Will be releasing exact method of UFO propulsion very soon.

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  1. Dejan Corovic

    Dejan Corovic Celestial

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    I watched videos again. The critic edited out the part of Alexy Checkurko's original video in which he goes around his UFO with raised hand to prove there is no wire. Essentially critic's video is doing a bit of selective reporting.
     
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  2. Shadowprophet

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    well since it's truth day and we are being perfectly fair here, Gambier you are a moron, I and others have said you were, You spend your time defending theories that have nothing to do with education or science. You set off on grand adventures to gather sheep blindly in your uneducated endeavors of ignorance. I'm glad it's truth Day. Be careful screwing yourself over, Use lube. ;)

    I along with my religious zealously Went to an actual college. Tennesee technological institute. I wonder if you have ever even Been inside a college?

    I didn't start being a Dick movement between us. But I want to make something perfectly clear, You have proven nothing, You have demonstrated nothing, You have fought like a drunk high spoiled child this entire thread. PROVE SOMETHING OR BE PROVEN WRONG. You Can't just throw a pity gambier thread and garner support.

    Yeah, I Believe In God, I also believe in Science, I want to throw this logic your way. I've proven, I understand science, That's something you have "NEVER" been able to do,
    Have A Nice Day, You moronic Jackass. #kisses
     
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  3. Shadowprophet

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    Look gambier, If You Truly understand science, Then Respect the Subject enough to give scientific input, Don't just throw up a video proclaim it's magic and expect others to explain how it works to you.

    Call me a religious zealot as much as you want. I Understand the scientific principle, Hypothesis, Theory, Mathematics, Experimentation. proof. Fact, You have a video with no concept of how the event is transpiring swearing to its authenticity, and when you are backed against the wall, what do you do, You begin insulting peoples intelligence, exactly like an uneducated moron would do.

    Either start giving us science or devolve down into Gurgles and playing with baby rattles, Because so far you have demonstrated ZERO scientific understanding here. This thing and that thing use this metal and that thing and this happens. That is not science... You are insulting to speak to Gambier, And I knew this before I spoke to you, Because I remember why you left to begin with, Because you can't handle being wrong. But I think you are addicted to being wrong, Because IF you liked being right even a little bit. You would back theories that are at least based in science. Look, man, I and you are going nowhere, In this thread alone, I've lost so much respect for you, just because of the way you act. Don't address me anymore Gambier, Im kind of done talking to you, you are a pain in the ass to know.




    And people can take this however they wish. You think Tesla was God and Einstein was an idiot? I say this in empirical truth, That's Complete ignorance, Einstein Built the model that the Current understanding of Physics is based on. If you don't understand GR, You good sir are waste of time scientifically.
     
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  4. Shadowprophet

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    I need to say this, In the bacoground, I've been dealing with the fact that my grandmother passed away three days ago.
    I've been dealing with quite a bit, I was unable to go to her funeral because It was in California and really short notice. I've had other things kind of going on, And I think this thread has been an outlet for some of that.

    I need a break to handle some offline things. I will be back when I get my affairs in order.
    This thread has been great though, "Seriously" I needed a place to argue and vent. I very much did.
     
  5. Dejan Corovic

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    I am 100% for a science and math. I was inspired @Thomas R. Morrison to set aside some time to learn maths behind GTR. It was phenomenal experience getting diper insights into one of most brilliant products of human mind, although I didn't get further than Shwarchild's solution, but it doesn't matter here.

    You and Thomas want peer reviewed scientific papers. Right? But there is a Catch 22. What if mainstream science flatly refuses to peer review your paper? Dr Alzofon was certainly one of the top 100 American scientists, who published at least a half a doesen of peer reviewed scientific papers in the top of the crop US science magazines. But each one of these magazines refused to publish his paper on gravity.

    There is a stolid mainstream culture of refusing to accept any new ideas on gravity. That is why if one is to verify experiments by people like that Russian guy, Alexy Checkurkov, we have no reference to look at. Russian guy's experiment is explainable with Dr Alzofon's theory, which was refused peer review.

    Nobody is disputing that GTR is right on macro scale, but it's a wrong tool for the job on the Nano scale. It's like trying to light up candle with blowtorch, when a match would do a better job. That is why Robert Forward kept coming up up with machines spanning miles, that were made of impossible materials like ones found inside neutron stars. All the while Dr Alzofon experimentally had proven that essentially WW2 technology can adiabatically erase gravity.

    And that's where credit goes to @Gambeir If he could just control his temper and be little more openminded about things that are not his strong suit, he would the one of the best contributors.

    We need to go deep down to the source of gravity, which is most likely the atomic nuclei itself. On the end of the day nuclei is the only practically available material that is made of neutronium. That's where Dr Alzofon's theory comes in and explains all of these alternative science machines, like Hutchison, Searl etc. Each one of these machines can be explained by Dr Alzofon's adiabatic gravitational cooling. Dr Alzofon might had been the first to formulate full theory Quantum Theory of Gravity.

    That's why I am trying to organise repeat of Dr Alzofon's otherwise successful experiment.
     
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  6. Shadowprophet

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    You have to understand a lot of my response was just in regard to Gambiers tone, I don't want to insult the topic itself, I've been reading up on this and I admit it is a fascinating topic. I've been unable to hold my composure with Gambier Because I need that right now, at this stage in whats going on in my life, I need a really great argument to take my mind off things.


    For Now, I need a break, my mother called me this morning, I am apparently in my grandmother's will and Now, I need to go see a lawyer. I have no idea what it's all about, But, It's been strange, Trying times for me, And To be fair, I was looking for an argument, It's as much my fault as Gambeirs, And I have no regrets.. Sigh, No matter what I do to escape reality, It's just not possible to do so, I don't expect people to understand, But, Being in her will. Is not a joyous thing for me, I have always felt to receive something from someone who has passed away is nearly meaningless because those things won't bring that person back, Emotions are hard for me to deal with, I'm not very good at it.
     
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  7. Dejan Corovic

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    Please read Dr Alzofon's book to get your mind of your troubles. Your insights will never be complete without knowing what is it about.

    By the way I am going through something similar.
     
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    I'm sorry to hear that Brother, If I knew of any way to help, I will do my best to help you, Know that you aren't alone in this... Also, Yes, I will read this book. It's exactly what I need to get my mind off things, Thank you bro :)
     
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  9. Kchoo

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    "It's hard to push a spear through a tree. Easier to turn the tree into another spear."
     
  10. Gambeir

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    Sorry for leaving you hanging but I'm not here to rehash a decade of investigation or to argue with people who have zero training in criminal investigation and crime detection. You can read my posts on my thread at Energetic Forums and Everything I know that I think is worthy I put in my posts on that site. Your group is hardly the only one out there in the wilds, but it is one which if it had the right direction does have the technical and mathematical capability to bring about a new age. I certainly would like that and I'm sure others would too.

    Whether or not the Alexey device is real or a fraud is almost unimportant. At worst the device is a truth telling message; a shot across the bow of the ruling elites of the Western Crime Cabal. It doesn't need to be a working device to communicate that message and that's what needs to be recognized. Therefore, assuming that the device doesn't even work still tells us that there are parts to the operation, as depicted, which contain critically important concepts, and which it would have to have to act as a warning shot. This assuming that the whole series of video's are carefully engineered frauds: Something I rather doubt. It is simply a happy accidental discovery by an inquisitive individual and which is the history of human progress in a nutshell.

    It is interesting that whenever any such lucky soul makes a discovery which seems to violate the officially approved version of reality that they are immediately attacked as heritics by the elastical courts gate keepers. You're living in the dark ages and don't even know it.

    I described the system of operation of the Alexey based on what I think I understand. The device's operation is of less importance than the path it directs us to follow. Remember that you people are not trained investigators, and despite an education in technocracy you're entirely unqualified to judge whether or not what you're working with are real facts or fictional constructs made to look like facts, but it is my opinion that you've been working with fictional constructs for so long, that this recent assault upon the citadel of science brings with it a complete terror. For it is fearful to suspect that everything you thought you understood is in error and quite possibly the result of a willfully constructed criminally intentioned plot, but to fear that is a serious mistake: Do not let the fear of truth impede judgement.

    It is unlikely that your team happens to include an investigator who just happens to also be questioning the scientific assumptions your team is working with as potentially part of a complex conspiracy to prevent the escape of truth, and whom also is looking at the evidence, historical and otherwise, and which tells an entirely different story. Like almost every other criminal invention the truth is denied while every manner of inventive lies is put forward to garner support for the lies told. This is nothing new to the police. It's just not a concept an academic in science would consider possible, and yet this is something which has been considered by others in other fields such as history, and if history can be changed and molded then why not any other thing?

    Follow the evidence and let it tell the story. Let history be your first guide in following the evidence. Isn't that what every policeman would do? The world is full of people who will not accept that their child is a monster. Who will deny overwhelming evidence with every manner of construct the obvious facts. That's all this is, it's denial in the face of overwhelming evidence, and above all, for the aware at least, it proves that the constructs of Einstein were undoubtedly crafted by skilled hands. Some of whom the seasoned investigator will easily recognize through the lens of history. Some never sold out like Tesla, others like J.J. Thompson were bought out, and some were flat out black mailed like Philo Farnsworth. These things are manifest to any seasoned criminal investigator. Not even worthy of debate except to the gullible and the naive. It is noteworthy that no one less than the legendary SS Obersturmbannf├╝hrer Otto Skorzeny made a deathbed confession, considered fact in law BTW, that he himself, toghether with Reinhard Gehlen, murdered Tesla by strangulation in his apartment, after which the FBI swept in and carted off what is reportedly to have been over 80 crates of documents, of which there is but a handful that they now supposedly claim to hold. That's probably true because it is probable that those crates never even went to the FBI in the first place, and that's assuming the people who were there were actually FBI agents to begin with, and let's not even begin to address the character in charge of the FBI. This just being one of the true micro-stories buried within the web of deceit.

    Honestly, sometimes trying to get the average person to follow their way out of mind control is like trying to herd cats using a class of kindergardner's as ranch hands. Anyways, there's nothing here I can or will discuss with others, nor do I need to, the evidence is overwhelming that the solution has been known for a very long time and all we are doing now is unraveling the past lies that have kept humanity caged for the last century.

     
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  11. Dejan Corovic

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    This is repost from another thread. Just want to update ppl who are following this thread.


    Yeah, it is a heartbreaking story for me, I lost my electronics lab and will be unable to try anything for at least six months or more.

    But, somewhat luckily, I found an another man, by the name of Floyd Sweet, who successfully performed exactly the same experiment as Dr Alzofon's in a thousand times cheaper setup. Two men both worked back in 80's, never knew of each other and experiments work on exactly the same larger principle. So experimental proof is there, we just need to prove it for ourselves.

    The larger principle seems to be, in the shortest form, that gravity is based on entanglement and if one stops particles from entangling each other gravity and inertia go to zero. Preventing entanglement is the same as preventing quantum decoherence and because that can be done with a whole macroscopic object one ends up with quantum object the size of a classical object.

    I dug up 3, or even 4, experiments which stopped entanglement and produced macroscopic quantum objects: Dr Alzofon's, Floyd Sweet's and US Navy patent US20190058105A1. So far it seems that entanglement can be stopped in two ways: by NMR style precession of atomic nuclei (like @spacecase0, Dr Alzofon & Floyd Sweet did) and by super fast mechanical acceleration of conductors with ultrasound as in US20190058105A1 patent.

    And 4th would be a member of this forum @spacecase0 and experiment described in an AE thread a curious device His device behaved exactly as macroscopic quantum object.

    As Dr Alzofon explained, the key with nuclear precession method is hitting it on Larmor frequency, the frequency of nuclear precession. Floyd Sweet was an electric engineer and he did the same, by luck or by smart observation. He reported almost complete loss of weight on the sample during the experiment. Additionally, there would be significant freezing exactly as Dr Alzophone suggested. And it seems that whole system becomes an open system and starts sucking in energy from the whole environment around but I cannot explain that and Dr Alzofon never mentioned it.

    Here is the overview of Floyd Sweet's very simple setup:

    In a shortest short, what he is showing in that video is mini NMR machine. Basically you have three coils on XYZ axis. On X axis you have coil with static magnetic field, on Y-axis you have a coil with sinusoidal AC current and on z-axis you have a pickup coil in NMR setup, nothing in Dr Alzofon's setup or in Sweet's setup an output coil. All three XYZ coils are wrapped around barium ferrite brick. Static field on the X-axis alignes all the atomic nuclei, sinusoidal field on the Y-axis starts precession of atomic nuclei around X-axis and coil on Z is either used for making NMR imaging, or overunity according to Sweet.

    The reason why NMR people never picked up nether weight loss nor over unity is because they just do a single pulse and then they look for an EM bounce of the nuclei to make their image. Both Dr Alzofon and Sweet are actually using continuous EM waves on Y-axis to provoke precession resonance of nuclei that lasts for indefinite duration of time.

    Trick is that Sweet kept frequency off operation secret, to be able to comercialise the opportunity, but Dr Alzofon didn't. And frequency is Larmor frequency. Hundreds of people tried to repeat Sweet's experiment, but failed because they did not understand that experiment was based on a Nuclear Magnetic Resonance or NMR. Here I wrote short instructions how to calculate Larmor frequency for the particular element in periodic table that you want to try it on. Sweet achieved it with only 10 Volts at 0.3 micro Amperes at mains frequency of 60Hz. Dr Alzofon used Aluminium nanoparticles, while Sweet used barium ferrite which is a compound with 12 atoms of iron.

    Technologically speaking this was all achievable in early 50s because NMR was discovered in 1946. If this investigation of mine works out all the way to a string off successful experiments, then amateur scientists are up for giving the mainstream scientists good run for their money.
     
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    Here is another US Navy patent, from the same author, describing a different implementation, based on the same principle as Dr Alzofon's but called macroscopic quantum coherence US10322827B2. I like the way guy explains things that makes them easy to understand.
     
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    Just an update.

    As I am now learning new things about NMR there is actually an Einstein's paper broadly talking about spontaneous emission of photons from a material during nuclear resonance.

    That would mean that if UFOs are using nuclear resonance to achieve lift, material they are made of will actually produce a coherent monochromatic light. Just a possibility. But envelope of bright light was observed many times around UFOs and with changing colours and changing intensity. So Dr Alzofon's apporoach would actually explain extreme UFO luminosity as well.
     
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    if anyone is curious,
    there are a few ways to get to this macroscopic quantum effect,
    if you want the most direct way, look at the MAGVID idea, it has the field forces very clear so you easily see what is required.
    the NMR is almost the same field fores,
    and from data we see, it seems like some of the UFOs are doing an NMR thing, only they are using the electrons, protons, or neutrons directly.
    the navy patent is a slightly more round about method, but makes it possible with more low tech hardware.
    the device I made had the correct format, but did not know what was going on at the time, and I don't think it made it very consistently

    I use to dismiss quantum physics ideas,
    now I get that there is lots more in this topic to be learned.
    the idea of a large scale quantum item had occurred to me before as I knew that I was playing with one,
    but it would seem as if I did not really think about the significance of it at the time.
     
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