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Pope Frank really burns my buns. If it’s about overpopulation let Say Yes to the Dress guy have a nice chat about birth control
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There are THREE distinct strains of the novel coronavirus in the world and the virus 'may be mutating to thrive in different immune systems'
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- Type A is closest to the one found in bats and pangolins and has two sub-clusters
- One sub-cluster has links to Wuhan and the other is found in the US and Australia
- Type B is derived from type A and is the dominant variation seen in Wuhan
- Type C is the 'daughter' of type B and was spread to Europe via Singapore
No you're getting it all mixed up: the article was exclusively talking about the three identified strains of the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, and their sub-types. The "common human coronaviruses" have been around for years and have nothing to do with this pandemic.There are actually Four.
Coronavirus | Human Coronavirus Types | CDC
Human Coronavirus Types
Coronaviruses are named for the crown-like spikes on their surface. There are four main sub-groupings of coronaviruses, known as alpha, beta, gamma, and delta.
Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s. The seven coronaviruses that can infect people are:
Common human coronaviruses
Other human coronaviruses
- 229E (alpha coronavirus)
- NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
- OC43 (beta coronavirus)
- HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
People around the world commonly get infected with human coronaviruses 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1.
- MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
- SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
- SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus that causes coronavirus disease 2019, or COVID-19)
Sometimes coronaviruses that infect animals can evolve and make people sick and become a new human coronavirus. Three recent examples of this are 2019-nCoV, SARS-CoV, and MERS-CoV.
I've never been one to shy away from being wrong,No you're getting it all mixed up: the article was exclusively talking about the three identified strains of the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, and their sub-types. The "common human coronaviruses" have been around for years and have nothing to do with this pandemic.
We just don't have the answers to those questions yet...it's so goddamn frustrating to deal with this pandemic because it happened so fast that the march of science is only now barely beginning to understand this virus, and it's a moving target because the more it spreads, the more it mutates.I've never been one to shy away from being wrong,
Brother, I'm in a bad way today, Things are getting weird down here in Kentucky. I'm very high. I just Riped that From the CDC website. I do see how, How that article clarifies the sars and MERS variants. I'm not with the program at all at the moment. I'm extremely high just trying to remain nonpaniced and calm.
Though, I would like more information on the different strains of the current Sars-cov 2 though, Is this why some people just get the sniffles and others die horribly? Because they caught different strains?
Most people with a brain are pretty tweaked out these days, because this is a giant shit sandwich of a predicament that's gripping the entire planet. So don't beat yourself up for coming a bit unglued: that only means that you're human.I know what you mean,
Everybody already knew I was prone to breakdowns, I'm a literal mess right now
Don't worry though. even if the only reason not to worry is worry does us no good brother
Most people with a brain are pretty tweaked out these days, because this is a giant shit sandwich of a predicament that's gripping the entire planet. So don't beat yourself up for coming a bit unglued: that only means that you're human.
I think that some level of worry is a good thing right now: if you're worried then you're more likely to observe social distancing and to disinfect everything that you bring into the house etc. Worry is a survival mechanism.
And we should probably get used to it. Because while I'm seeing some reasons to hope for this to abate somewhat in the relative near term, the truth is that we don't have the infrastructure to mount a rapid biotech response to this problem so we're probably looking at a two-year or longer on-going threat with this thing. All these hopeful news articles and such are totally ignoring the fact that it would be a totally unprecedented medical miracle to have a vaccine or a cure for this virus within the next two years. All of us are hoping to see that happen, but frankly that's about 99 parts wishful thinking to 1 part reasonable projection.
Nothing's permanent, so while it's reasonable to expect this to last 2-3 years, it's not going to last forever. Things will eventually return to "normal," probably once we have a vaccine and/or synthetic antibodies.I've even heard people claiming that the ways this will change businesses and the social distancing thing may change how society functions permanently, I mean, It just makes sense really, This pandemic isn't the only disease people will want to avoid from now on, In the longest stretch I feel sorry for the younger people who date. Can you imagine what a post-pandemic world will be like for people who want to date each other? with fears of diseases and with social distancing becoming the norm?
What's happening in France, Germany, Belgium, Spain and Italy right now is what's about to happen in the US and hopefully in the UK soon as well - the number of active cases is flattening out as the daily death toll spikes, because the number of active cases is a leading indicator and the daily deaths are a trailing indicator. So the good news is that the daily deaths will also start to level out in a few days to a week. This is the darkness before the first light of dawn.There's been more spikes in deaths for Thursday, especially France but also Germany, Belgium, and the UK have higher numbers of deaths...Spain and Italy seem to be counting between 600 to 700 deaths per day which isn't good...
the Great Depression 2.0 that we're now sliding into.
I guess we should thank the governors for showing the leadership to save lives during a deadly global pandemic, then, because if people were still working in close quarters indoors then this virus would have exactly what it needs to grow throughout our population exponentially and completely overwhelm our hospitals until people were dying in the streets waiting for a hospital bed. That's where we'd be right now if people weren't staying at home.I'd like to add a note to that, the Federal government has not shut down a single business, President Trump has not shut down a single business in America, the State Governors have done this...Of course these actions are saving lives but many of those lives will be lost later if we do not develop a sure fire vaccine because all the people that are allegedly staying at home are still vulnerable...They have no immunity to it, in a round about sort of way we are possibly setting the stage for a second wave and if a second wave is anything close to this first wave we will most certainly without doubt see another Great Depression
Sure but I think that given the choice between "financial ruination" and "slowly drowning to death in your own blood plasma over a couple of weeks alone and terrified and intubated in a crowded ICU," most people would opt for the former over the latter. So I don't understand why you're casting shade on the state governors: you chose to self-isolate to spare yourself from exposure to this virus....why should anyone in their right mind do any differently? Let me put it this way: how do you think we should be dealing with this pandemic differently?...As you said though, we may already be sliding into the Great Depression 2.0, so many of the lives saved from Covid-19, as a result of shutting down businesses, may be ruined financially due to the course of actions of our State Governors...
There's good news and bad news on that front. The good news: they're already doing this and it definitely helps. The bad news: the human antibody production rate is fairly modest and about 30% of recovered patients have little if any detectable antibodies. This is not yet well-understood, like all of the really important questions about this virus...I mentioned in a earlier thread that I wondered if people who received plasma from a donor in order to recover from Covid-19 continued to have a good percentage of antibodies to remain immune from reinfection because it may be the short term answer to giving other people an immunity...Donated plasma from recovered people given to those who haven't had Covid-19 yet may help them become immune if the antibody count remains stable enough, it may be a shot in the dark though, it may or may not work...
As Thomas mentioned earlier, consistency in reporting, rather than completeness, is what is important to determine a trend. You have to do quite a lot of detective work to determine that the metrics you are using are based on consistent data gathering. Many national case reporting programmes are not consistent.Italy sees number of new coronavirus deaths rise and infections tally increase by more than 4,000 for the first time in four days, lowering hopes the illness is in retreat
Deaths from the COVID-19 epidemic in Italy rose by 610 on Thursday, up from 542 the day before, and the number of new cases also came in higher at 4,204 from a previous 3,836.
The daily tally of cases was the highest since April 5, and comes as a disappointment to a country in lockdown since March 9, anxious for clear signs that the illness is in retreat.
The total death toll since the outbreak came to light rose to 18,279, the Civil Protection Agency said, the highest in the world. The number of confirmed cases climbed to 143,626, the third highest global tally behind those of the United States and Spain.
I've been clear as a bell on my position about this: we should've locked down the entire country and deployed the national guard to all of our major cities to make sure that anybody on the road is either getting provisions or getting medical attention.