Will be releasing exact method of UFO propulsion very soon.

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  1. Shadowprophet

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    Yeah, but see what you're telling me is, If it's anything einstein then it's not right, I counter that by saying, If someone doesn't account to general relativity in their understanding of the universe, then they aren't doing physics.

    Math is a language brother, You can say anything with math, Even things that are untrue because it's a language, It's not a set parameter of Truth and empirical authority

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    This is a gravitational force equation

    Fg is the force,
    G is the gravitational constant, So we see Force is equal to the gravitational constant M1 and m2 are the mass of the objects involved, R is the distance between the centers of the objects.

    This is a fairly straight forward gravitational equation, However, It could also describe what a pimp does to hookers who don't pay their money with this equation with very minor changes, This is why applied mathematics are important. You can literally say anything with math. Even untrue things.

    So just because the math checks out, doesn't always mean the thing is possible.

    Physicists use the math to demonstrate how a thing functions. That doesn't mean that they couldn't be mistaken even if the math is perfect. some things may not be physically possible or the assumption about how something is functioning could be misinformed.

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    This one is an equation for time travel, more on that in this link Time Travel It's perfect on paper, Good luck getting it to work though.
     
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  2. Dejan Corovic

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    Stop calling him Morrison, he is our Grand Inquisitor, because of his "unapologetic rationalist" self-branding.

    Of course he's only rational within limits of his own knowledge, like the rest of us.

    What you say is "rubbish in, rubbish out". So no blame on math.

    Now I completely understand where you are coming from. I am no math guy either. My thinking is more similar to policeman's or journalist's. So we both think intuition first, facts later. But you don't understand power of maths. Maths is the mother and father of all rational sciences. Maths gives precision that intuition can't match. With that 'unapologetic' precision one goes and checks on his intuition. If maths says NO than it means NO. That's how you weed out good from bad. But intuition and precision complement each other. One without another fails 100% of time. That's why Einstein worked on GTR 10 years. Intuition gave him a correct general direction, but he made many bad turns and entered into many blind alleys. In each one of these tight spots, math provided clarity that helped him find the way towards final success. If you don't know math, it's not a biggie, just find somebody who does. We all here share Grand Inquisitor.

    For example Jefimenko, that you suggested. What he came up is just a week field limit from GTR. Nothing special, it has been used for ages by GTR scientists. Problem is GTR offers, not just a week field, but non-linear strong field solution for neutron stars and black holes. That's where Jefimenko fails short, which is pity because he's talented scientist.
     
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  3. Thomas R. Morrison

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    This reveals your fundamental problem: you're incapable of simply disagreeing with somebody - in your mind they're a liar if they disagree with you. In reality people earnestly reach different conclusions for myriad reasons without lies ever being a part of it.

    I meant ordinary magnets, like plain old Alnico magnets, which are powerful enough to repel each other against the gravitational acceleration when placed in opposition.

    It's worth a look. Dr. Forward showed us how to produce an antigravitational field in that 1963 paper, using the simplified linearized equations for GR which are applicable in the weak field limit. That proves that everyone who was scoffing at the notion of negative gravitation (aka "antigravity") from 1963 onward, didn't fully understand the physics of GR.

    Or, you're wrong about GR. You don't seem to ever consider that possibility.

    All of this is incorrect - you might be an excellent detective, but theoretical physics is an entirely different animal.

    There are over a dozen radically conflicting interpretations of quantum field theory (i.e. narratives) - nobody knows if any of them are correct, or if all of them are wrong and some better theory will come along one day to resolve its many conceptual paradoxes.

    But it doesn't matter, because the equations are valid - we can test the high-precision predictions provided by the equations and we find that they're correct to the limit of experimental precision.

    But nobody knows how to devise a test to discern which (if any) of the dozen narratives used to interpret the equations are correct. For the engineers it doesn't matter - the equations allow them to successfully design microprocessors and exotic experiments and applications for research and industry.

    Similarly, it doesn't matter if you don't like the narrative of GR; the equations are correct to within our ability to test them at high precision and in a plethora of various domains ranging from gravitational time dilation to the deflection of light to the Shapiro delay to gravitomagnetism and many other effects - all of which are predicted and now verified empirically. And those equations provide a crystal clear understanding of gravitational field propulsion which can be modeled mathematically and engineered accordingly.

    Sure, QFT and GR will one day be supplanted by a better and hopefully all-inclusive physics model. But for now they're the best we've got, and they're sufficient to forge ahead until the next supergenius comes around with a better theory.

    Except that a lot of people lie about their experimental results, and in Hutchison's case, actually produce fraudulent "evidence" to fool the masses for profit. So one has to step carefully, or their crap evidence can contaminate your data stream and send you on wild goose chases for the rest of your life.

    I would love to see a quantum theory of gravity that actually works. Maybe Dr. Alzofon was on the right track, idk, I'm always deeply reluctant to spend money to read about somebody's extravagant claims: fundamental scientific knowledge belongs to humanity imo - it should always be freely provided so we can all move forward together.

    That's wrong. Talk is cheap, but equations either make correct predictions or incorrect predictions, which can be readily tested. Without an equation there's nothing to test against reality. And without empirical study we're dragged back to the Dark Ages, with "faith" in this or that model of reality, collectively enslaved by ignorance. An equation is falsifiable, a narrative isn't; so the latter is intrinsically unscientific.

    Clearly Police Science 101 has nothing to do with Physics 101, because your statement is incorrect: an equation cannot prove the validity of the assumptions used to formulate it. Kurt Godel mathematically proved that the validity of our assumptions are ultimately unknowable. An equation can only predict the outcome of specific experimental and observational conditions. QFT and GR do that with extremely high precision, and yet there are at least a dozen competing interpretations of QFT, and nobody has ever provided a fully axiomatic derivation of GR. But the success of the mathematical predictions provided by the equations remain unrivaled.

    As we see with QFT, all that matters to the engineer is the validity of the equations; the assumptions are irrelevant for the task of designing and producing working devices.

    Nobody here said that. It seems most probable to me that the supremely advanced reactionless propulsion devices that have been reported in our skies for decades, if not centuries, are nonterrestrial technology arriving from other star systems. Far more primitive aerodynamic devices have been proven to exist in various military research programs dating back decades, but their performance was laughable compared to the AAVs frequently seen zigzagging across the skies at thousands of miles per hour.

    As I see it, your rightful outrage over the deeply corrupt political, economic, and social edifices of the current global civilization has spilled over into the sciences as well, and now you're conflating the two - apparently you believe that scientists all around the world are perpetrating some kind of hoax upon the people of the world, to help the psychopathic billionaire corporatist elites maintain power over the people.

    But that goes way too far. Scientists are looking for the truth, and they're constantly looking for flaws in the existing models, and looking for better theoretical models, and testing both constantly. It's by nature an adversarial and messy, incomplete and on-going process - but it does work, which is why we're communicating across a global information network using machines designed and built using quantum field theory, and why everyone with a smartphone can use the GPS system that constantly corrects for the time dilation effects precisely described by the equations of relativity.
     
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  4. Dejan Corovic

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    You just gave up on your Hutchison research too early. So naturally you are taking things out of context. I've compiled whole of his biography, even biographies of people who worked with him just so I can track stages of his life. I transcribed all the videos in which he said anything of engineering or scientific value so I can reconstruct his experiments and the equipment he used. I compiled a list of highly reputable professional and business people who vouched that his experiments were genuine.

    Details by which Hutchison describes his experiments agree down to fine detail with technical details of Dr Alzofon's setup. For example, both of them modulated high frequency microwaves to a sawtooth pattern bellow 1kHz. The only difference is that Hutchison didn't understand what he was doing, so he wastefully scanned the whole parameter space, Dr Alzofon developed working quantitative model an his experiment worked first time, right out of the box.

    With a help of a coleque I now found a third experiment that confirms Hutchison. And possibly fourth.

    To boil it down to simplest possible explanation the way it works is very similar to NMR machine. One is using alignment field to orient billions of atomic nuclei in the same direction. Than he shoots crosswise microwaves at 90 degrees to the alignment field at billions times per second to spin up nuclei's precession. Crosswise microwave field is patterned into sub 1kHz pulses that are either square or sawtooth pulses. These, say sawtooth pulse patterns, are timed so that precessing nuclei can be flipped in and out of alignment with alignment field in what is effectively refrigeration pattern. Practically, one is "cooling" gravity. It's so easy a kid can do it, of course, if it had a budget of about $80-$100k.

    Effectively, one is spining billions of atomic nuclei, billions times per second to erase gravity. Not my idea, Dr Alzofon's.

    One thing that Hutchison discovered, that Dr Alzofon didn't, was that alignment field can be both electric or magnetic. This will be of great help for future engineering because there will be choice according the application.

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    @Thomas R. Morrison, please, did you check private message I've sent you?
     
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  5. Gambeir

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    It wasn't right to call you a liar Morrison. I appologize for having done that.

    I'm also going to go against my better intuition and appologize for having pissed the lot of you off, but I have no choice,
    you leave me no other option. You are all pig headed and arrogant.

    Arrogance breeds stupidity, and there the refusal to acknowledge fudamental flaws has to be the first part in a recovery process, so you can choose to either become part of the reformation or not. I do care. Let me be clear about that. If I didn't care I would not expend the effort I have in leading you to water. However I cannot make you drink those waters. I do care that the choices you are all making is to not become part of the reformation, and to place your thumb print on history, because all of you are very bright people who have had a love affair with this topic all your lives, and so I do care that what I see is that arrogance has created blindness and consequently stupidity. Your opportunity for glory is slipping by and you aren't even aware of it. You're lives are being wasted, even if you yourselves do not yet recognize that just yet, but a reformation is now underway and all that you think is valuable now will fade away into the sands of time.

    The answers to how these machines work can be explained with existing knowledge and without resorting to fantasy. I can do that, but I don't have a motivating reason for doing so, least of all to people blind and arrogant. People whom presume to outwit a detective with bald faced incongruities.
     
  6. Dejan Corovic

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    Nobody here is arrogant. We respect your opinion, but we have ours. You are a good guy, who wants to help. Please stick around.
     
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  7. Gambeir

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    Well that's gracious of you.
    I know we have a new member who is adept and may participate. Tells me he is watching right now. See, there's groups all over working hard on this. I know because I get messages from people. Some have gone off grid, probably because they are getting results but don't understand why. Alexey doesn't understand his own machine and as near as I can tell neither does anyone else. Based on what I have received there's money backing black corporate research groups.

    For example I got a note from the author of this article. Still am entirely clueless who he/she is.
    Evidently known as Mr. Fridge.
    Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge

    There's some notion that whoever solves this can cash in on this but I'm with Corovic that the technology is not that complicated, it's the understanding of what is taking place and how to scale it that is the issue right now. Wheeler has a good theory of operation. He also has developed a physical device based on his own work. Yes, it's not anti-graviy but it does appear it is creating a reaction effect to gravity. I've already posted the video's he made on those devices, now several years old already.
     
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  8. Dejan Corovic

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    @Gambeir thank you for Alexey Chekurkov videos. I wouldn't have never discovered it without you pointing at it.

    @Thomas R. Morrison please check out the whole set of Alexey Chekurkov videos. And pls don't say they are hanging on a string till you complete whole research. This is just intro
     
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  9. Shadowprophet

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    The Biefeld–Brown effect is an electrical phenomenon that produces an ionic wind that transfers its momentum to surrounding neutral particles. It describes a force observed on an asymmetric capacitor when high voltage is applied to the capacitor's electrodes.

    Biefeld–Brown effect - Wikipedia

    You have to accept what this is, No matter what kind of story this guy is telling you about how that thing is lifting, This is a demonstration of the Biefeld–Brown effect... It's ionic wind

     
  10. Dejan Corovic

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    Ionic wind holding 1kg 2lbs up I'm the air? No sparks are visible, no crackling noise? Man is freely walking near the object. and even touching it while its powered.

    Please watch more videos from his channel till you understand full context. Information is meaningless without it's context.
     
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  11. Shadowprophet

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    Please watch more for what? You have the aluminum, you have the electricity, you have the wire. What the heck else is it? Come on bro. I am convinced it's Either a fake video Or the biefeild brown effect. It can't be anything else. Look at the components used. Wire+aluminum+ electricity, What does that make? I will give you guys the benefit of the doubt, I will study this deeply. But that video is misleading people. It's not credible. Chekeurkov is misleading people in these Videos. The deception is in how he explains his process. but I will, I will study this.


    It will be some time before I will be back. I need to go with my wife this morning she is getting an MRI. I will be back sometime today, I think.
     
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  12. Dejan Corovic

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    Exactly, you missed third disk in the middle with rotating magnets, that is shown in other videos.

    Once again lifters can barely lift few grams / ounces. This guy is lifting
    at least 1kg 2lbs. Take that into consideration.
     
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  13. Shadowprophet

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    Don't worry I've been mighty hard on this, I will give anything the benefits of the doubt, I have searched for all the information I can on Alexy Chekurkov. It's hard to empirically condemn something Unless I do search into it,

    But, Let me be a voice of reason, https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,18&q=Alexey+Chekurkov&oq= Google Scholar hasn't heard of the guy, he has Zero Peer Review, This should be considered a huge red flag Yes?

    However, While I'm at the doctor with Sam I will do some research on this guy, I promise. I will be fair about this.
     
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    Yeah, zero peer review by armchair philosopher society. He's experimenter, he has seemingly working experiment.

    I would rather suggest you use your own mind. but outside knee jerk mode . You understand electrodynamics, watch his videos till you reverse engineer his setup, ignore his theories but find equivalent explanation in modern physics. That's what I do and it works.
     
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  15. Gambeir

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    The Alexey is way too heavy for any such contrivance. Don't you think I already know you cannot explain the Alexey? When are you going to realize it?

    Wrong answer.
    I'm quite sure if a freaking Ion could lift a ten pound collection of metal then a lot more things would be flying about, but it can't, OK, I know that and so does this guy; John Iwaszko and if that were possible he would have accomplished that decades ago.
    John R Iwaszko | AurumSolis Technologies - Academia.edu
    AurumSolis Technologies – Inspiring Technological Innovation

    No dude we aren't working with forces from earth here. That's why you're not grocking this.
     
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    My own mind, Rather than the collective input of profound physicists that are actually making a difference in the world, That's what learning is for. That's what scholarly is for,

    Maybe I should use my own mind, Rather then Einstains General relativity? and benefit from his studies

    My own mind, A mind is worth nothing unless you fill it with knowledge. That knowledge is in peer review. Be back later my journey begins.
     
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    OK, almost misread that and was about to lose it again. Well yes, you have to adapt what is accepted so that it can understood by types like yourselves, even if it is entirely wrong and it is, but for now this is the way it has to be. In time you will see.
     
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    Sure Gambier, That's exactly what it is. I'm too close-minded to Shut out those Evil evil scientists that do peer review, and Checkurkov is just too far beyond me to explain, That's what it is.. I mean it's not like I Can't recognize BS when I see it or anything. Look if this was tittley winks or monopoly or a fundraiser for mediocrity, Then I would concede the point, But this is physics, Something I know a little about,

    I have zero doubts Thomas will have this all straightened out by the time I return.
     
  19. Dejan Corovic

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    GTR maths brakes up before getting to quantum level. There will be nothing in peer reviewed literature.

    Only help we have is taking real experiments by quack scientists and than weeding out good from bad with mainstream science.

    Dr Alzofon was mainstream scientist that was refused to be reviewed by peer review system. He submitted they refused. It's catch 22++
     
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  20. Gambeir

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    Shadowprophet, peer review is controlled for a reason. It's not a good thing, it's a bad thing. Just like organized religous courts were bad things. See, evil can only succeed when power is concentrated and that's what peer review does. It puts unelected people in positions of power whom control information. As soon as you do that you've opened the door for abuse of power.

    You guys have half the answer but not all the answer, and you're never going to get the answer fighting against new information. If Einstein made some mistakes then he made mistakes. It only means there's opportunity for you. All knowledge is fluid shadowprophet. Adapt to the changing times.

    If all you're going to do is fight with me then I'm wasting my time right? You're not telling me anything I can't find a thousand other places whereas I'm showing you something you can't find anywhere else. I don't need to waste my time.
     

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