Alec Baldwin Accidentally Shoots and Kills Someone

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
If Baldwin had used some common sense and took a look at what may or may now have been loaded in the chamber, then maybe she would still be alive...I know I would have done that if someone handed me a weapon to look at or fire...I would check to see what was loaded if anything at all...

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You might also think that the person that handed him the weapon would have already explained that every firearm is loaded until you check yourself
 

nivek

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After Baldwin's charged again, fake-Spanish Hilaria parades for the paps in fishnets - and Alec demands a speedy trial to suit him... is there no indignity this malignant couple WON'T exploit?

MAUREEN CALLAHAN: After Baldwin's charged again, fake-Spanish Hilaria parades for the paps

Two days after news broke that Alec Baldwin will be re-charged with involuntary manslaughter in the accidental shooting death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, his fake-Spanish wife Hilaria took to the streets of New York, scantily-clad in 30-degree weather. Truly, there is no indignity that these two won't exploit. All attention is good attention to the Baldwins, it seems. And so, with snow still on the ground, Hilaria paraded for the paparazzi, a cohort her husband otherwise hates. She wore a tiny black mini-skirt, fishnet tights, patent leather stiletto heels, a metallic motorcycle jacket slung over her shoulders, a T-shirt emblazoned with the cartoon superhero 'She-Ra, Princess of Power' - clearly how she sees herself - and ridiculous, ski-goggle sized eyewear. It was a demented, dated replay of early-aughts staged pap strolls.

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nivek

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Alec Baldwin HAD to have pulled the trigger of the gun that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, FBI firearms experts testifies in Rust armorer trial, as he reveals he had to break the gun with a MALLET to make it fire any other way

FBI firearms expert Bryce Ziegler gave evidence during the trial of Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, 26, on Monday. Ziegler's assessment challenges Alec Baldwin's claim that he never pulled the trigger of the gun that shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead. Gutierrez-Reed is accused of involuntary manslaughter and is also facing a charge of tampering with evidence. She and Baldwiin both face maximum sentences of 18 months in prison.

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Rick Hunter

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Alex is still enjoying special judicial treatment due to his wealth and celebrity. Far as I know he was never cuffed and shoved into a cop car. This prosecution has had more stops and starts than a delivery truck even though everybody agrees on almost all the facts. An ordinary person would have been arrested the day it happened, indicted for reckless homicide or maybe even manslaughter by the next grand jury, and probably had to take a deal with at least five years on the shelf and a few to serve. Hell, that person may have already served out with max good behavior credits by now.
 

pigfarmer

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Alec Baldwin HAD to have pulled the trigger of the gun that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, FBI firearms experts testifies in Rust armorer trial, as he reveals he had to break the gun with a MALLET to make it fire any other way

FBI firearms expert Bryce Ziegler gave evidence during the trial of Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, 26, on Monday. Ziegler's assessment challenges Alec Baldwin's claim that he never pulled the trigger of the gun that shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead. Gutierrez-Reed is accused of involuntary manslaughter and is also facing a charge of tampering with evidence. She and Baldwiin both face maximum sentences of 18 months in prison.

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That is what I have been saying, I think I even posted a 'how to check your Single Action Army' article. I think that handgun has or needs all of 7 parts for it to work.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I read that in court the armorer's text messages reveals she was out smoking weed the night before.

The pot by itself is harmless, if the entire production crew was stoned what difference would it make? But the armorer - the one who is being paid specifically to keep track of the guns - has a level of responsibility that should be held to a different standard. You'd think for the duration of the gig she could've has a cleanout. I wonder how they found her and why they hired her. Apparently her father was also an armorer.
 

nivek

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'Whip it out': Alec Baldwin insisted on using a real weapon because he loved the feel of 'hero props' and nobody could stand up to him because he was the 'big boss', Rust crew member tells court

Baldwin, the jury heard, preferred to use real guns rather than rubber ones. He loved the feel of the 'hero props.' The trial of Rust armourer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was shown chilling footage of Baldwin pulling the weapon out in the same spot where he killed Halyna Hutchins just hours later. In the footage Baldwin can be heard saying he was going to 'whip it out' even though the scene only called for him to show the handle.

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Yup, this is exactly what I thought the first time I heard of this incident. Baldwin's ego and the armorer's lack of the proper skills and enough common sense or remove herself are what killed that woman. IMO negligent homicide.


Baldwin, the lead actor and one of the producers, told the crew to ‘move, move, move’ and nobody stood up to him because he was the ‘big boss’, the jury heard.

According to Addiego, armourers were typically some of the ‘most uptight and anal retentive people on set because they literally have people’s lives in their hands’. He said: ‘They don’t joke around, they stick to themselves and focus on the task at hand

Addiego said that typically the armourer would allow the cast and crew to look down the barrel of the gun before loading the ammunition in front of them.
 

pigfarmer

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‘Rust’ Set Footage Shows Alec Baldwin Rushing the Crew, Saying: ‘One More! Right Away! Let’s Reload!’

‘Rust’ Set Footage Shows Alec Baldwin Rushing the Crew, Saying: ‘One More! Right Away! Let’s Reload!’​


By Gene Maddaus

Alec Baldwin in Western wear on the set of Rust.


Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office

SANTA FE, N.M. — The director called “action,” and Alec Baldwin emerged from a wooden shed and advanced toward the camera, firing shots from an old pistol. As soon as he heard “cut,” the actor wanted to do the take again.
“One more! One more! One more! Right away!” Baldwin shouted. “Let’s reload!”
Hannah Gutierrez Reed, the film’s 24-year-old armorer, hurried to put more blanks into his gun. Baldwin was visibly impatient. “Here we go! C’mon,” he said. “We should have two guns and both we’re reloading.”
Gutierrez Reed is now on trial for a fatal accident that occurred later on the set of “Rust.” On Thursday morning, jurors saw outtakes from the film, in which Baldwin could be seen using his pistol to point as he gave instructions to the crew.

The videos — seen publicly for the first time — are likely to be played again at Baldwin’s manslaughter trial in July. Both he and the armorer are accused of criminal negligence in the death of the film’s cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins.
Prosecutors have alleged that Baldwin is responsible both for firing the gun that killed Hutchins, and for management failures in his role as a producer. Baldwin’s defense has argued that he was a “creative” producer and was not in a supervisory role.
Kari Morrissey, one of two special prosecutors, played the videos during the questioning of Bryan Carpenter, a veteran armorer who is serving as the state’s expert witness. Carpenter testified that a series of behind-the-scenes videos showed numerous lapses in gun safety.
In several videos, a stuntman could be seen walking around with a shotgun pointed up — failing to maintain “muzzle discipline.” In another, the stuntman spun around with the gun pointed up, and then handed the gun to a child actor. He faulted Gutierrez Reed for failing to intervene or take the shotgun away.
In other scenes, Gutierrez Reed could be seen holding a shotgun upright by the barrel. Carpenter also said that when Baldwin was trying to speed up the reloading of the pistol, she should have slowed things down.
“Rushing with firearms and telling someone to rush with firearms is not normal nor accepted,” Carpenter testified. “In a situation like that, when you’re getting rushed to that extent, that’s when safety starts to fall by the wayside.”
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Bryan Carpenter, the state’s firearms expert, testifies during Hannah Gutierrez-Reed’s involuntary manslaughter trial at the First Judicial District Courthouse in Santa Fe on Thursday, Feb. 29, 2024.Gabriela Campos/The New Mexican
In another take, Baldwin could be seen lying on his back on the ground, while holding a pistol. He gestured with the gun, explaining to the crew how he was going to get up and fire.


“I don’t want to shoot toward you,” Baldwin said. “I’m going to shoot close to you.”
Asked if he saw anything wrong with the clip, Carpenter said: “He’s using the weapon as a pointing stick.”
At one point, Gutierrez Reed could be heard off-screen warning the crew: “Everyone in the path of the gun please move.”
Carpenter said it appeared that Gutierrez Reed was avoiding addressing the issue with Baldwin.
“She was attempting to not correct Mr. Baldwin, but to try to make the crew move in a more safe position,” Carpenter said.
On cross-examination, the armorer’s lawyer, Jason Bowles, noted that she was just starting out in the business, and was not even in the union yet. He asked if it would be hard for her to rein in an A-list actor like Baldwin.
“It would be a difficult situation,” Carpenter said.
Carpenter also testified that the production should have had two armorers. Gutierrez Reed was the only armorer, and was splitting her time between that and her role as prop assistant.
But the expert also testified that once she accepted the job, Gutierrez Reed took on the responsibility for others’ lives.
“If that is not something you feel capable of doing, you should never step into the position of doing it,” he said. “You have to be prepared to go home.”
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David Halls, first assistant director on Rust, uses his hand to resemble a gun to recreate a gesture that Alec Baldwin used while on set the day the Halyna Hutchins was killed.Gabriela Campos/The New Mexican
David Halls was the first assistant director on “Rust,” and the person ultimately responsible for safety on set. He pleaded no contest last year to a misdemeanor charge of negligent handling of a weapon, and served six months of unsupervised probation.
He took the stand on Thursday afternoon, and painted a different portrait of the “Rust” set. He said that until Hutchins was shot, he believed it was safe.
He said that Gutierrez Reed was diligent, and seemed confident and knowledgeable about firearms. He also said that she always checked guns with him before they were used in scenes, as required by industry safety protocols.
And he defended Baldwin, saying that the actor’s conduct on the videos didn’t raise safety concerns for him.
“I don’t characterize that as Mr. Baldwin rushing people,” Halls said. “I characterize it as an actor in his moment — ‘I’m ready. OK, let’s go.’ There was never Mr. Baldwin rushing anybody.”
Halls was also asked about two accidental discharges of blank rounds, which occurred a few days before Hutchins’ death. That incident raised concerns for many of the crew, and led complaints. Bowles asked Halls what he had done about it.
“I didn’t do anything,” Halls acknowledged. “When Blake’s long gun went off, I said, ‘What the F is going on in there?’ He replied, ‘It just went off.'”
Halls has been accused of handing Baldwin his Colt .45 just before Hutchins was shot. That would be a violation of safety rules that allow only the armorer and the actor to handle a weapon. On the stand, Halls denied handing it off, saying that Gutierrez Reed handed it directly to Baldwin.


Halls gave the same account in a December 2022 deposition for the New Mexico Occupational Safety and Health Bureau.
Halls has acknowledged from the beginning that he failed to fully check the gun before it was handed to Baldwin, saying he only saw the back of three or four dummy rounds when Gutierrez Reed rotated the chamber for him.
Morrissey asked Halls why he had chosen to plead to a criminal charge.
“I was negligent in checking the gun properly,” he said.
Halls was three feet away from Hutchins when the gun went off. He became emotional when he described turning to Hutchins to ask if she was all right.
“She said, ‘I can’t feel my legs,'” Halls said, wiping his eyes with a tissue.
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A teary-eyed David Halls takes a moment to collect himself after recounting the moments following the accidental shooting of Halyna Hutchins.Gabriela Campos/The New Mexican

In the chaos that followed, Halls found the armorer and demanded that she open up the chamber to show what was inside. He testified that she pulled out five dummies and one spent casing — the remnant of a live round.
Asked why he had decided to testify, Halls said he wanted to set the record straight.
“It’s important to me that the truth be known — that Halyna’s husband and son, her family, know the truth of what happened,” he said. “It’s important that the cast and the crew and the producers of ‘Rust’ know what happened. And it’s important that the industry, the motion picture and television industry, knows what happened so that this never happens again.”
After the shooting, Halls retired from the industry.

 

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I read that in court the armorer's text messages reveals she was out smoking weed the night before.

The pot by itself is harmless, if the entire production crew was stoned what difference would it make? But the armorer - the one who is being paid specifically to keep track of the guns - has a level of responsibility that should be held to a different standard. You'd think for the duration of the gig she could've has a cleanout. I wonder how they found her and why they hired her. Apparently her father was also an armorer.
Reminds me of something I've learned about from watching aviation Youtubers, particularly Mentour Pilot, one of my favorites. There is what is known as the "sterile cockpit rule", which requires the flight crew to focus on their jobs and nothing else any time they are below 10,000 feet. Seems like a really good idea.

"Commonly known as the "sterile cockpit rule," these regulations specifically prohibit crew member performance of non-essential duties or activities while the aircraft is involved in taxi, takeoff, landing, and all other flight operations conducted below 10,000 feet MSL, except cruise flight."
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I agree with the verdict - she could've quit. Easier said than done I know but that's the truth and somebody's dead. As producer Alec Baldwin deserves - at a minimum - a gross negligence charge, or something along those lines. He still has blood on his hands
 

J Randall Murphy

Trying To Stay Awake
What I'm gathering as the case continues is that there's this prevailing attitude among people in charge that they want everything done perfectly under high pressure deadlines — just check how many job listings are worded in a similar fashion. However that expectation is completely unrealistic. You don't get the highest quality without compromising time, and that quality includes safety. I've worked many jobs where the higher-up are pushing constantly for faster at the expense of safety — so I quit, and in two instances ( that I know of ), people were later killed.

The blame goes all the way back to the staffing recruiters who include these unrealistic expectations in their job postings. So people fudge their credentials and lie to get the positions, which in-turn insulates the bosses from blow-back when it comes time to fire or discipline workers for failing to live-up to the expectations of the job. I've run across numerous job postings where the description is setting-up anyone who gets the job for failure, and then the employer fires them before they start having to pay Employment Insurance or provide any benefits.

It's unethical and despicable, but it goes on every day, and sooner or later, this is the sort of thing that happens.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I may be wrong but in this case the young woman's dad was a famous Hollywood armorer and that may be how she found her profession and landed the job. She does not seem to be experienced. How and why she was chosen for this job, who else may have been considered for it are interesting questions. I can understand that and inexperienced person can be steamrolled by forceful personalities already well familiar with their own role.

On the production side you'd think they would see this, see who they are dealing with.

On her side the best route was out if she were in over her head, but objectively many of lack the capacity to do that and can't blame her if that were the case. But off smoking pot during this even off hours was bad, and it seems she had three full hours to check over the ammo and equipment in advance and didn't do so.
 

nivek

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Alec Baldwin 'wants Hollywood pals to testify in his defense' in trial over fatal shooting of film's cinematographer Halyna Hutchins ... after armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed convicted of involuntary manslaughter

Alec Baldwin is looking into having a potential list of actors testify in his upcoming manslaughter trial in the fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the New Mexico set of the Western film Rust on October 21, 2021.

Insiders close to the case told TMZ on Thursday that Oscar-nominated actor, 65, and his team are 'considering putting together a list of famous people' who would take the stand in his defense, as in January, he entered a not guilty plea to involuntary manslaughter.

The latest development in Baldwin's case comes a day after a New Mexico jury deliberated less than three hours before convicting armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, 26, of involuntary manslaughter in Hutchins' death.

Gutierrez-Reed was swiftly taken into custody after the verdict was read, as she awaits sentencing, facing up to 18 months in prison.

The 30 Rock actor and his team are specifically looking to build a witness list of 'people who've already spoken out in Alec's defense,' insiders told the outlet.


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So... famous people have some superpower that makes their statements somehow relevant even though they were nowhere near the scene of the shooting? Is he thinking something like, I'ma gonna git a bunch of my famous buddies to come down and intimidate the shit out of that court? Does he really think he can dazzle the jury into letting him off?
 

nivek

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Alec Baldwin wants to be let off the hook in the 'Rust' manslaughter case, because he claims prosecutors rigged Grand Jury that indicted him

Actor Alec Baldwin is asking to be let off the hook in the 'Rust' manslaughter case, claiming prosecutors rigged the jury process in the case.

The 65-year-old and his attorney Alex Spiro have filed new legal documents, seen by TMZ, where he asks to have his case thrown out.

Baldwin and Spiro argue that the grand jury process was rigged by the Santa Fe County D.A.'s office, alleging that they add 7 witnesses who were biased.

The filing reportedly adds that three of the witnesses were on the DA's payroll, two of them were from Santa Fe Sheriff's Office and one was suing him in a civil case.

It is also alleged that the FBI tested the pistol used in the fatal scene that killed Halyna Hutchins, and that the DA failed to present all the evidence from the testing.

The documents allege that the testing showed that the revolver did fire without the trigger being pulled when fully loaded, just as they were on the day of the tragedy.

During the trial of Hannah Gutierrez-Reed earlier this year, agent Bryce Ziegler said he had to break the gun with a mallet to get it to fire without using the trigger.


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