Rick Hunter
Celestial
Regardless of what you may think of Whitley's experiences and writings, he is a damn good interviewer. Here are some really good episodes of Dreamland with former CIA official Jim Semivan, they mostly talk about the nuts and bolts aspects of the intelligence community and UFOs.
View: https://youtu.be/7xBVCi_hIa0
View: https://youtu.be/FkTT7x4OH0Q
View: https://youtu.be/7xBVCi_hIa0
View: https://youtu.be/FkTT7x4OH0Q