john keel's theory is that the cosmic trickster knows how to make manifestations in all the radiation spectrums, and due to atoms being basically made of energy they can make physical objects too, a tic-tac would be impossibly easy to "them", in fact john keel has a bunch of identical reports in "operation trojan horse"
If he thinks that all ufos (even the clearly physical technological devices that we're seeing in the Nimitz case and similar cases) are manifestations of the same thing that was behind the Mothman incidents, then he's wrong. Because A.) it's crazy to try to explain all anomalous sightings with a single postulate, and B.) it's even crazier to think that some essentially omnipotent being is making material devices out of energy when a far simpler explanation exists (which is backed up by several branches of known science from physics and astrophysics to astrobiology etc.).
Science instructs us to form our hypotheses conservatively (Occam's razor). That's worked out pretty well so far. It's more likely that these solid technological devices are exactly that, rather than they were synthesized via inconceivable processes by an inconceivable being from an inconceivable plane of existence that remains totally unknown to science.
hmmm i see some inconsistense here, you said before that the only "alien" (pardon the pun) thing about UFOs are the gravity drive they use, now you say that they are far beyond your capabilities, again CE3 reports go angaist both stataments but i heard you dont believe in them, so okay
Don't do that: if you think you're going to find logical inconsistencies in my reasoning, you're wrong, and you will fail.
I never said the "only thing" alien about ufos is their gravitational field propulsion system. But clearly that propulsion principle is far beyond our current capabilities - that concept is at the cutting edge of our most advanced theoretical physics and remains far beyond our capability to engineer. It's spacetime engineering, and a fairly exotic form of spacetime engineering at that. To date, humans have yet to produce any detectable gravitational field in the lab.
To put that in perspective: the first gravitational wave that the LIGO facility picked up in 2015, arrived from a distance of about 1.4 billion light-years away. To date, we haven't been able to achieve a detectable gravitational signal using equipment placed in the same room as the detector. And that's the easy part. We have yet to even
conceive of a method for producing the inverse gravitational field required to actually build a gravity field propulsion mechanism. So it might take a million years, or perhaps a billion years, before we'll be able to build that kind of technology, unless we make some totally unforeseeable and radical discovery that changes the game. So yes, this kind of technology is vastly beyond our capabilities at this time - but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't keep looking for ways to accelerate progress in that direction, because that kind of technology will transform human civilization.
And I didn't say that I disbelieve all CE3 reports, I just said that without supporting evidence it's impossible to sort the true stories from the fake ones, which makes them worthless as a data set.
i take any whistleblower claim with a planet made of salt, in fact to this day i have only seen 2 or 3 that semmed plausible and likely enough to probally be true
It's rare, but it does happen. And when it's genuine, we get data that we would never have gotten otherwise, so it's worthwhile to figure out which ones are real and which ones are disinformation.
uh oh, STAY AWAY FROM ANYTHING EXOPOLITICS RELATED!
these are the same guys that brought corey goode into the lime light and i find it disturbing to see a scientist like you believing anything they say
This is why blanket conclusions are so dangerous: I discovered that connection on my own, because I was reading up on the Snowden leaks, and I recognized the onion principle security apparatus described in those documents from hearing Dan Sherman's interview from 16 years earlier. So I checked to see if anyone else had noticed the connection, and found Scalla's post. So regardless of their mistakes, with this post they were correct, and the data exists independently of them so anybody can verify it for themselves.