CasualBystander
Celestial
More confusion.So hypothetically a visitor, or visitors kids, or one of your kids friends, who perhaps has no interest or background or training in guns could pick it up. You don't think unsecured weapons are a risk obviously. But why is this any different for example for me not securing say an huge excavation for a building site that may have a big hole. This puts others at risk and is my responsibility to secure. You say you are a responsible gun owner, I find it hard to understand how unsecured loaded weopans are not a danger.
Wow, I don't even know how to respond to that one.
So...
You can't see any argument that says if you were to remove (As Australia did) all the semi Automatics, all the handguns, and really tighten up your gun laws. With no semi automatic weapons available, mass shootings would be lessened.
Yes but that is unrelated to the fact that we have not had a mass shooting since 1996, because it is very very difficult in Australia for the average non gun licensed person to even gain access to a gun, let alone something capable of killings of the nature we see in the US. Of course criminals will always have access to guns, I agree. But a lot of your mass killings are from just normal folks who lose the plot and have an environment like it appears your house is where they can just go grab an unsecured gun and boom.
Here in Australia, someone who is say not part of the criminal element, just your average person next door, would be far far more likely to be nailed by the police if they went hunting for an unlicensed gun just by asking around, long before they found one. And with our laws about securing weapons in locked cabinets, there is no way if say one of my sons went crazy could come home and gain access to my guns. I have them locked in a cabinet like below. the ammunition is in the locked upper section, which has separate keys to the main door.I don't store the keys for each section in the same location and no one knows where I put them anyway. When I was married, not even my wife knew. One son did as he was a licensed gun owner and shared the gun cabinet space.
The cabinet is Dyna bolted to the concrete through the bottom, and coach bolted to the wall through the back.
How is this small compromise that keeps your weapons safe and secure an infringement on your rights.
To most people I imagine it makes a lot of sense to secure guns.
This is a bit of an uneducated statement, but viewing from afar, it seems to me that your trained military personnel have stricter control, tighter regulations and more respect for guns than the average American. And your military folks do guns for a living and receive more training in there safe use than anyone.
Doesn't this hint at something in the back of your mind about your gun laws.
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The US has 333+ million people. Australia has about 24 million. The US has 13+ (13.8) times the population. US has several states with larger populations than Australia.
Australia is Florida and a little bit of Georgia.
There should be 1/13 or less incidents in Australia.
Eliminating weapons won't stop it.
There are alternative ways to kill people. Europe is having fun with trucks.
Australia just doesn't have a large enough population to have enough people in one spot to be worth killing.
The US is as big as Europe. Europe as a whole seems to have more attacks than we do.
Further, in Australia they try to burn people to death.
The US has had about 93 "mass killing" incidents since 2000. Australia according to wiki has 11. That would be the equivalent of about 153 in the US.