Unofficial Aviation Buff Thread

AD1184

Celestial
There have been some videos in this thread from flight simulators that could catch you out in thinking that they are real. I saved this video a number of years ago of Japan ASDF Phantoms shortly before they were retired, and I think it shows the opposite effect. I always thought that the opening shot of a Phantom coming in to land looks like it is from a simulator and not real life. It is only when the plane gets closer to the ground that it is clear that it is in fact real footage.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB8g_efiKMg
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
And just to do WWII planes justice, here is another unforgettable WW2 bird:

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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Here is an interesting semi-simulation video about a WW3 type of duel between Soviet bombers attacking US carrier group.

Its hard to say how accurate simulation would be, but there were definitely some lessons to be learned. Suffice to say, it was short and intense battle, in which Soviets lost all their naval bombers fleet, while US was left with 10.5 aircraft carrier groups intact:


View: https://youtu.be/OBexH7VuLQA
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I can't help but wonder if carriers will go the way of battleships. Awfully big targets no matter how well defended.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Bob Pardo, Vietnam War pilot famous for Pardo’s Push maneuver, dies at 89

Bob Pardo, Vietnam War pilot famous for Pardo’s Push maneuver, dies at 89​

By
JONATHAN SNYDER
STARS AND STRIPES • December 13, 2023

Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Pardo is known for carrying out an unorthodox aviation maneuver, later coined the Pardo Push, to save the lives of his wingmen during a bombing mission over Vietnam on March 10, 1967.

Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Pardo is known for carrying out an unorthodox aviation maneuver, later coined the Pardo Push, to save the lives of his wingmen during a bombing mission over Vietnam on March 10, 1967. (David Cooper/U.S. Air Force)

Bob Pardo, who left his mark in Air Force history for using an unorthodox maneuver, Pardo’s Push, to save his wingmen’s lives during a bombing mission over Vietnam, died Dec. 5. He was 89.
On March 10, 1967, Pardo and weapons officer 1st Lt. Steve Wayne were on a bombing run on an enemy steel mill north of Hanoi in an F-4C Phantom, flying alongside Capt. Earl Aman and 1st Lt. Robert Houghton.
The target — North Vietnam’s only steel mill dedicated to war materiel — was heavily guarded by anti-aircraft guns and artillery.

During the mission, ground fire damaged both Pardo’s and Aman’s Phantoms, causing both to lose fuel. However, Aman lost too much to return safely to base, and Pardo knew he had to act quickly, according to a 2007 recounting of the mission by Gen. T. Michael Mosely, then the chief of staff of the Air Force.
“I knew if I didn’t do anything, they would have to eject over North Vietnam into enemy territory, and that would have resulted in their capture for sure,” Pardo said in a 2015 interview for the Air Force Veterans in Blue program. “At that time, if you were captured by civilians, you were probably going to be murdered on the spot.”
Pardo decided to push Aman’s plane using the nose of his aircraft against Aman’s tailhook, a retractable hook on the underside of the plane used for arrested landings.
He managed to decrease the rate of descent of Aman’s jet by 1,500 feet per minute, and they successfully reached friendly territory. Both air crews safely ejected over the Laotian border and were rescued by friendly forces.
Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Pardo died Dec. 5 at 89.

Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Pardo died Dec. 5 at 89. (David Cooper/U.S. Air Force)
The Air Force at first reprimanded Pardo for further damaging his aircraft. Twenty years later, he received the Silver Star for his actions in the aerial rescue.
Pardo was born in 1934 in Herne, Texas, and began his Air Force career in 1954 at age 19. After flight school, he flew the Phantom during the Vietnam War, logging 132 flying missions.
He retired as a lieutenant colonel in 1974. In addition to the Silver Star, his awards include the Distinguished Flying Cross with Oak Leaf Cluster, Purple Heart, Air Medal with twelve Oak Leaf Clusters and the Meritorious Service Medal.
Pardo is survived by his wife, Kathryn, whom he married on March 7, 1992, five children and 10 grandchildren.



View: https://youtu.be/RRNbcPS3A9c?t=40
 

Dejan Corovic

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Bob Pardo, Vietnam War pilot famous for Pardo’s Push maneuver, dies at 89

Bob Pardo, Vietnam War pilot famous for Pardo’s Push maneuver, dies at 89​

By
JONATHAN SNYDER
STARS AND STRIPES • December 13, 2023

Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Pardo is known for carrying out an unorthodox aviation maneuver, later coined the Pardo Push, to save the lives of his wingmen during a bombing mission over Vietnam on March 10, 1967.

Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Pardo is known for carrying out an unorthodox aviation maneuver, later coined the Pardo Push, to save the lives of his wingmen during a bombing mission over Vietnam on March 10, 1967. (David Cooper/U.S. Air Force)

Bob Pardo, who left his mark in Air Force history for using an unorthodox maneuver, Pardo’s Push, to save his wingmen’s lives during a bombing mission over Vietnam, died Dec. 5. He was 89.
On March 10, 1967, Pardo and weapons officer 1st Lt. Steve Wayne were on a bombing run on an enemy steel mill north of Hanoi in an F-4C Phantom, flying alongside Capt. Earl Aman and 1st Lt. Robert Houghton.
The target — North Vietnam’s only steel mill dedicated to war materiel — was heavily guarded by anti-aircraft guns and artillery.

During the mission, ground fire damaged both Pardo’s and Aman’s Phantoms, causing both to lose fuel. However, Aman lost too much to return safely to base, and Pardo knew he had to act quickly, according to a 2007 recounting of the mission by Gen. T. Michael Mosely, then the chief of staff of the Air Force.
“I knew if I didn’t do anything, they would have to eject over North Vietnam into enemy territory, and that would have resulted in their capture for sure,” Pardo said in a 2015 interview for the Air Force Veterans in Blue program. “At that time, if you were captured by civilians, you were probably going to be murdered on the spot.”
Pardo decided to push Aman’s plane using the nose of his aircraft against Aman’s tailhook, a retractable hook on the underside of the plane used for arrested landings.
He managed to decrease the rate of descent of Aman’s jet by 1,500 feet per minute, and they successfully reached friendly territory. Both air crews safely ejected over the Laotian border and were rescued by friendly forces.
Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Pardo died Dec. 5 at 89.

Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Pardo died Dec. 5 at 89. (David Cooper/U.S. Air Force)
The Air Force at first reprimanded Pardo for further damaging his aircraft. Twenty years later, he received the Silver Star for his actions in the aerial rescue.
Pardo was born in 1934 in Herne, Texas, and began his Air Force career in 1954 at age 19. After flight school, he flew the Phantom during the Vietnam War, logging 132 flying missions.
He retired as a lieutenant colonel in 1974. In addition to the Silver Star, his awards include the Distinguished Flying Cross with Oak Leaf Cluster, Purple Heart, Air Medal with twelve Oak Leaf Clusters and the Meritorious Service Medal.
Pardo is survived by his wife, Kathryn, whom he married on March 7, 1992, five children and 10 grandchildren.



View: https://youtu.be/RRNbcPS3A9c?t=40

watched that same video just few days ago ;-)
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Loss of that aircraft was such a tragic event for engineering as whole. It was a marvel and I'm sure NASA would find a civilian use for it after it was retired. Just a sheer number of innovations applied on that craft is unbelievable. 5% of lift came from dropping wings down like a swan.
 
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