Could Parallel Universes Be Physically Real?

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  1. CasualBystander

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    Anyway they are firing neutrons at what should be an impenetrable wall and measuring neutrons on the other side.

    If they find neutrons, the neutrons took a short cut.
     
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  2. nivek

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    So they're knocking on a wall in the dark hoping to find a window or door to climb in?...:ph8:

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  3. CasualBystander

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    This is the lead researcher:
    Leah Broussard: Breaking the Standard Model to Fix Understanding of the Universe | ORNL

    Wonder what they are using as a shield?

    https://fas.org/sgp/othergov/doe/lanl/lib-www/la-pubs/00326407.pdf
    https://www.eichrom.com/wp-content/...on-attenuation-white-paper-by-d-m-rev-2-1.pdf

    The problem with shielding neutrons is there is a reflection cross section, an absorption cross section, plus various absorption effects (such as fission and gamma absorption on capture).
     
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  4. Georgek

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    There is an old saying that the truth lies close at hand but mankind searches afar for it!

    We use our primitive physics to calculate the law of their existence.... and travel based on the sole understanding that our physical existence is the basis of all values as WE are the founders of universal law as THEY are deemed to exist, in our pocket of existence!

    Very strange philosophies indeed!
    As they can see us and despite our limited perception of them...we are able to judge them entirely??

    All I have read is how neutrons do this and that as the 'windows are still hidden in the darkness.'

    Well.......could it just be that their perception is greater and better than ours?

    Oh that will not do because how can anyone say that they are the ones who have mastered universal laws?

    Would that indicate because of their superiority, they are able to both be aware and to transgress these doorways similar to the way that we can step across a puddle of water?
    Must we...with all our limitations pathe ways into darkness ?

    I cannot begin to work them out.

    Yet with all my limitations I accept them. Which from my understanding here...most do not.

    In order for you all to accept them, you are seeking ways for them to be recognisable in our/your world.

    This be the basis of your logic.
    You are all trying to find ways for them to fit in!

    You see I do not.

    The foundation of my knowledge (not belief) is that they do exist and are able to pass through stone walls and into your rooms and you would not even know that they are there!

    I know this...and you do not.

    The difference is that I can build from that knowledge whereas yours are just theories and mainly what 'YouTube' says.

    I have well over 54 years of experience and can tell you, that the aliens that I know can speak our languages with a 100 or so accents and know our science inside out together with our history, politics and geography with maths included.

    How do they do it?

    I do not have the faintest idea!

    This is the difference between them and myself...as I know my place.

    I know my place because I do not know theirs and that is the main ingredient that allows communication.

    They do not have to explain to me because it is not going to solve anything.

    We say:- "Look over there...ALIENS! Let us see how we can make them fit into our world before we can accept them. Or else how can we accept them if they do not make sense? It has to be wrong! "

    Someone once called a person who could not walk a cripple. He was told that the correct word was an invalid. By which the person who could not walk said:-

    "Whether I am a cripple or an invalid.....I still cannot walk, so what difference does that make?"

    The answer to all this is nothing to do with science.

    Life is built on layers. That is what I term as real and our world is the world of illusion.

    All you are doing is discussing an illusion and how it fits into the real world. Theirs...not ours is the real world.

    Aliens pity this world and has nothing much to offer it, apart from 'tossing it a few coins'

    They come here to correct all the damage that we have caused to our Earth. It is not our Earth...we just borrow it for a short while. They watch our airports, military, space explorations and animals as well as abducting to find what has corrupted our seed!

    There is no aim in revealing themselves which would otherwise cause panic, anger and hate.

    So they pass through...silently from one dimension to another.

    ;)


     
  5. Georgek

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    I thought the earth was sick...not them?

    They must be sicker than I thought if they want to stay here or find something similar?

    Well...I suppose it is understandable...after all we are the supreme beings of the universe which may be the main reason why they ignore us?
     
  6. CasualBystander

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    Well...

    We are changing the planet. Not sure we are ruining it, but we are changing it.

    The Eco community is simply crazy. 90% of species are less than 200,000 years old. C4 is an adaption to low CO2 that disappears when CO2 returns to normal.

    The environment is not a constant. Never has been, never will be. The deluded concept that 1900 or earlier was the perfect or normal state of planet is simply wrong. It is a snapshot of the state of the planet that has never occurred before and never will again.

    Further: not all species are needed. The repeated evolution of Aldabra flightless Rails shows that niches will get filled. The Sabre Toothed tiger evolved perhaps a dozen times.

    That being said, we need to stop invasive species problems, probably halt equatorial deforestation, and start figuring out up front what changes we need to make to support 9-10 billion people.

    Common-sense conservation is good. Eco-fanaticism isn't.
     
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  7. nivek

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    Duplicate Cheque Incident | Parallel Time Line Anomaly

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  8. Shadowprophet

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    I don't know if I posted this before, I probably did, But we may have evidence of a parallel universe that has bumped into our own.



    Yes, This is debatable, However, It's being heavily speculated that this cold spot in the cosmic microwave backgound could be evidence of another universe touching our own.
     
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  9. SOUL-DRIFTER

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    There is also the possibility that some unseen intelligence had a hand in it, for the purpose of seeing our responses and reactions.
     
  10. The shadow

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    Rikki told me that she had seen a reality where we never met. it is a sad place..
     
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  11. Thomas R. Morrison

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    Here's the deal.

    Logic dictates that one cannot prove a negative, for example, one can't say with 100% certainty that parallel universes aren't real.

    One the other hand, there's zero empirical evidence to indicate that parallel universes are real.

    So while it's amusing to consider the possibilities, i.e. "what if?" - it remains unscientific and irrational to actually believe in the existence of parallel universes until we have some compelling empirical reason to do so.

    I looked at that "mysterious duplicate check" video and it remains vastly more likely that some prosaic explanation applies; for example, the bank statement was either Photoshopped or the woman wrote out two very similar copies of the same check in her checkbook and only put one into the drawer. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - and the claim that we're adrift in a multiverse and somehow casually drift from one to the other without noticing (until a duplicate check seems to appear magically) does not constitute "extraordinary evidence" because one check was apparently destroyed so the two can't ever be compared. Without a scientific comparison of the two checks side by side, all we have is a story, and a story doesn't constitute empirical evidence.
     
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  12. Shadowprophet

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    To be fair though, The same thing could have been said about any scientific discovery before empirical evidence became available though. I mean, Black holes were only a fantasy in 1947. I like you, Thomas I always have, you know that. But, You lean so hard on Empirical evidence. It leaves so little room for Hypothesis. An important part of the process brother.
     
  13. Thomas R. Morrison

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    Hypothesis is good. But it's meaningless without empirical evidence.

    And it's a logical fallacy to assert that "other things that were proven true were only hypotheses before they were proven, therefore all hypotheses must be truths awaiting to be proven."

    The only things we have to guide us are theory and empirical evidence - and we have to remain suspect of theory because it changes. So without empirical evidence all we have are fancies, and we should never assume that our fancies are true without empirical evidence, otherwise we live in a fantasy, not an empirical reality.
     
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  14. Shadowprophet

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    I think What I am trying to say is Before man could fly, He dreamed he could fly, And now we can fly at eight times the speed of sound., That dreaming part is important in creation and development.
     
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  15. Thomas R. Morrison

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    That's different though; the "dream of flying" is an ambition, not a hypothesis about the nature of physical reality. If you have the ambition to fly then you could eventually figure out a way to do it. But having an ambition to live in a manifold of accessible parallel realities can't ever make it happen; it's either real or it isn't. And we have absolutely no credible reason at all to think that parallel realities are real.

    It would be cool if we did. But "it would be cool" is a terrible reason to believe something.
     
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  16. SOUL-DRIFTER

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    Ever heard of Bell's theorem?
     
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    The recent Joe Rogan interview (show 1428) with physicist Brian Greene was most interesting. He does make mention of parallel universes where you and I could have a doppelgänger in another universe. I didn’t understand a great deal of the discussion but it is good to listen to such programs and try and stretch your understanding of such matters.
     
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  19. nivek

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    I think I'll give that show a listen today, thanks...

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  20. SonicSunset

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    I know we got the latest threat and I wonder if we can defeat the peril from China.
     

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