts the price in half or more. Yes, the bulbs can and do fail prematurely. So can the 10 year sealed smoke detector batteries. Generally though, they last a long time. I have converted the entire house but for a few closet lights that rarely get used.
I'm curious specifically what it is that is causing the problem.
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spacecase0
earth human
what voltage is your electricity ?
people with 120V power might have a ground issue, an intermittent connection might make 240V spikes
people with 240V electricity already don't seem to have this issue as they are not dependent on the ground connection.
other issues can happen, but that is the big one to look at first.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
Say 'loose neutral' to a decent electrician and they'll know what to do. Not uncommon but light bulbs won't be the only problem, usually it's the whole house. If they fail with any regularity I'd track down what circuit they are on. Once I did have an electrician come back to me and tell me my suggestion was helpful; renovated house loaded with LED fixtures that blinked like crazy. Not all of them, only the recently added. When you put in a sub panel the neutral (grounded wire) isn't bonded to the box the way the grounding wire is. The neutral bar is isolated with a non-conductive standoff. There's usually a long green machine screw included that can run through the neutral bar and bite into the steel box to bond it. Some people just put it in to use up the parts supplied. Mistake - the neutral-ground bond happens only once at the supply source or at building entrance. That's why it comes off the pole with three wires but after the first means of disconnect becomes four with an insulated white neutral.
So the green screw jammie made the lights freak out. Why ? Who the hell knows exactly but removing it fixed it. I'd be looking at the bare grounding conductor from the meter pan to the driven rod(s)- the bugs that attach it to the rods corrode. I also run a #6 or a #4 AWG green wire ( 100 amp & 200 amp panels respectively) to the water meter if there is a municipal supply. S.O.P. Also need an LED compatible dimmer if there is one involved.
Remember them talking about the Saturn V rockets or the Space Shuttles as they sat there awaiting liftoff? If only .001% parts failed it's a still big list. LED bulbs are cheap mass produced items that statistically will fail at a certain rate. I've had a few fail but nowhere near the rate of the incandescent.
Only other super rare thing I've heard of is some claim that LEDs interfere with their garage door openers. They do make a special and expensive LED bulb for that. I dunno. Been using two A15 LED bulbs in mine for years without issue.
Standingstones
Celestial
We use LED bulbs predominately in two places. There are two bulbs in the garage door opener and one bulb in a light above our kitchen sink. The kitchen light is on around 12 hours per night. I haven’t done a scientific count but I can only remember changing that bulb twice over the years. I have found that those LEDs are damn reliable.
We have phased out most incandescent bulbs except for a 30/60/90 watt we use in the living room fixture.
We have phased out most incandescent bulbs except for a 30/60/90 watt we use in the living room fixture.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
You can get 30/60/100 LEDs at Home depot
nivek
As Above So Below
Here we go again, banning the perfectly good light bulb...
Biden will ban traditional incandescent lightbulbs in favor of expensive LED alternatives by 2023
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Biden will ban traditional incandescent lightbulbs in favor of expensive LED alternatives by 2023
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pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
Funny how there is a huge lurch toward EVs without much thought but we can bicker about light bulbs. How is anyone to keep their baby chicks and bunnies warm? How the hell can I bake a Barbie oven cupcake without one?
nivek
As Above So Below
I stocked up on 40, 60, and 75 watt incandescent bulbs when Obama said he was going to ban them, I've already been stocking up on light bulbs recently because of inflation and supply issues...So by the time Biden enforces his ban I'll have enough to last many years...LEDs are fine, just not for me at home, I prefer lighting closer to the range the sunlight is, light in the violet/blue range is okay for work and commercial use IMO, but at home incandescent lighting feels more comfortable and is easier on the eyes...
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nivek
As Above So Below
Now Biden is going to ban incandescent bulbs and halogen bulbs...Getting sick of all this government intrusion and regulation...I have a generous stock of incandescent bulbs and now going to stock more...No one is going to come into my home and force me to switch out to LEDs while I have stock of incandescent bulbs...
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The Biden administration is preparing to implement a sweeping nationwide ban on commonly used light bulbs as part of its energy efficiency and climate agenda.
The regulations, which prohibit retailers from selling incandescent light bulbs, were finalized by the Department of Energy (DOE) in April 2022 and are slated to go into effect on Aug. 1, 2023. The DOE will begin full enforcement of the ban on that date, but it has already urged retailers to begin transitioning away from the light bulb type and, in recent months, begun issuing warning notices to companies.
"The lighting industry is already embracing more energy efficient products, and this measure will accelerate progress to deliver the best products to American consumers and build a better and brighter future," Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said last year.
According to the DOE announcement, the regulations will save consumers an estimated $3 billion per year on utility bills and cut carbon emissions by 222 million metric tons over the next three decades.
Under the rules, incandescent and similar halogen light bulbs will be prohibited in favor of light-emitting diode, or LED, alternatives. While U.S. households have increasingly switched to LED light bulbs since 2015, fewer than half of households reported using mostly or exclusively LEDs, according to the most recent results from the Residential Energy Consumption Survey.
Overall, 47% use mostly or only LEDs, 15% use mostly incandescent or halogens, and 12% use mostly or all compact fluorescent (CFL), with another 26% reporting no predominant bulb type, the federal data showed. In December, the DOE introduced separate rules banning CFL bulbs, paving the way for LEDs to be the only legal light bulbs to purchase.
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Biden admin moving forward with light bulb bans in coming weeks
LED light bulbs 'currently cost more than incandescent bulbs and are inferior,' consumer groups said in letter to U.S. Department of Energy.The Biden administration is preparing to implement a sweeping nationwide ban on commonly used light bulbs as part of its energy efficiency and climate agenda.
The regulations, which prohibit retailers from selling incandescent light bulbs, were finalized by the Department of Energy (DOE) in April 2022 and are slated to go into effect on Aug. 1, 2023. The DOE will begin full enforcement of the ban on that date, but it has already urged retailers to begin transitioning away from the light bulb type and, in recent months, begun issuing warning notices to companies.
"The lighting industry is already embracing more energy efficient products, and this measure will accelerate progress to deliver the best products to American consumers and build a better and brighter future," Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said last year.
According to the DOE announcement, the regulations will save consumers an estimated $3 billion per year on utility bills and cut carbon emissions by 222 million metric tons over the next three decades.
Under the rules, incandescent and similar halogen light bulbs will be prohibited in favor of light-emitting diode, or LED, alternatives. While U.S. households have increasingly switched to LED light bulbs since 2015, fewer than half of households reported using mostly or exclusively LEDs, according to the most recent results from the Residential Energy Consumption Survey.
Overall, 47% use mostly or only LEDs, 15% use mostly incandescent or halogens, and 12% use mostly or all compact fluorescent (CFL), with another 26% reporting no predominant bulb type, the federal data showed. In December, the DOE introduced separate rules banning CFL bulbs, paving the way for LEDs to be the only legal light bulbs to purchase.
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spacecase0
earth human
I have boxes of CFL bulbs from years ago, don't use them very often. mostly use them for physics experiments now.Now Biden is going to ban incandescent bulbs and halogen bulbs...Getting sick of all this government intrusion and regulation...I have a generous stock of incandescent bulbs and now going to stock more...No one is going to come into my home and force me to switch out to LEDs while I have stock of incandescent bulbs...
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Biden admin moving forward with light bulb bans in coming weeks
LED light bulbs 'currently cost more than incandescent bulbs and are inferior,' consumer groups said in letter to U.S. Department of Energy.
The Biden administration is preparing to implement a sweeping nationwide ban on commonly used light bulbs as part of its energy efficiency and climate agenda.
The regulations, which prohibit retailers from selling incandescent light bulbs, were finalized by the Department of Energy (DOE) in April 2022 and are slated to go into effect on Aug. 1, 2023. The DOE will begin full enforcement of the ban on that date, but it has already urged retailers to begin transitioning away from the light bulb type and, in recent months, begun issuing warning notices to companies.
"The lighting industry is already embracing more energy efficient products, and this measure will accelerate progress to deliver the best products to American consumers and build a better and brighter future," Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said last year.
According to the DOE announcement, the regulations will save consumers an estimated $3 billion per year on utility bills and cut carbon emissions by 222 million metric tons over the next three decades.
Under the rules, incandescent and similar halogen light bulbs will be prohibited in favor of light-emitting diode, or LED, alternatives. While U.S. households have increasingly switched to LED light bulbs since 2015, fewer than half of households reported using mostly or exclusively LEDs, according to the most recent results from the Residential Energy Consumption Survey.
Overall, 47% use mostly or only LEDs, 15% use mostly incandescent or halogens, and 12% use mostly or all compact fluorescent (CFL), with another 26% reporting no predominant bulb type, the federal data showed. In December, the DOE introduced separate rules banning CFL bulbs, paving the way for LEDs to be the only legal light bulbs to purchase.
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I mostly like the incandescent because they will live through an EMP if they are not turned on at the moment.
lately I am thinking of all the black market items that will be possible in the future, but not sure anyone is going to pay for CFLs in the future...