Ancient Remains of Giant Petrified Trees?

August

Metanoia
Perhaps today but what about 65 million years ago?...What do you think the herbivorous dinosaurs ate?...There had to be large enough numbers of these dinos to keep the species alive, so it's safe to assume there were large enough numbers of these beasts to feed...

Big dinosaurs giant trees .
 

nivek

As Above So Below
The rocks in the background look like a fallen giant tree .

To me it's more than looks like, I believe it is a large petrified tree...I've seen similar before first hand...
 

August

Metanoia
Actually fossilized wood can bring in some cash. I live near the Florentine Valley where you can find shattered remnants of the ancient forests ranging from very large pieces to tiny fragments. You can get about $20 for a decent chunk of it. I got a shed full I have found up there.
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Gambeir

Celestial
Well ya know, evidently this idea of giant trees in prehistoric times began circulating the net about 2 years ago, though this is the first time I'd run in to the idea. I do agree with Nivek that this image below looks like and is more logically seen as part of a fossilized tree than a pile of rocks.

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Much of what has been passed off as knowledge of pre~history isn't any more logical or scientific than the alternative explanation. I've written about the problems with dinosaurs elsewhere, but the primary problem is one of gravity, for
dinosaurs, the really big ones like a Brontosaurus, meaning "thunder lizard," simply can not survive in our present gravity.

This is where movies like Jurassic Park took license and ignored what I'm sure the technical expert advisors to those films already knew, and so you have to think that when a film like Jurassic Park shows a Brontosaurus in it they are doing that knowing that species would not be able to be revived even if we can or later are able to re~create their genetic code.

This bibliotecapleyades link extensively examines the issues.
Dinosaurs and The Gravity Problem
 

Gambeir

Celestial
How Tall Can Trees Grow?

Not to burst your bubble but the maximum tree height is in the 400-425 foot range.

How tall can a tree grow?

This one says 453 feet.

So either way it is less than 500 feet.

The devil's tower (for example) exceeds maximum tree height.

The tallest known tree is about 375 feet (a California Redwood).

The discussion is supposed to be about a possible unknown past history which included trees of great size.

The idea behind the thread is to question. It isn't to post pictures of stones that resemble a penis. It isn't to cite facts everyone knows about contemporary flora and fauna. It is to question the reality of the world we know and have been told about. Could you please confine yourself to the topic at hand.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
I have to say that this is almost more disturbing than anything else I've yet come across. As a kid I saw the giant trees being cut down and hauled on logging trucks. Today no child has any idea, nor would they even believe what I saw as a child; a single log bigger than the Kenworth that was hauling it. It's truly sickening to think about, but this, this is something even more disturbing. I've been looking in to this for a few days and frankly I'm horrified to think there could once have been tree's towering ten miles high: What are actually being told in films like Avatar?


i have stumbled on this theory before and i must say i aint amused, its the brainchild of a cranck that says he has a mudfossil university, in fact its all a classic case of pareidolia
also did you look at that site i sent you?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
The devil's tower (for example) exceeds maximum tree height.

The tallest known tree is about 375 feet (a California Redwood).

Perhaps in this period of time but what about millions of years ago when dinosaurs were their largest?...I doubt animals can get as big as dinosaurs without the plant life also being extremely large as well supporting that large animal life...
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Perhaps in this period of time but what about millions of years ago when dinosaurs were their largest?...I doubt animals can get as big as dinosaurs without the plant life also being extremely large as well supporting that large animal life...
An elephant will spend 12-18 a day eating and consume 100's of pounds of food per day. Large dinosaurs must have spent even more time eating.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
An elephant will spend 12-18 a day eating and consume 100's of pounds of food per day. Large dinosaurs must have spent even more time eating.

The average elephant now weights about 6 tons whilst a brachiosaurus weighed about 50 tons in average and they were not the only large herbivores on the planet at the time...If elephants ate hundreds of pounds of plant material then these brachiosaurus ate thousands of pounds of plants...The plant life needed to be extremely large to support these massive animals and also be able to rejuvenate and grow more plant life to continue supporting them...
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
Perhaps today but what about 65 million years ago?...What do you think the herbivorous dinosaurs ate?...There had to be large enough numbers of these dinos to keep the species alive, so it's safe to assume there were large enough numbers of these beasts to feed...

The Problem with Big Dinosaurs

Although the article is skeptical...

A Brachiosaurus is built like a giraffe. Presumably it fed like a giraffe.

I'm going with - there was a set of muscles in its neck that caused rhythmic constriction to pump blood to its brain - like watching a snake move.
 
As someone who deals with trees I can assure you this is not true. Trees grow tall when stacked together but once they've outgrown their competition they grow out not up. There is absolutely no reason to grow 10 miles high let alone 1 mile. The tallest tree in the history of the world was probably no more than 1500 feet tall and that's a stretch.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
As someone who deals with trees I can assure you this is not true. Trees grow tall when stacked together but once they've outgrown their competition they grow out not up. There is absolutely no reason to grow 10 miles high let alone 1 mile. The tallest tree in the history of the world was probably no more than 1500 feet tall and that's a stretch.

Trees grow differently now than 100 million years ago or even further in the past...The earth was a much different place, one cannot attribute the same conditions for trees now as they were in the past...

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CasualBystander

Celestial
As someone who deals with trees I can assure you this is not true. Trees grow tall when stacked together but once they've outgrown their competition they grow out not up. There is absolutely no reason to grow 10 miles high let alone 1 mile. The tallest tree in the history of the world was probably no more than 1500 feet tall and that's a stretch.
Tallest tree was under 500 feet.

Would have to revise tree physiology to get over 500 feet.
 
Trees grow differently now than 100 million years ago or even further in the past...The earth was a much different place, one cannot attribute the same conditions for trees now as they were in the past...

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Tallest tree was under 500 feet.

Would have to revise tree physiology to get over 500 feet.

Both of these are why I went with a drastically inflated number of 1,500. Even in prehistoric time I can't imagine a tree above 1,000 feet. It wouldn't make sense biologically to grow that big.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Both of these are why I went with a drastically inflated number of 1,500. Even in prehistoric time I can't imagine a tree above 1,000 feet. It wouldn't make sense biologically to grow that big.

How were all the dinosaurs fed?...Of course we only see bones but they were huge plant eating animals in abundance...In the movies it shows them very healthy too, plump and not starving at all...There must be large enough plants in abundance to feed all of these large hungry animals, or else they would eat everything up and tip the balance of nature setting off a large extinction reaction for both animals and plants...

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How were all the dinosaurs fed?...Of course we only see bones but they were huge plant eating animals in abundance...In the movies it shows them very healthy too, plump and not starving at all...There must be large enough plants in abundance to feed all of these large hungry animals, or else they would eat everything up and tip the balance of nature setting off a large extinction reaction for both animals and plants...

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No dinosaurs were 1,000 feet tall. 300-600 feet trees would be enough to sustain them as well as browse on the ground for herbivores.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
300-600 feet trees would be enough to sustain them as well as browse on the ground for herbivores.

Impossible, the trees would be gone in no time, these beasts would not survive with that few trees...

The average elephant now weights about 6 tons whilst a brachiosaurus weighed about 50 tons in average and they were not the only large herbivores on the planet at the time...If elephants ate hundreds of pounds of plant material then these brachiosaurus ate thousands of pounds of plants...The plant life needed to be extremely large to support these massive animals and also be able to rejuvenate and grow more plant life to continue supporting them...

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