Censorship

nivek

nivek

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MSNBC legal analyst says First Amendment makes US ‘vulnerable,’ calls for ‘common sense’ speech restrictions ​

MSNBC legal analyst Barbara McQuade argued Monday that the United States’ “deep commitment to free speech” makes Americans uniquely susceptible to disinformation campaigns. McQuade, a University of Michigan law professor, went on “The Rachel Maddow Show” to promote her new book, “Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America.” She said her “goal” with the book was to spark a “national conversation about truth and our commitment to it.”

She added, “I hope that by dissecting it, explaining it, and educating the public, we can all see disinformation for what it is so that we can begin to push back against it.”

When asked by host Rachel Maddow whether America is just as susceptible to disinformation as other countries, McQuade argued that it is even more vulnerable.

“Actually, Rachel, I think we’re more susceptible to it than other countries, and that’s because some of our greatest strengths can also be our Achilles Heel,” McQuade said. “So, for example, our deep commitment to free speech in our First Amendment. It is a cherished right. It’s an important right in democracy, and nobody wants to get rid of it, but it makes us vulnerable to claims [that] anything we want to do related to speech is censorship.”

She argued, “Of course, the Supreme Court has held that all fundamental rights, even the right to free speech, can be limited as long as there is a compelling governmental interest and the restriction is narrowly tailored to achieve that interest. But I think any time someone tries to do anything that might limit free speech, people claim censorship.”

McQuade held up as an example this week’s Supreme Court cases regarding state laws about how social media platforms moderate content.

“We need to have a conversation and common-sense solutions to these things,” she said. “Instead, we throw out terms like ‘censorship,’ call each other names, use labels and retreat to our opposite sides. We need to be pragmatic and come up with real solutions.”

“But, it is, I think, one of the things that makes America particularly vulnerable to disinformation,” she concluded.

Maddow praised the book’s arguments and touted McQuade’s work as a “real public service and a pleasure.”

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Dejan Corovic

Dejan Corovic

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nivek said:

MSNBC legal analyst says First Amendment makes US ‘vulnerable,’ calls for ‘common sense’ speech restrictions ​

MSNBC legal analyst Barbara McQuade argued Monday that the United States’ “deep commitment to free speech” makes Americans uniquely susceptible to disinformation campaigns. McQuade, a University of Michigan law professor, went on “The Rachel Maddow Show” to promote her new book, “Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America.” She said her “goal” with the book was to spark a “national conversation about truth and our commitment to it.”

She added, “I hope that by dissecting it, explaining it, and educating the public, we can all see disinformation for what it is so that we can begin to push back against it.”

When asked by host Rachel Maddow whether America is just as susceptible to disinformation as other countries, McQuade argued that it is even more vulnerable.

“Actually, Rachel, I think we’re more susceptible to it than other countries, and that’s because some of our greatest strengths can also be our Achilles Heel,” McQuade said. “So, for example, our deep commitment to free speech in our First Amendment. It is a cherished right. It’s an important right in democracy, and nobody wants to get rid of it, but it makes us vulnerable to claims [that] anything we want to do related to speech is censorship.”

She argued, “Of course, the Supreme Court has held that all fundamental rights, even the right to free speech, can be limited as long as there is a compelling governmental interest and the restriction is narrowly tailored to achieve that interest. But I think any time someone tries to do anything that might limit free speech, people claim censorship.”

McQuade held up as an example this week’s Supreme Court cases regarding state laws about how social media platforms moderate content.

“We need to have a conversation and common-sense solutions to these things,” she said. “Instead, we throw out terms like ‘censorship,’ call each other names, use labels and retreat to our opposite sides. We need to be pragmatic and come up with real solutions.”

“But, it is, I think, one of the things that makes America particularly vulnerable to disinformation,” she concluded.

Maddow praised the book’s arguments and touted McQuade’s work as a “real public service and a pleasure.”

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That's exactly the same thing that this guys was saying:


 
Dejan Corovic

Dejan Corovic

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Its just a vailed class war.

Employers want immigrants in, employees want immigrants out. Its only that politics is a theatre, so a tycoon like Trump is leading working class, while left and deep state are siding with employers.
 
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Dejan Corovic

Dejan Corovic

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Yeah, what happened historically, technology made legacy media obsolete and with rise of social media many newspapers were on a brink of bankruptcy. Long standing partnership between the legacy media and governments was manufacturing consent, but that process was disrupted by new technology of social media. For example, State Department has employed 35,000 PR representatives. 35,000 full time workers pushing desirable narratives into willingly obliging legacy media.

But rise of social media enabled truly "people's" candidate, like Trump, to become president, and completely bypass legacy media. In short, establishment temporarily lost control over the media because of technological change.

And that's how new censorship rose, in order to again give the elites control over the manufacturing consent. That's why they are now heavily persecuting all the populists and why elites are trying to financially destroy Trump. There are 100s of small political web sites from US and Canada that are banned in EU.

Effectively freedom of speech is dead, and it will stay dead.
 
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J Randall Murphy

J Randall Murphy

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Dejan Corovic said:
Yeah, what happened historically, technology made legacy media obsolete and with rise of social media many newspapers were on a brink of bankruptcy. Long standing partnership between the legacy media and governments was manufacturing consent, but that process was disrupted by new technology of social media. For example, State Department has employed 35,000 PR representatives. 35,000 full time workers pushing desirable narratives into willingly obliging legacy media.

But rise of social media enabled truly "people's" candidate, like Trump, to become president, and completely bypass legacy media. In short, establishment temporarily lost control over the media because of technological change.

And that's how new censorship rose, in order to again give the elites control over the manufacturing consent. That's why they are now heavily persecuting all the populists and why elites are trying to financially destroy Trump. There are 100s of small political web sites from US and Canada that are banned in EU.

Effectively freedom of speech is dead, and it will stay dead.
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I wouldn't bet on freedom of speech will "staying dead". Activists have always found ways to resist, non-comply, and ultimately bring down governments that oppress them. The problem is that in the meantime, most people seem fine in their complacent little worlds, until one day they find themselves to be victims of the totalitarianism that they failed to keep from proliferating.
 
Dejan Corovic

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OK, you might or might not agree, but I watched absolute tons of history documentaries on YouTube to identify what creates social collapse, since country to which I was born, Yugoslavia, collapsed to my surprise.

There are various reasons, but one seems to looms few tens of years before meltdown, and that is development of an untouchable, and thus ultimately irresponsible and corrupt bureaucracy. That bureaucracy is aware of crisis, but is incapable of solving it and thus it just isolates itself from incoming collapse. Great example of this was collapse of Roman empire. Towards the end, Romans had rampant 30% / month inflation during last few hundred of years, but they didn't have economics and didn't understand causes of inflation.

So, how did Roman bureaucracy "solved" crisis? They created two currencies, one denominated in gold, that was immune to inflation, for government employees, and the other currency denominated in copper, that suffered rampant inflation, for everybody else. Needless to say it didn't work.
 
Dejan Corovic

Dejan Corovic

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J Randall Murphy said:
I wouldn't bet on freedom of speech will "staying dead". Activists have always found ways to resist, non-comply, and ultimately bring down governments that oppress them. The problem is that in the meantime, most people seem fine in their complacent little worlds, until one day they find themselves to be victims of the totalitarianism that they failed to keep from proliferating.
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I would strongly disagree. Mainstream people are too busy worrying about money and freedom matters only to oddballs. So mainstream would gladly sacrifice freedom, for even most superficial promise of stability.
 
J Randall Murphy

J Randall Murphy

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Dejan Corovic said:
I would strongly disagree. Mainstream people are too busy worrying about money and freedom matters only to oddballs. So mainstream would gladly sacrifice freedom, for even most superficial promise of stability.
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The MSM — Yes. At least at present. But it wasn't always that way, and there is a cycle that will eventually see the alt media rise and end-up becoming the new MSM. It's already happening now, which is why there are massive efforts to stop it — but they will ultimately fail — like they always do. Then the cycle will repeat itself again.
 
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