Mass Shooting in Las Vegas

[dr wu]

{First - correction on my last post: Sheriff of Las Vegas is Lombardo - Gillespie was the former sheriff.}

Now as to facts and possible conspiracies - Check this out:

Las Vegas sheriff: gunman planned to survive and may have had help
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Las Vegas police said there was evidence gunman Stephen Paddock intended to survive and escape his deadly attack at a country music festival on Sunday, and revealed that he also rented an apartment overlooking another music festival that took place in the city the previous weekend.

The disclosures were among several new details revealed by Sheriff Joseph Lombardo, who also strayed into speculation that the man believed responsible for the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history had help.


“Do you think this was all accomplished on his own?” Lombardo asked, noting the arsenal of weapons the shooter amassed, and the discovery of explosives in his car. He added: “You’ve got to make the assumption he had to have some help at some point.”"............
See whole article here:
Las Vegas sheriff: gunman planned to survive and may have had help

Consider that and you can consider any number of potential conspiracies at this point - Including those that involve terrorism, extortion, kidnaping and blackmail - All worth considering for interest
- But then again, in this case, the nut acting alone, even if inadvertently helped by some outside party, is still possible.

Well...lets see what shakes out as time goes on.....that's not enough evidence for a 'conspiracy'...imo.
The hotel cameras showed only him carrying in the suitcases btw....if anyone else was involved it was peripherally.
I don't think we'll find anything interesting regarding orgs or groups.....I think h this guy simply flipped out for personal reasons.
I also think that those that are conspiracy minded (and I don't mean in a nutty way..) tend to look for these things when they aren't there.

 

[AlienView]

I also think that those that are conspiracy minded (and I don't mean in a nutty way..) tend to look for these things when they aren't there.

That's History - All Human history has elements of conspiracy - What you see and what you are told, often has been
distilled for popular consumption - Facts of history are written to suit the ruling powers that be - Welcome to the
post "1984" World - but maybe it was always this way.

 

[Toroid]

On 09/30/17 Paddock called in two loud music complaints. The occupants of 31-135 directly beneath his room were playing country music too loud. He could have had a psychotic reaction to loud noises.
Las Vegas shooter made two noise complaints before rampage | Daily Mail Online
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Paddock would visit Mesquite, Nevada senior center three or more times a week for a subsidized $3.50 lunch. The guy was a tightwad, but would drop $100,000 in an eight hour gambling marathon.
Frugal Las Vegas shooter ate retirees' $3.50 lunch | Daily Mail Online

 

[Toroid]

There's evidence Paddock had plans to escape after the shooting. Sheriff Joe Lombardo has been restricted on what he can say.
The Las Vegas shooter 'planned to escape'

Yes,” Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Wednesday when asked if the shooter had planned to escape after the killing. He did not elaborate how: “I can’t tell you.”

 

[Toroid]

Reports claim Paddock considered other targets before the Las Vegas shooting.
The Las Vegas gunman may have considered other targets including Lollapalooza and Fenway Park

Authorities say Paddock booked rooms overlooking the Lollapalooza music festival in Chicago in August and the Life Is Beautiful concert in Las Vegas in September and also researched hotels near Boston's Fenway Park, the home of the Red Sox.

Paddock booked a room in The Blackstone Hotel across from Grant Park, where Lollapalooza was held, during the first week of the festival, and he rented a room at The Ogden, a luxury high-rise with a line of sight to the Life Is Beautiful concert grounds near the Las Vegas Strip.

Though it is unclear what his intentions with those actions, he ultimately chose to mount an attack from the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino across the street from the Route 91 Harvest country music festival held last weekend. A high-stakes gambler and regular at the Mandalay Bay, Paddock checked into his 32nd-floor suite on September 28, three days before his meticulously planned attack.

 

[Toroid]

The names of the victims have been released. A couple of nights ago I heard on Coast to Coast that another victim had died in the hospital putting the number at 60 and now it has dropped to 58.
Coroner releases names of all 58 Las Vegas shooting victims

Charleston Hartfield, 34, Las Vegas

Brett Schwanbeck, 61, Bullhead City, Ariz.

Austin Meyer, 24, Reno

Pati Mestas, 67, Menifee, California

Nicol Kimura, 38, Placentia, California

Christopher Hazencomb, 44, Camarillo, California

Andrea Castilla, 28, Huntington Beach, California

Carly Kreibaum, 33, Sutherland, Iowa

Steve Berger, 44, Milwaukee, Wisconsin

Brian Fraser, 39, Walnut, California

Derrick "Bo" Taylor, 56, Oxnard, California

Denise Cohen, 58, Carpinteria, California

Christiana Duarte, 22, Torrance, California

Candice Bowers, 40, Garden Grove, California

Lisa Patterson, 46, Rancho Palos Verdes, California

Rocio Guillen Rocha, 40, Eastvale, California

Jordyn Rivera, 21, San Bernardino, California

Austin Davis, 29, Riverside, California

Laura Shipp, 50, Thousand Oaks, California

Keri Galvan, 51, Thousand Oaks, California

Tara Roe Smith, 34, Okotoks, Alberta, Canada

Calla Medig, 28, Jasper, Alberta, Canada

Carrie Parsons, 31, Seattle, Washington

Cameron Robinson, 28, St. George, Utah

Michelle Vo, 32, Los Angeles, California

Brennan Stewart, 30, Las Vegas

Erick Silva, 21, Las Vegas

Dorene Anderson, 49, Anchorage, Alaska

Heather Alvarado, 35, Enoch, Utah

Hannah Ahlers, 34, Beaumont, California

Stacee Etcheber, 50, Novato, California

Christopher Roybal, 28, Denver, Colorado

Victor Link, 55, San Clemente, California

Melissa Ramirez, 26, Bakersfield, California

Kelsey Meadows, 28, Taft, California

Dana Gardner, 52, Grand Terrace, California

Bill Wolfe, Jr., 42, Shippensburg, Pennsylvania

Carrie Barnette, 34, Garden Grove, California

Thomas Day Jr., 54, Corona, California

Jennifer Parks, 36, Lancaster, California

Kurt Von Tillow, 55, Cameron Park, California

Jack Beaton, 54, Bakersfield, California

Denise Burditus, 50, Martinsburg, West Virginia

Sandy Casey, 35, Redondo Beach, California

Angie Gomez, 20, Riverside, California

Jennifer Irvine, 42, San Diego

Jessica Klymchuk, 34, Valleyview, Alberta, Canada

Rhonda LeRocque, 42, Tewksbury, Massachusetts

Jordan McIldoon, 23, Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada

Sonny Melton, 29, Paris, Tennessee

Adrian Murfitt, 35, Anchorage, Alaska

Rachel Parker, 33, Manhattan Beach, California

John Phippen, 57, Valencia, California

Quintin Robbins, 20, Henderson

Lisa Romero-Muniz, 48, Gallup, New Mexico

Bailey Schweitzer, 20, Bakersfield, California

Susan Smith, 53, Simi Valley, California

Neysa Tonks, 46, Las Vegas

www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0PsmoRJKMw

 

[Toroid]

Did the Illuminati card deck predict the Las Vegas event? Jason Aldean has the same jack & ace of spades tattooed on his left arm which are his initials.
Illuminati Card Game Predicted Vegas Massacre; Did Singer Jason Aldean Have Foreknowledge?

Ace of Spades and the Hidden Truth

Entering this Saturn-ruled cycle with an Ace of Spades as my primary card, I feel the significance of what this period will bring. The Ace of Spades is one of the most ancient symbols for death and transformation, as well as deep spiritual truth. It is the one card in the 52 card deck representing the hidden truth that lies behind the veil of illusion in our earthly experience. Its energy initiates us into penetrating the distinction between what we perceive as truth and what truth actually is.

Jack of Spades

All Jacks are Neophytes, learning and experimenting with the esoteric meaning of their suit. The Spade Suit symbolizes the balance between wisdom and hard- work; spirituality and the physical world. The royal Jack of Spade is well positioned for success, but it is this very blessing that often leads to their demise.
KARMIC CHALLENGE for the Jack of Spade: Arrogance and Manipulation.

The positive Jack of Spade have equipped themselves with education and training. They work for the love of their art or their job, not just the pay check, and they strive to give their best to the task at hand.

The negatives among these people destroy the inherent protection that surrounds them through irresponsibility and cunning. Indeed - the Jack of Spade is sometimes known as the con man of the deck. Should this be the unfortunate turn of the Card, Jacks of Spade are subject to scandal, disgrace, and misinterpretation of their motives on a very big scale. (think: Mel Gibson)

 

[Captain Tinkle]

Terrible what happened.

Vegas security always has been lax in my opinion.

Yes there are plenty of security guards about but lack of checks etc... on the doors to the Casinos.

I am currently in Orlando at the moment and getting into any of the parks you have to go through security checkpoints and searches.

I guess implementing such checks in Vegas would be difficult but surely not impossible...

 

[Toroid]

What was initially thought to be a suicide note on the table in Paddock's room was a list of numbers that they claim are calculations for bullet trajectories.
Paddock wrote detailed notes on bullet trajectory | Daily Mail Online

• The first four officers who stormed Paddock's hotel room revealed new details about the deadliest shooting in American history to 60 Minutes

• Mandalay Bay shooter wrote detailed notes on how to maximize kills

• Stephen Paddock, 64, may have also practiced targeted shooting two days before Las Vegas massacre

• At least 58 people were killed on Sunday along with 489 wounded on Sunday

• Paddock sprayed bullets upon fans at The Route 91 Harvest Music Festival

• Investigators said that they have found surveillance footage showing Paddock driving towards a secluded area leading to shooting area

• Meanwhile, authorities began cleaning up the area where the shooting occurred, clearing away the personal belongings of thousands of concert goers

• Vice President Mike Pence was also in Las Vegas Saturday, there to attend a ceremony honoring the victims killed or wounded in the attack

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4959490/Paddock-wrote-detailed-notes-bullet-trajectory.html#ixzz4uwK6coWe
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[nivek]

Terrible what happened.

Vegas security always has been lax in my opinion.

Yes there are plenty of security guards about but lack of checks etc... on the doors to the Casinos.

I am currently in Orlando at the moment and getting into any of the parks you have to go through security checkpoints and searches.

I guess implementing such checks in Vegas would be difficult but surely not impossible...

Welcome back to the US, hope you enjoy your holiday here...

 

[Captain Tinkle]

Welcome back to the US, hope you enjoy your holiday here...

Yep it has been all good Leaving on Thursday so I will put some pictures on the forum when I recover at the weekend.

 

[Toroid]

The Luxor obelisk is across the street from where the victims were shot. At 2:30 into this video it states the Masons placed obelisks all over the world throughout history to control consciousness and it represent of phallus of the dragon or Draco.
Alien Archons Are Ruling The Earth Since The Dawn Of Time – Disclose.tv

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfa5sp7aZ9I

Published on Oct 7, 2017
They've been running this planet since the dawn of time... Dragons aren't some mythological being. The Draco Reptilians came from the Alpha Draconis star system out of the Draco Constellation.
Source: http://humansarefree.com/2017/10/alie...

 

[nivek]

The Luxor obelisk is across the street from where the victims were shot. At 2:30 into this video it states the Masons placed obelisks all over the world throughout history to control consciousness and it represent of phallus of the dragon or Draco.
Alien Archons Are Ruling The Earth Since The Dawn Of Time – Disclose.tv

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfa5sp7aZ9I

This is very similar to information originally gathered in Italy through various interrogations and questioning of people under hypnosis who were allegedly under control or influence by these creatures...They say there are a small group of aliens who agreed to an alliance to get what they want from humans on this world, these creatures are allegedly a part of this shady alliance...

 

[nivek]

What do you see happening in this photo?...Is it photochopped or not?...

 

[AlienView]

The Luxor obelisk is across the street from where the victims were shot. At 2:30 into this video it states the Masons placed obelisks all over the world throughout history to control consciousness and it represent of phallus of the dragon or Draco.
Alien Archons Are Ruling The Earth Since The Dawn Of Time – Disclose.tv

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfa5sp7aZ9I

Watched the video {everyone should watch the video} - First reaction was to laugh

First thought was - Yes it is possible!

But remember - many believe that the entire Satan {Dragon?} thing was a construct of the Church
- And yet references to demonic forces can be found in the Old Testament as well.

I would hesitate to pass judgement - The Dragon is a mythological construct and is worshipped in
Chinese culture.

Even in the West: "Puff the Magic Dragon"

Of course none of this will get us any closer to truth about what sort of demon possessed Paddock before he went on his rampage - What we do know is that it was well planed in advance.

The whole event begs for a 'conspiracy theory' or hidden agenda - No one has come up with a good one yet.

Add this to the of interest category:

So I'm doing some research on videos posted on YouTube having to do with the Paddock massacre - And up pops this:

"Stephen Paddock former Lockheed Martin employee! Mind Control?"

Apparently he worked for Lockheed Martin - and you can only imagine the type of 'black ops' that go on there.

The video even mentioned alleged interactions between that company and aliens.

Here is the YouTube video [watch it all it's only about 5 minutes]

Stephen Paddock former Lockheed Martin employee! Mind
Control?

 

[Toroid]

This link has a picture of Paddock's upper half. They claim he shot himself in the mouth.
The World of "Lee Harvey" Paddock Reveals What Happened and What's Coming

 

[nivek]

Gun control capitol Socialist Chicago has the 500th fatal gun shooting of the year...

Just saying...

 

[dr wu]

Gun control capitol Socialist Chicago has the 500th fatal gun shooting of the year...

Just saying...

What's with the 'socialist' remark about Chicago....? You don't think there are any 'socialists' ,as you call them, in LA, New York, Atlanta, Dallas, etc.. etc...?
BTW....are you going to turn down your Social Security and Medicare when you are old enough to apply? Do you think the other 'righties' who bitch all the time will? If not perhaps you need to rethink your position on some things.

 

[nivek]

What's with the 'socialist' remark about Chicago....? You don't think there are any 'socialists' ,as you call them, in LA, New York, Atlanta, Dallas, etc.. etc...?
BTW....are you going to turn down your Social Security and Medicare when you are old enough to apply? Do you think the other 'righties' who bitch all the time will? If not perhaps you need to rethink your position on some things.

You say that as if I'm a repukeinacan...

Most liberals in US politics are socialists and Chicago is run by that group yet have the highest gun fatalities in the country...

 

[dr wu]

You say that as if I'm a repukeinacan...

Most liberals in US politics are socialists and Chicago is run by that group yet have the highest gun fatalities in the country...

Well...you made the socialist comment.....would you like to clarify it then...?