Your thoughts on the motives behind abductions?

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  1. Jim_from_the_South

    Jim_from_the_South Honorable

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    Well, since he was a former CIA agent, I don't take what he says for much.
     
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  2. Jim_from_the_South

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    That's the script that the CIA wants him to follow. Notice how he first gains money by claiming the abductions are real, and then very quickly amends that to claim that they are not actually physical beings, but some form of hologram or something not of our dimension. Those new age terms are straight out of the
    playbook on disinformation campaign by the PTB, led by the CIA DOD and encouraged by all. Yet another group that believes nothing, and therefore feels free to lead the rest of humanity down some dark path leading away from the truth.
     
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  3. Rick Hunter

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    I don't know. He may be talking about the aliens that he has dealt with, not necessarily all of them.
     
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  4. Rick Hunter

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    Did not know that!
     
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  5. pigfarmer

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    Or the fact that his book cover pops up in so many other people's abduction cases?

    Only reason I say it's communication is to suggest a more benign purpose or that the phenomenon is a reaction to some external influence. Another way to look at the pop-culture descriptions is simply that it gives us the contemporary language to describe an event. Rewind a few centuries and the experience would have been witches or demons or whatever. The phenomenon is real but the root cause has yet to be discovered - until someone wrestles one of those little bastards to the ground and hog ties it.
     
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  6. Thomas R. Morrison

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    It occurred to me recently that perhaps my perspective on abductions has been all wrong-headed. I assume that they're just collecting data and analyzing a random cross-section of our population to basically map the diversity of our genome and tease out any useful mechanisms that have evolved here over the last few billion years...surely the biotech of any living planet would have a few surprising innovations useful to any technological species, now matter how advanced they are. It's not really disputable that human biology (and specifically the brain) represents the most advanced form of technology on Earth. All of our rockets and jets and radar systems etc., pale in comparison to the sophistication of the biological technology that evolved here naturally. Bats are basically flying sonar stations that can self-repair and self-replicate...kinda makes bulky human radar systems seem pretty primitive by comparison.

    But maybe they're looking for something specific - perhaps an avatar, an enlightened master like Buddha or Christ or Kabir.

    Or maybe people only called them "demons" back in the Dark Ages, because they had no idea about "extraterrestrial life" and their context only gave them religious terms as possible explanations. If some European pig farmer in the Middle Ages encountered a grey, slanty-eyed alien, what would he have called it? Definitely a demon. So it's quite possible that the phenomenon has remained the same, but our descriptions and explanations have evolved alongside our scientific understanding of the universe and our place within it.
     
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  7. Rick Hunter

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    Yes, this is it exactly! The phenomenon is always interpreted and understood through the usual means that a civilization uses to explain new discoveries.
     
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  8. Dejan Corovic

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    I tend to stay away from abductions because abductees' memories are mostly fragmented and unreliable. They've been passed through a strictly controlled process and they don't usually observe any physical effects that can be cross-referenced to known physics.

    But Marc Davenport made a great observation that it is impossible for different species to interbreed. Obviously, aliens have super high tech and can bypass such limitations, but there are many reports of aliens directly having sex with humans. That, in turn, gives credibility to the non-ETH hypothesis, that somehow aliens are our own descendants from the distant future.
     
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  9. Jim_from_the_South

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    My ideas are nearly in sync with your own. I believe that the demons and elves of past times represented
    a similar type of extraterrestrial being.
    As to the reason behind the abduction/taking of specimens, my research and translations tell me
    that they consider us their "children" to some extent. Whether that is biological or adopted form
    of parenthood I do not yet have complete evidence. However, they themselves speak of
    the importance of both blood and descendants, so I take it that they feel that there is some
    "claim" that they have on us. In addition they mention a plague or poison that is present
    among them, so perhaps they are attempting to fix their race.
     
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  10. pigfarmer

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    Crap! Hopefully not 'dinner'
     
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    A Long-Busted Myth: It's Not True That Animals Belonging To Different Species Can Never Interbreed
     
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  12. Jim_from_the_South

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    I have the major parts of it, but not all, at least not yet.
    At some point in our history, the Boskop man, with brain measurements of 2200 CC and
    Neanderthal man, with nearly equal sized brain matter, indicating each had about
    a 190 IQ on average, decided to move away from their more violent neighbors
    and become scientists together. To study the world and make their own version
    of Eden.

    Roughly 12000 years ago a great comet was headed for the Earth. But a dirty comet,
    with rays that no only were harmful, they also caused changes for the worse in our DNA.
    Aliens came, visiting this Eden in the North, and took a large group of the inhabitants with
    them. The rest spread out through the lands and eventually ended up in Sumeria.
    They helped the native Sumerians and taught them quite a bit.

    We find records of the Comet's destruction in tales of Atlantis, and of the Christian
    world flood - both of which relate to the same "flood" of cosmic rays that circled
    our planet. The result is a human that was weaker, smaller, and less intelligent,
    since Cro-Magnon man's brain size was about 1500-1600. Ours is now 1350, to
    give you an idea.

    No amount of evolution mumbo jumbo can explain the causes for weaker and
    dumber people like my theory can.
    Fast forward to more recent times.

    The messages that I have translated indicate that they are suffering a "plague, poison, disease",which is as close as I can get using 6000 year old words, and they are here for the
    descendants. Which would be us.

    The reason for many sighting, perhaps a million
    abductions and yet no contact to speak of, is because we would hate them, and perhaps
    try to kill them. It's our way.

    We would blame them for dumping us and leaving us behind, even though the chances
    are good that the space on the alien craft was limited.

    But they need our DNA and perhaps some other parts, so they take them. And they
    feel justified since we are them, or rather version 1.01 of them, and our DNA, while
    not desirable for purposes of direct breeding due to lower intelligence on our part, is
    desirable to cure their current "poison".

    They may be someone constrained as well, by some form of code that does not
    encourage mixing advanced technological races with less advanced.
    They did not create us. They are not time travelers. They are the versions
    of us, the smarter ones perhaps, that grew up off planet, and now are much
    more advanced, technologically speaking.

    I have evidence for most of what I am telling you, but of course some parts
    are not as well represented in our records, so I am working with what I have.

    I can tell you where they were taken, or at least that specific quadrant of the sky, a
    small slice that actually represents quite a big area since the universe is
    also very large, but it's more than we had known previously.

    They naturally come with some representatives of their adoptive parents,
    and perhaps some of their neighbors as well.

    I might go on a bit more, but then I would start to go more towards my
    feelings and away from direct evidence, and I don't wish to mislead anyone
    in that way. Needless to say, they have visited their old home grounds many
    times over the tens of thousands of years - perhaps as soon as they were able
    to construct their own ships. Home sickness I imagine.

    Do some of our own understand the above? Besides myself, who gained this
    through translations of both Sumerian works and off-world symbols, yes,
    there are some. This is evidenced by my example that I gave in another thread
    of the use of two ancient symbols to create the logo symbol used by fighter pilots,
    but also in several other forms, which I will not disclose at this time.
    I hold a few things in reserve so that I do not have "visitors" arrive on
    my mountain top.

    Use this as you will, or disbelieve it if you feel more comfortable.
    Just know that the speed of light limitation is a farce, as is multi-dimensions,
    time-travel, most of quantum physics, humans arising from apes,
    and all of our "history" as we know it.
     
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  13. SOUL-DRIFTER

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    The reasons are many and involves perhaps a very high number of visitors. One must also consider animal mutilations, IMHO. As I believe some or most have a connection.
    Keep in mind some abductions are permanent and they are never returned.
     
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  14. Skepticide123

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    I've not seen UFO occupants --just the UFOs. I believe in science and have a hard time understanding the humanoid form of aliens in reports, and their variety; it doesn't jibe with any kid of exobiological evolutionary process that I can think of, and yet apparently people see them near or in UFOs, repeatedly. Sometimes people report shadowy figures or presences, other times physical beings like "grays". I am in the position of many open-minded folks without direct knowledge of them, but as my own experience and the history of the phenomenon is so overwhelming and strange, I can't disbelieve in it (how is that for an ambiguous statement?). As far as abductions, animal "mutilations" and the humanoid aspect of some aliens, I can only think of three possibilities..

    1. The visitors have been here for a very long time and have treated this place like a nature reserve and have indeed created a human population in another place --a second earth or population in another place. The same way we create large zoos. The taking of the tongues and other organs of cattle (and sample collection generally), are used to match the microbiomes of our earth which are always changing (the tissue can provide a good sampling). The two populations are kept along a similar evolutionary course. The reason they are here is --the life. We are an amazing oasis, and might be the only one or one of the few they have encountered. They also wouldn't want us to destroy most of it with nukes, thus the surveillance of the militaries. If they were also able to travel through time, this could get very weird.

    2. They are symbolic implanted perceptions and memories, from a technology much more advanced than ours in some cases, or synthetic beings created as intermediaries from (see #1).

    3. They are able to get here and back to "there" from their contiguous universe with humanoids at certain times and places --if this was the case, they would know in advance when they could get here.

    All of these are extremely bizarre scenarios made to fit the reports.
     
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  15. Jim_from_the_South

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    Very interesting information, thank you for sharing that.

    I believe that during an event in which the human population reached a bottleneck, or
    near extinction event, about 67000 years ago, and perhaps related to the Toba volcanic
    eruption, a few hundred or so were rescued by visitors from another planet. Some
    of their descendants, along with the descendants of their adoptive "parents" and some
    neighbors, are visiting Earth and abducting its citizens in order to obtain "fresher" DNA.
    They give the reasons for that necessity, but I am not at liberty to publish them yet (on
    direction from my book publisher, not any aliens), but I will shortly.
     
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